Best 65’ OLED - Blu-ray Forum

Drooch · 06-12-2021, 01:28 PM

Am I right in concluding that the Sony A90J is better than the LG C1, but that the upcoming Panasonic JZ2000 is likely to be even better so it’s worth waiting?

Thanks in advance.

punisher · 06-12-2021, 02:43 PM

That's something you have to see for yourself..and what your wallet tells you is it worth the extra cost. Remembering also that next year's tv's will be better than that.

PRO-630HD · 06-13-2021, 06:57 PM

Panasonic HZ2000

https://www.lesnumeriques.com/tv-tel...x-n164847.html

punisher · 06-21-2021, 10:25 PM

Sony A8H 65 inch is only 1598 today ..Amazon Prime day special.

kwazygloo · 06-28-2021, 06:34 PM

I just bought the Sony A8H, I absolutely love it. I honestly don't get the hate about lack of HDMI 2.1 etc. It is a superb television and I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed.

oddbox83 · 06-29-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kwazygloo

I just bought the Sony A8H, I absolutely love it. I honestly don't get the hate about lack of HDMI 2.1 etc. It is a superb television and I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed.

Well, if you're a gamer and want to use the latest VRR tech, it's a big issue.

Makes no difference to watching movies.

kwazygloo · 06-29-2021, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oddbox83

Well, if you're a gamer and want to use the latest VRR tech, it's a big issue.

Makes no difference to watching movies.

Honestly though, unless you are PC gaming, the PS5 isn't capable of fully utilizing HDMI 2.1 (very specific games do, sort of) so I am not worried about it, it will look look and play great.

GiuseppeM · 07-18-2021, 05:56 PM

Vincent Teoh today practically destroyed the new Panasonic JZ2000, that received one of the worst reviews ever for its brand.

Panson · 07-18-2021, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiuseppeM

Vincent Teoh today practically destroyed the new Panasonic JZ2000, that received one of the worst reviews ever for its brand.

Panasonic, what a tragic fall from grace.

Re Sony, they're not dependable for firmware updates at the moment.

Therefore, current OLED recommendation is LG G1 for its apparent overall capability.

Related:

https://www.t3.com/us/features/lg-g1-vs-sony-a90j

oddbox83 · 07-19-2021, 09:52 PM

The review has been taken down, what’s wrong with the new Panasonic?

teddyballgame · 07-20-2021, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by oddbox83

The review has been taken down, what’s wrong with the new Panasonic?

It's basically not as good as last year's HZ2000 for traditional TV/movies. Why exactly is anyones guess. Vincent thinks it's due to the mediatek chip that had to be implemented for hdmi 2.1 ports.

oddbox83 · 07-20-2021, 11:57 AM

I've tried to do some searching and from comments I've gathered it's near black and gradient handling that have taken a huge dive in order to force 2.1 gaming features onto a chip that isn't really suitable for it. So sounds like we're back to the sort of quality early generation OLEDs were giving.

So, if that is indeed what's going on (and I'll know when the video pops back up) sounds like Panasonic have gone from top of the current OLEDs to right at the bottom on their flagship in one fell swoop. Bizarre and very disappointing. I was merrily recommending Panasonic's as the best OLEDs as well as planning my next OLED purchase to be a Panasonic (whenever that would have been, can't justify replacing my B8 yet). Not any more.

Time will tell how their other 2021 models will compare, but for now it seems Sony and LG own the market again* (both having very well reviewed top-end 2021 models, and decent lower speced models)

*I know Phillips do OLED as well, but does anyone pay them much attention? I know I don't. I'm aware of them being there, but no one ever raves about them in preference to the others.

supersix4 · 07-20-2021, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oddbox83

I've tried to do some searching and from comments I've gathered it's near black and gradient handling that have taken a huge dive in order to force 2.1 gaming features onto a chip that isn't really suitable for it. So sounds like we're back to the sort of quality early generation OLEDs were giving.

So, if that is indeed what's going on (and I'll know when the video pops back up) sounds like Panasonic have gone from top of the current OLEDs to right at the bottom on their flagship in one fell swoop. Bizarre and very disappointing. I was merrily recommending Panasonic's as the best OLEDs as well as planning my next OLED purchase to be a Panasonic (whenever that would have been, can't justify replacing my B8 yet). Not any more.

