Questions about Max Max Beyond Thunderdome (for the few fans of the movie) - Blu-ray Forum

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2018, 09:39 AM

Hello,

Premise: to me, "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" is one of the most visionary movies of the Eighties and sure as hell a cinematic masterpiece. Don't compare it to "The Road Warrior", they are two different "worlds" and it would be unfair to do that.

Said that, my questions:

1- At the very beginning of the movie, the plane is approaching Max from the left side... but moments later, Max falls from his caravan on the left side, as the plane was instead coming from the RIGHT SIDE. Why the reversed shot?

2- In some scenes, it appears as the Train-Truck is going very fast, especially during the second half of the chase scene.

Right at the very beginning of the chase scene, few seconds before the "Plan? Ain't no plan!" speech (Pig Killer), we can see the Train-Truck is not going super fast, even if Max holds himself very strong to the train.

Maybe was its speed increasing time by time? What do you think about it?

Said that, after decades, I just realized that the Train-Truck was powered by methane and that's why the Guardsmen did not use the rifles or any other firearms, because they didn't want the Train-Truck to explode in millions of fragments with Master aboard.

3- In the sequence where a ragged barbarian, driving a bike/side-car, is approaching Ironbar Bassey (hanging from the pole)... the bike stumbles upon a bridge and the barbarian falls into the void... at the end of the sequence I can hear a "THUMB" sound. Do you think it was very high? I suppose the barbarian died.
Moments later, even Ironbar Bassey falls into the void, but he survived LOL

4- As you already know, the survivors reach Sydney. You can see that there is no more ocean/sea. It's my personal opinion that in either the Thunderdome world and the Fury Road world, they used experimental bombs/weapons that made all water evaporate from the surface of Earth. Nuclear weapons CANNOT achieve that. What's your feedback on this?

Thanks... hopefully someone will answer.

P-Rock · 06-30-2018, 09:42 AM

I think you are overthinking it.

Everyone knows Thunderdome had a very troubled production and is basically directed by two people. Miller did the action scenes and George Ogilvie the rest. They probably didn't even think about these small mistakes and just wanted to get the movie out. It's also a known fact that many directors leave mirrored shots in their movie on purpose.

In the end it's just entertainment.

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by P-Rock

I think you are overthinking it.

Everyone knows Thunderdome had a very troubled production and is basically directed by two people. Miller did the action scenes and Ogilvie the rest. They probably didn't even think about these small mistakes. It's also a known fact that many directors leave mirrored shots in their movie on purpose. In the end it's just entertainment.

No they co-directed the entire movie. It's a false "myth" that Miller only did the action sequences, and Miller debunked that in the past too.

I know it's just entertainment, but it's fun to overthink movies!

DR Herbert West · 06-30-2018, 09:56 AM

In FURY ROAD, Batman & Robin can be seen briefly trying to outrun Immortan Joe.

My question: Is this commentary on the post Apocalyptic world being no place for the heroes of the past, or am I missing something?

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2018, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

In FURY ROAD, Batman & Robin can be seen briefly trying to outrun Immortan Joe.

My question: Is this commentary on the post Apocalyptic world being no place for the heroes of the past, or am I missing something?

There's always place for the campy version of Batman.

When Keaton is not available, of course. He's the TRUE Batman.

DR Herbert West · 06-30-2018, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

There's always place for the campy version of Batman.

When Keaton is not available, of course. He's the TRUE Batman.

Keaton's always ready.

Star Lord · 06-30-2018, 10:56 AM

I need to rewatch Thunderdome. Watched it in 2015 before Fury Road released and thought it was very different from Road Warrior or the first Mad Max.

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Star Lord

I need to rewatch Thunderdome. Watched it in 2015 before Fury Road released and thought it was very different from Road Warrior or the first Mad Max.

All four Mad Max movies are different "cinematic worlds" from each other. There's no other saga out there like the Mad Max one.

UniSol GR77 · 07-02-2018, 01:31 PM

Such a fantastic interview. Miller on Thunderdome:

http://cinetropolis.net/archive-inte...d-thunderdome/

Star Lord · 07-02-2018, 02:44 PM

Roger Ebert gave 4/4 to Thunderdome! It's really fun to read old reviews.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/m...underdome-1985

UniSol GR77 · 07-02-2018, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Star Lord

Roger Ebert gave 4/4 to Thunderdome! It's really fun to read old reviews.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/m...underdome-1985

He was right, even.

levcore · 07-03-2018, 12:27 PM

Definitely over analysed some stuff there. Some of it is just production errors, other stuff is just there because the filmmakers thought it looked cool.

UniSol GR77 · 07-03-2018, 12:38 PM

Well, I checked the scenes again:

1- I found the "solution", so to speak. I think the AERIAL POINT OF VIEW at the very very beginning of the movie is NOT (supposed to be) the Transaviar, but the director's point of view on the Mad Max world. The Transaviar comes from the RIGHT SIDE, and Max falls on the LEFT SIDE of the caravan. So it make sense. The Transaviar comes from the opposite side of the "Aerial Shot" (which eventually represents the director and the movie themselves). That's pure genius.

