The Killers (1946-1964) - Blu-ray Forum

Oscar Rothman · 04-15-2015, 09:52 PM

http://www.criterion.com/boxsets/334...q=autocomplete

New high-definition digital restorations of both films, with uncompressed monaural soundtracks on the Blu-rays
Andrei Tarkovsky’s short film adaptation of Ernest Hemingway’s “The Killers,” made when he was a student in 1956
Interview from 2002 with writer Stuart M. Kaminsky about both films
Piece from 2002 in which actor Stacy Keach reads Hemingway’s short story
Screen Director’s Playhouse radio adaptation from 1949 of the 1946 film, starring Burt Lancaster and Shelley Winters
Interview from 2002 with actor Clu Gulager
Audio excerpt from director Don Siegel’s autobiography, A Siegel Film, read by actor and director Hampton Fancher
Trailers
PLUS: Essays by novelist Jonathan Lethem and critic Geoffrey O’Brien

The Great Owl · 04-15-2015, 10:30 PM

I cannot wait to upgrade my Criterion DVD set of these movies. The 1946 version is spectacular, and the 1964 remake is a lot of fun.

RobertLuketic · 04-15-2015, 10:33 PM

Yes, please! Great movies..thx CC!

filmmusic · 04-15-2015, 10:36 PM

The 1964 Killers doesn't seem to have kept the isolated score and effects track that was on the DVD, while the 1946 one has.
Do you think it could be an omission in the specs on the site?
I would really like to know, but don't know how I could get a definite reply from someone.
I assume Criterion doesn't reply to questions.

I really waited for Criterion's Bluray, since I'm a John Williams completist.

RiFiFi1955 · 04-15-2015, 10:48 PM

Once again I am out due to Arrow beating Criterion to the punch. These, Sullivan's, RiFiFi, not Arrow but The War Trilogy. I think Thief was the only one they were ahead on. Don't matter to me though because the foreign disc ate great.

MifuneFan · 04-15-2015, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filmmusic

The 1964 Killers doesn't seem to have kept the isolated score and effects track that was on the DVD, while the 1946 one has.
Do you think it could be an omission in the specs on the site?
I would really like to know, but don't know how I could get a definite reply from someone.
I assume Criterion doesn't reply to questions.

I really waited for Criterion's Bluray, since I'm a John Williams completist.

Could be due to space constraints, as everything is on one disc

filmmusic · 04-15-2015, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Could be due to space constraints, as everything is on one disc

And they chose that?
I don't think so. How much space holds an audio track?
Maybe it was a rights thing with John Williams?

Oscar Rothman · 04-16-2015, 12:22 AM

Fortunately..I'm Region Free. So if Criterion doesn't deliver, there's always Arrow!

javi92 · 04-16-2015, 12:33 AM

Not sure if the specs on this are final, but I really hoped Criterion would up the ante with special features due to the two Arrow releases being very solid.

RiFiFi1955 · 04-16-2015, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javi92

Not sure if the specs on this are final, but I really hoped Criterion would up the ante with special features due to the two Arrow releases being very solid.

Arrow is the new Criterion! Lol

Professor Echo · 04-16-2015, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar Rothman

Fortunately..I'm Region Free. So if Criterion doesn't deliver, there's always Arrow!

I'll opt for the Arrows as well, but may hang onto my SD of the Criterion for the extras, underwhelming though they may be.

Ray_Rogers · 04-16-2015, 01:46 AM

Hell with it. As I mentioned in the Criterion thread, I'll be owning the Arrow UK AND the Criterion releases. I figure might as well for my collection.

But I'll be favoring the Arrow UK to watch the movies though. I don't even own either the 1946 or the 1964 ones yet. Just prepping my collection already.

themp3000 · 04-16-2015, 01:59 AM

Contemplating this one. I like the price point and it has the short. It's the only "maybe" at this point, at least, on my list come the B&N July sale. I've heard excellent things about both versions, more so 46 than 64. The short is a nice addition.

nitin · 04-16-2015, 02:55 AM

If this is one disc, the Arrows would surely be the better option for PQ quality and choice (they have 2 AR versions for the '64 movie plus high bitrates on both the '64 and '46 movies)

Maggot · 04-16-2015, 03:14 AM

Region A here. Never seen the movie and I'd only be interested in the original. Perhaps You Tube has at least some clips and a trailer. The Carlotta French case cover is simply AWESOME though!

murphywmm · 04-16-2015, 04:26 AM

Yesssssssssssss

Day 1 purchase. I was thinking of getting the Arrow versions but I'm glad I waited.

dsman71 · 04-16-2015, 05:18 AM

Ill replace the Arrow release with this one, but it depends on the reviews of the Criterion version

Ray_Rogers · 04-16-2015, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsman71

Ill replace the Arrow release with this one, but it depends on the reviews of the Criterion version

The 1964 also has a 1.85:1 version on it from Arrow.

CBHampson · 04-16-2015, 05:24 AM

I've already got the Siegel release from Arrow. Will probably just snag Siodmak from them too.