Time will tell how their other 2021 models will compare, but for now it seems Sony and LG own the market again* (both having very well reviewed top-end 2021 models, and decent lower speced models)

*I know Phillips do OLED as well, but does anyone pay them much attention? I know I don't. I'm aware of them being there, but no one ever raves about them in preference to the others.

I replaced my B8 with the CX gaming is much better everything is much better and was able to sell my B8 to a friend for 1k so it offset lots of the spending. Personally I'd recommend going up to CX or current new model as you will find differences over time that are better. Can't comment on the Panasonic since we don't have those in the states. But I'm very content with the CX in every way as a meaningful upgrade from the b8/C8 series

Panson · 07-20-2021, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oddbox83

The review has been taken down, what’s wrong with the new Panasonic?

Apparently, Teoh's Panasonic review was taken down for YT copyright issues.

With some "adjustment", it could be back up soon. He's supplied alternate links for viewing that review.

Related:

https://twitter.com/vincent_teoh?lang=en

Droste · 12-09-2021, 05:52 AM

I bought the hz2000 Panasonic 65 inch instead of the new jz2000
I was very lucky to found one this late.

manwithnoname64 · 12-10-2021, 02:16 PM

I bought the A90J as my primary use is movies and gaming is a distant secondary use. I have no regrets.

06-12-2021, 01:28 PM	#1
Drooch Banned Member since:Mar 2011	Best 65’ OLED Am I right in concluding that the Sony A90J is better than the LG C1, but that the upcoming Panasonic JZ2000 is likely to be even better so it’s worth waiting? Thanks in advance.

06-12-2021, 02:43 PM	#2
punisher Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2010 Location:MSG CHASE BRIDGE Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:222	That's something you have to see for yourself..and what your wallet tells you is it worth the extra cost. Remembering also that next year's tv's will be better than that.

06-13-2021, 06:57 PM	#3
PRO-630HD Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Panasonic HZ2000 https://www.lesnumeriques.com/tv-tel...x-n164847.html

06-21-2021, 10:25 PM	#4
punisher Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2010 Location:MSG CHASE BRIDGE Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:222	Sony A8H 65 inch is only 1598 today ..Amazon Prime day special.

06-28-2021, 06:34 PM	#5
kwazygloo Member Member since:Jun 2021 4K collection:109 Blu-ray collection:116 Trading Score:1	I just bought the Sony A8H, I absolutely love it. I honestly don't get the hate about lack of HDMI 2.1 etc. It is a superb television and I cannot imagine anyone being disappointed.

07-18-2021, 05:56 PM	#8
GiuseppeM Member Member since:Aug 2018	Vincent Teoh today practically destroyed the new Panasonic JZ2000, that received one of the worst reviews ever for its brand.

07-19-2021, 09:52 PM	#10
oddbox83 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2013 Location:UK	The review has been taken down, what’s wrong with the new Panasonic?

07-20-2021, 11:57 AM	#12
oddbox83 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2013 Location:UK	I've tried to do some searching and from comments I've gathered it's near black and gradient handling that have taken a huge dive in order to force 2.1 gaming features onto a chip that isn't really suitable for it. So sounds like we're back to the sort of quality early generation OLEDs were giving. So, if that is indeed what's going on (and I'll know when the video pops back up) sounds like Panasonic have gone from top of the current OLEDs to right at the bottom on their flagship in one fell swoop. Bizarre and very disappointing. I was merrily recommending Panasonic's as the best OLEDs as well as planning my next OLED purchase to be a Panasonic (whenever that would have been, can't justify replacing my B8 yet). Not any more. Time will tell how their other 2021 models will compare, but for now it seems Sony and LG own the market again* (both having very well reviewed top-end 2021 models, and decent lower speced models) I know Phillips do OLED as well, but does anyone pay them much attention? I know I don't. I'm aware of them being there, but no one ever* raves about them in preference to the others.

12-09-2021, 05:52 AM	#15
Droste Member Member since:Apr 2020 Location:The Netherlands 4K collection:408 Blu-ray collection:732	I bought the hz2000 Panasonic 65 inch instead of the new jz2000 I was very lucky to found one this late.

12-10-2021, 02:16 PM	#16
manwithnoname64 Senior Member Member since:May 2021 4K collection:996 Blu-ray collection:1000 Trading Score:4	I bought the A90J as my primary use is movies and gaming is a distant secondary use. I have no regrets.

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