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Old 11-08-2024, 07:21 AM   #1
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Germany Caligula: The Ultimate Cut 4K UHD (1979/2023) Tiberius Film

Tiberius Film are releasing Caligula: The Ultimate Cut in a 4-Disc (UHD+3×BD) Limited Edition mediabook February 2025. The original unrated version of the film is included on Blu-ray.

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40 years after the first release of one of the most controversial films of all time, Penthouse Films International presents a completely new version. An unprecedented amount of never-before-seen footage makes the still-shocking cult classic appear in a new light. The notoriously decadent and scandalous film is finally presented as it should always be seen.

After the murder of Emperor Tiberius, Caligula, who is striving for power, is appointed the new Emperor. With the help of his sister Drusilla and his wife Caesonia, he begins to disintegrate the Roman Empire from within. Decadence and debauchery now prevail at the Imperial Court. When the almost insane Caligula appoints himself a god, resistance finally forms.

Technical specifications:
Language / sound: German DTS-HD MA 5.1, English DTS-HD MA 5.1
Image format: 2,00:1 (2160p/24 4K), 2.00:1 (1080p/24 HD), 1.85:1 (1080p/24 HD)
Subtitle: German.
Running time: 178 minutes

Bonus material:
- The World of Caligula - A video featurette with film scholar Prof. Dr. Marcus Stiglegger (exclusive)
- Audio commentary with Caligula expert Alexander Tuschinski (exclusive)
- Audio commentary with film journalists Christoph N. Kellerbach and Kevin Zindler (exclusive)
- German cinema trailer for Caligula (Original VHS Version and HD re-edit)
- German cinema trailer for Tinto Brass' Salon Kitty in HD
- Behind the Scenes
- Behind the scenes of the production (about 80 min)
- North American Bonus Footage
- Cut and alternative scenes of the US version (about 31 min)
- US cinema trailer (1: 45 min) | US teaser trailer (1: 07 min) | US R-Rated Trailer (1:00 min)
- Hundreds of Behind the Scenes photos of the production in 16 picture galleries
- The Making of Caligula Documentary (62 min) & Featurette (10 min)
- John Steiner: My Holiday in Rome - Featurette (24 min)
- Caligulas Pet: In conversation with Lori Wagner - Featurette (26 min)
- Tinto Brass: The Orgy of Power - Featurette (35 min)
- BD-Rom features with Penthouse articles - Original screenplay - Press releases - Biographies and much more.
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Old 11-08-2024, 07:50 AM   #2
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According to the specs and listed special features on their homepage, I am going to speculate, that the set will feature the following:

1x UHD of the Ultimate Cut (new disc)
1x BD of the Ultimate Cut (new disc)
1x BD of the Original Uncut Theatrical Cut (probably a re-pressing of the old disc from 2018)
1x BD with additional special features (probably a re-pressing of the old disc from 2018)

If this happens to be true, it would mean, that the disc with the Preview Cut (along with some special features like audio commentaries by McDowell and Volkman and deleted scenes) is missing.
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Old 11-08-2024, 08:04 AM   #3
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1x UHD of the Ultimate Cut (new disc)
1x BD of the Ultimate Cut (new disc)
1x BD of the Original Uncut Theatrical Cut (probably a re-pressing of the old disc from 2018)
1x BD with additional special features (probably a re-pressing of the old disc from 2018)
This is about what I expect, too, although I would hope that the BD of the uncut original isn't just a repressing of the 2018 release. I've made Tiberius aware of the editorial shortcomings of the existing HD master and they said they'd look into it. I'm gonna e-mail them again over the weekend asking about things like the faulty 5.1 track on the original, as well as some clarity on which cuts are actually being included.

EDIT: Found an article on Film Diest and at the very end, it says: "On February 6, 2025, "Caligula - The Ultimate Cut" will also be released by Tiberius as a Mediabook edition. It includes a 4K UHD and Blu-ray, the original "Caligula" version from 1979 on Blu-ray, as well as a DVD with bonus material."

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This is about what I expect, too, although I would hope that the BD of the uncut original isn't just a repressing of the 2018 release. I've made Tiberius aware of the editorial shortcomings of the existing HD master and they said they'd look into it. I'm gonna e-mail them again over the weekend asking about things like the faulty 5.1 track on the original, as well as some clarity on which cuts are actually being included.

EDIT: Found an article on Film Diest and at the very end, it says: "On February 6, 2025, "Caligula - The Ultimate Cut" will also be released by Tiberius as a Mediabook edition. It includes a 4K UHD and Blu-ray, the original "Caligula" version from 1979 on Blu-ray, as well as a DVD with bonus material."
Yeah I doubt they will redo the uncut disc. If they were that bothered they would have after it was originally released
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May have to get the German release, assume it's FSK18 though so harder to import from ze germans.
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@Dallywhitty:

This is great news! The bonus material is what I expected. I don't believe in a revision of the unrated version, but I still want the set because of the mediabook and the new German dubbing.