Ray_Rogers · 04-16-2015, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBHampson

I've already got the Siegel release from Arrow. Will probably just snag Siodmak from them too.

Looks as though Criterion is having a few features from the Arrow releases but also exclusive ones too.

Criterion DVD which Practically mirrors the Blu-ray - http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=3472#1
Arrow UK (Siodmak 1946) - http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=29058#2
Arrow UK (Siegel 1964) - http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=26489

04-15-2015, 09:52 PM	#1
Oscar Rothman Banned Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Hawaii Blu-ray collection:412	The Killers (1946-1964) http://www.criterion.com/boxsets/334...q=autocomplete New high-definition digital restorations of both films, with uncompressed monaural soundtracks on the Blu-rays Andrei Tarkovsky’s short film adaptation of Ernest Hemingway’s “The Killers,” made when he was a student in 1956 Interview from 2002 with writer Stuart M. Kaminsky about both films Piece from 2002 in which actor Stacy Keach reads Hemingway’s short story Screen Director’s Playhouse radio adaptation from 1949 of the 1946 film, starring Burt Lancaster and Shelley Winters Interview from 2002 with actor Clu Gulager Audio excerpt from director Don Siegel’s autobiography, A Siegel Film, read by actor and director Hampton Fancher Trailers PLUS: Essays by novelist Jonathan Lethem and critic Geoffrey O’Brien Last edited by Scottie; 01-18-2017 at 10:45 PM.

04-15-2015, 10:30 PM	#2
The Great Owl Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Georgia 4K collection:921 Blu-ray collection:6031 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 255 Trading Score:6	I cannot wait to upgrade my Criterion DVD set of these movies. The 1946 version is spectacular, and the 1964 remake is a lot of fun.

04-15-2015, 10:33 PM	#3
RobertLuketic Banned Top contributor Member since:May 2014	Yes, please! Great movies..thx CC!

04-15-2015, 10:36 PM	#4
filmmusic Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Trading Score:5	The 1964 Killers doesn't seem to have kept the isolated score and effects track that was on the DVD, while the 1946 one has. Do you think it could be an omission in the specs on the site? I would really like to know, but don't know how I could get a definite reply from someone. I assume Criterion doesn't reply to questions. I really waited for Criterion's Bluray, since I'm a John Williams completist.

04-15-2015, 10:48 PM	#5
RiFiFi1955 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Albany, NY 4K collection:104 Blu-ray collection:1930	Once again I am out due to Arrow beating Criterion to the punch. These, Sullivan's, RiFiFi, not Arrow but The War Trilogy. I think Thief was the only one they were ahead on. Don't matter to me though because the foreign disc ate great.

04-16-2015, 12:22 AM	#8
Oscar Rothman Banned Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Hawaii Blu-ray collection:412	Fortunately..I'm Region Free. So if Criterion doesn't deliver, there's always Arrow!

04-16-2015, 12:33 AM	#9
javi92 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 4K collection:300 Blu-ray collection:4969 DVD collection:875	Not sure if the specs on this are final, but I really hoped Criterion would up the ante with special features due to the two Arrow releases being very solid.

04-16-2015, 01:46 AM	#12
Ray_Rogers Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Watsonville, California Trading Score:31	Hell with it. As I mentioned in the Criterion thread, I'll be owning the Arrow UK AND the Criterion releases. I figure might as well for my collection. But I'll be favoring the Arrow UK to watch the movies though. I don't even own either the 1946 or the 1964 ones yet. Just prepping my collection already.

04-16-2015, 01:59 AM	#13
themp3000 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 4K collection:382 Blu-ray collection:1816 DVD collection:107 Trading Score:103	Contemplating this one. I like the price point and it has the short. It's the only "maybe" at this point, at least, on my list come the B&N July sale. I've heard excellent things about both versions, more so 46 than 64. The short is a nice addition.

04-16-2015, 02:55 AM	#14
nitin Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Trading Score:9	If this is one disc, the Arrows would surely be the better option for PQ quality and choice (they have 2 AR versions for the '64 movie plus high bitrates on both the '64 and '46 movies)

04-16-2015, 03:14 AM	#15
Maggot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Location:United States 4K collection:638 Blu-ray collection:1340 DVD collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:81	Region A here. Never seen the movie and I'd only be interested in the original. Perhaps You Tube has at least some clips and a trailer. The Carlotta French case cover is simply AWESOME though!

04-16-2015, 04:26 AM	#16
murphywmm Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Edmonton, Canada 4K collection:368 Blu-ray collection:3717 DVD collection:63 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:2	Yesssssssssssss Day 1 purchase. I was thinking of getting the Arrow versions but I'm glad I waited.

04-16-2015, 05:18 AM	#17
dsman71 Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:569 Blu-ray collection:2844 DVD collection:665	Ill replace the Arrow release with this one, but it depends on the reviews of the Criterion version

04-16-2015, 05:24 AM	#19
CBHampson Expert Member Member since:Feb 2013 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:1974 DVD collection:139	I've already got the Siegel release from Arrow. Will probably just snag Siodmak from them too.

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