Does my tv do that?

[professorfate]

I purchased this TV a few weeks ago. I thought I did my homework and got the TV I wanted. One that would play true 1080p @ 60fps. I wish I had found this site earlyer. Now I find out that sales persons are saying their tv's are 1080p, but you guys say that doesn't neccesaraly mean they are. I was very spacific when I said to the sales person. "I want to be able to play my BD-disk and play station 3 in 1080P @ 60fps. And they said yes it will. If it doesn't, I don't know what Ill do.... Probly piss and moan on the internet for a couple more weeks and kick myself in the ass.
So here goes. Does my 61" samsung HLS6187WX/XAA DLP TV do everything I was hoping it would?

[Deciazulado]

check here (i haven't looked, I'm going out to buy Blu-rays but i'll beback later.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/D...Specifications

[JTK]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3108

Check this thread out.

[Deciazulado]

Well I looked around and didn't find anything specific saying "Accepts 1080p signals" but almost everywhere says it's 1080p, and a couple of "reviewers" on Amazon said it did accept it (of course exactly how do they know for sure is uncertain). Also this "review" http://www.htguys.com/archive/2006/June162006.html and one of the reviewers in Amazon say it accepts a 1080 1 to 1 pixel ratio on the PC input (usually a 60Hz) so at least it''s accepting 1080p there, so it could accept it from the HDMI too. What does your manual say? Maybe your dealer can let you try a BD player with the 1080p outputs and see if it works?
If it doesn't, doesn't the store have a return policy? Specially since they sold you something that wouldn't be what you asked specifically for and they told you it was? How about your credit card company? (That is, if it turned out it doesn't accept a 1080p input)

If it didn't, the TV is still gonna show you the images as 1080p progressive. It'll just have to deinterlace them from 1080i on its input. Then the important issue would be how well it deinterlaces the signal. In the best of cases, you'll recuperate the whole 1080p sharp image, in the worst of cases you'll get half the vertical resolution, depends on the quality of the deinterlacer (that is, if it only accepted 1080i), read How discernable is 1080p over 1080i ? for a little more info about those issues.

One thing is troubling me, reading the few pages I googled, I didn't see mention about the HDMI inputs being HDCP. Hopefully they are, otherwise there might be the case that the High Definition disc player downrezes the resolution to 540 x 960 because of copy protection.

Hope everything checks out!

[Josh]

Originally Posted by professorfate

So here goes. Does my 61" samsung HLS6187WX/XAA DLP TV do everything I was hoping it would?

I believe the DLPs use "wobble" to get 1080p60. What you actually are seeing is 1080i120 (1080 lines interlaced at 120 frames per second), which will look extremely similar to 1080p60. Its not the same, but very close.

[AV_Integrated]

YES - THE DISPLAY ACCEPTS 1080p ACCORDING TO THE OWNERS MANUAL

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...Eng[1].pdf

Page 129 of the manual lists accepted resolutions and includes component video and HDMI video 1080p.

FYI: This display is also uses a native 1920x1080 DLP chip, not last years model (or 2 years ago?) that utilized wobulation.

[Deciazulado]

That's great news for professorfate!

I assume it's HDCP too?
(I'm gonna dl the manual now)

Btw, all the Blu-ray.com crowd will be showing up at professorfate's house this Saturday to watch BDs then (Sunday, we'll be at Jim L's house)

[Josh]

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

DLP wobulation is not 120. Most DLP has actual mirror tilts that occur upwards of 256 times per 1/60th of a second. The two pixels each mirror handles aren refreshed far, FAR faster than 120hz within DLP. Throw in a 5x color wheel, and the speed jumps even higher.

That is my understanding at least. If you have a link that shows otherwise I would be interested. The speed of DLP MMD is so fast it is crazy and it produces a far smoother image if each mirror handles both pixels within the same 1/60th of a second gap. Otherwise, it would appear to flicker a little bit, which is not the case.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/bown/20...767810,00.html

But as this TV uses a 1080p array, then what I said is OBE.

[professorfate]

thanks you guys. that is great news. thank god. I didn't want to have to deal with returns and finding another tv. Specialy cause I really like this one.

[tron3]

Amazon reviews are based on the opinions of people who may or may not know that of which they speak. Take with a grain of salt and read between the lines.

If you really want to know what your tv does, read the manual, or contact the company support and ask them directly. Maybe you can return it if you site employee incompetence, or lying.

Keep in mind, no one in a retail store knows every detail about every product. You have to give up your personal life and sleep to be that good. Give a little leeway to the sales person, but "caveot emptor". Let the buyer beware.

[ProvenFlipper]

This TV does accept 1080p over component and HDMI. I setup a BD player on it at my store and it looks amazing... Stops people in their tracks all day long.