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This is about what I expect, too, although I would hope that the BD of the uncut original isn't just a repressing of the 2018 release. I've made Tiberius aware of the editorial shortcomings of the existing HD master and they said they'd look into it. I'm gonna e-mail them again over the weekend asking about things like the faulty 5.1 track on the original, as well as some clarity on which cuts are actually being included.

EDIT: Found an article on Film Diest and at the very end, it says: "On February 6, 2025, "Caligula - The Ultimate Cut" will also be released by Tiberius as a Mediabook edition. It includes a 4K UHD and Blu-ray, the original "Caligula" version from 1979 on Blu-ray, as well as a DVD with bonus material."
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May have to get the German release, assume it's FSK18 though so harder to import from ze germans.
Only thing you will gain over umbrella is different extras
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Only thing you will gain over umbrella is different extras
Tiberius won't have borked audio and a replacement program to worry about though
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Tiberius won't have borked audio and a replacement program to worry about though
We'll it's not out until February by then all new orders and replacements for umbrella will be done
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It doesn't look bad! Well, the bonus material doesn't offer much new, but I'm pleased that it will be a mediabook.
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No original version on 4K? Effectively a useless disc for those of us who own the Umbrella disc, unless they give it substantially superior encoding.
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No original version on 4K? Effectively a useless disc for those of us who own the Umbrella disc, unless they give it substantially superior encoding.
Or fix the sound on the unrated cut if Umbrella doesn't
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FYI: The German UHD has been announced for February 2025 and is available to pre-order via Tiberius Film's site.
Ha - I like that they've listed Nergovan as the director of the Ultimate Cut! (If only Criterion had taken a similar approach to Pat Garrett we might have avoided a lot of back and forth...)

Lacking Io Caligula, but cheaper than the Umbrella. If they can fix the credits + audio on the theatrical and offer stronger encoding than the Umbrella then this would be the one to beat. Still, it's a shame we're not getting a UHD of the original - a feature of all these revisionist-type projects seems to be that the original cut gets neglected.

Edit: Looking at ordering this, but Tiberius' website wants to double-charge on the VAT. It adds 20% UK VAT to the order (correctly) - but does so without first removing the German sales tax. If you're in touch with Tiberius maybe you could point this out to them?

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Or fix the sound on the unrated cut if Umbrella doesn't
A fair point. Hopefully, it’s not going to be one of these “sold out before street date” titles that are beginning to define our hobby these days because I’m definitely going to need verification from two or three buyers, who have it in hand, of legitimate improvements to the TC before I buy this for a third time.
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Looking at ordering this, but Tiberius' website wants to double-charge on the VAT. It adds 20% UK VAT to the order (correctly) - but does so without first removing the German sales tax. If you're in touch with Tiberius maybe you could point this out to them?
Will do!
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I would buy this if only for Tsuchinski's commentary, if only I could understand German. I imagine it won't be for the Ultimate Cut, correct?
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I would buy this if only for Tsuchinski's commentary, if only I could understand German. I imagine it won't be for the Ultimate Cut, correct?
Yeah, I imagine it's the same commentary that was recorded for the 2018 BD. It doesn't appear that any of the supplements are new, which is disappointing.

It hadn't even occurred to me the commentary might be in German. Our man Ron would know if it's English or German, I think he's said he'd listened to it before.
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Ha - I like that they've listed Nergovan as the director of the Ultimate Cut!
And when you rip the CD soundtrack using Windows Media Player, it lists him as the score’s composer, too.
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No original version on 4K? Effectively a useless disc for those of us who own the Umbrella disc, unless they give it substantially superior encoding.
It would be nice to know more about the source of the scan used on the FR/DE/AU discs of the theatrical cut. If there could be a decent 4k disc created from it. I'll be upgrading my Umbrella set if anyone releases the theatrical cut with better audio (and ideally include the mono). Considering Tiberius could potentially be the source of the botched 5.1 I'm gonna wait for confirmation or first hand impressions before ordering their release.
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The following special features are only available in German:

- The World of Caligula - A video featurette with film scholar Prof. Dr. Marcus Stiglegger (exclusive)
- Audio commentary with Caligula expert Alexander Tuschinski (exclusive)
- Audio commentary with film journalists Christoph N. Kellerbach and Kevin Zindler (exclusive)
- German cinema trailer for Caligula (Original VHS Version and HD re-edit)
- German cinema trailer for Tinto Brass' Salon Kitty in HD

The old disc featured no English subtitles for those. Would not bet that they haved added subtitles by now. But I am still a bit confused, if they will re-author the discs and maybe fix/add something. It is pretty strange, that Tiberius confirmed a bonus dvd. The old release from 2018 had most of the special features on a bonus blu-ray.

(The 2018 release also featured a German audio commentary by Alexander Tuschinski for the preview cut. He provided two audio commentaries for the release.)
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