2- When Max is approaching Pig Killer (while he's driving), you can see that the Train-Truck is already going much faster than seconds before.
The Train-Truck was going pretty slow at first. It took a while to reach top speed, which kind of makes sense. It probably accelerates slowly, but once it reaches top speed, it can retain its momentum and go pretty fast. Also, the Train-Truck loses a segment. Losing that weight may also help it move even faster later on.

3- Maybe the barbarian survived. But I suppose that he fell in an "horizontal" way, and maybe he broke his back when he hit the ground. Given the fact that the bridge looks high, I think he died.

06-30-2018, 09:39 AM	#1
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	Questions about Max Max Beyond Thunderdome (for the few fans of the movie) Hello, Premise: to me, "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" is one of the most visionary movies of the Eighties and sure as hell a cinematic masterpiece. Don't compare it to "The Road Warrior", they are two different "worlds" and it would be unfair to do that. Said that, my questions: 1- At the very beginning of the movie, the plane is approaching Max from the left side... but moments later, Max falls from his caravan on the left side, as the plane was instead coming from the RIGHT SIDE. Why the reversed shot? 2- In some scenes, it appears as the Train-Truck is going very fast, especially during the second half of the chase scene. Right at the very beginning of the chase scene, few seconds before the "Plan? Ain't no plan!" speech (Pig Killer), we can see the Train-Truck is not going super fast, even if Max holds himself very strong to the train. Maybe was its speed increasing time by time? What do you think about it? Said that, after decades, I just realized that the Train-Truck was powered by methane and that's why the Guardsmen did not use the rifles or any other firearms, because they didn't want the Train-Truck to explode in millions of fragments with Master aboard. 3- In the sequence where a ragged barbarian, driving a bike/side-car, is approaching Ironbar Bassey (hanging from the pole)... the bike stumbles upon a bridge and the barbarian falls into the void... at the end of the sequence I can hear a "THUMB" sound. Do you think it was very high? I suppose the barbarian died. Moments later, even Ironbar Bassey falls into the void, but he survived LOL 4- As you already know, the survivors reach Sydney. You can see that there is no more ocean/sea. It's my personal opinion that in either the Thunderdome world and the Fury Road world, they used experimental bombs/weapons that made all water evaporate from the surface of Earth. Nuclear weapons CANNOT achieve that. What's your feedback on this? Thanks... hopefully someone will answer. Last edited by UniSol GR77; 07-03-2018 at 12:34 PM.

06-30-2018, 09:42 AM	#2
P-Rock Banned Member since:Apr 2015 Blu-ray reviews:3	I think you are overthinking it. Everyone knows Thunderdome had a very troubled production and is basically directed by two people. Miller did the action scenes and George Ogilvie the rest. They probably didn't even think about these small mistakes and just wanted to get the movie out. It's also a known fact that many directors leave mirrored shots in their movie on purpose. In the end it's just entertainment. Last edited by P-Rock; 06-30-2018 at 09:48 AM.

06-30-2018, 09:56 AM	#4
DR Herbert West Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2018 Location:Arkham, MA Trading Score:8	In FURY ROAD, Batman & Robin can be seen briefly trying to outrun Immortan Joe. My question: Is this commentary on the post Apocalyptic world being no place for the heroes of the past, or am I missing something? Last edited by DR Herbert West; 06-30-2018 at 10:26 AM.

06-30-2018, 10:56 AM	#7
Star Lord Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2017 Location:Knowhere 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:177	I need to rewatch Thunderdome. Watched it in 2015 before Fury Road released and thought it was very different from Road Warrior or the first Mad Max.

07-02-2018, 01:31 PM	#9
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	Such a fantastic interview. Miller on Thunderdome: http://cinetropolis.net/archive-inte...d-thunderdome/

07-02-2018, 02:44 PM	#10
Star Lord Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2017 Location:Knowhere 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:177	Roger Ebert gave 4/4 to Thunderdome! It's really fun to read old reviews. https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/m...underdome-1985

07-03-2018, 12:27 PM	#12
levcore Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:2617 Trading Score:3	Definitely over analysed some stuff there. Some of it is just production errors, other stuff is just there because the filmmakers thought it looked cool.

07-03-2018, 12:38 PM	#13
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	Well, I checked the scenes again: 1- I found the "solution", so to speak. I think the AERIAL POINT OF VIEW at the very very beginning of the movie is NOT (supposed to be) the Transaviar, but the director's point of view on the Mad Max world. The Transaviar comes from the RIGHT SIDE, and Max falls on the LEFT SIDE of the caravan. So it make sense. The Transaviar comes from the opposite side of the "Aerial Shot" (which eventually represents the director and the movie themselves). That's pure genius. 2- When Max is approaching Pig Killer (while he's driving), you can see that the Train-Truck is already going much faster than seconds before. The Train-Truck was going pretty slow at first. It took a while to reach top speed, which kind of makes sense. It probably accelerates slowly, but once it reaches top speed, it can retain its momentum and go pretty fast. Also, the Train-Truck loses a segment. Losing that weight may also help it move even faster later on. 3- Maybe the barbarian survived. But I suppose that he fell in an "horizontal" way, and maybe he broke his back when he hit the ground. Given the fact that the bridge looks high, I think he died.

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