French Forced Subtitles Master List

[Presence]

[REC] 2 (Wild Side Video)
36th Chamber of Shaolin Trilogy (Wild Side)
All the Boys Love Mandy Lane (Wild Side Video)
Apocalypse Now (Pathé)
Artist, the (Warner)
Awake (Wild Side Video)
Bagdad Cafe (StudioCanal)
Bandidas (EuropaCorp)
Barber, The (AKA The Man Who Wasn't There, BAC Films)
Broken Flowers (BAC Films)
Brothers (Wild Side Video)
Burn After Reading (Studio Canal)
Casino (TF1 Video)
the Constant Gardener (Studio Canal)
Cove, The (Pathé)
Crank/Hypertension (TF1 Video)
Dead Ringers (Aventi)
Departed, the (TF1 Video)
DOA: Dead or Alive (TF1 Video)
Dream Home (Universal)
Drive (steelbook) (Wild Side Video)
El Orfanato (Wild Side Video)
Enter the Void (Wild Side Video)
Exodus (Opening Distribution)
Green Zone, the (Studio Canal)
I Spit On Your Grave (TF1 Video)
Jackie Brown (TF1 Video)
Kaboom (Wild Side Video)
King of the Hill (Wild Side Video)
Largo Winch (Wild Side Video)
Leopard, the (Pathe)
Lost In Translation (Pathe Distribution)
Loved Ones, the (ARP/Universal)
Marvel Pack (Seven7)
Match Point (steelbook) (TF1 Video)
Melancholia (Potemkine)
Midnight In Paris (TF1)
Mission To Mars (StudioCanal)
Mr. Nobody (Fox Pathe Europa)
My Blueberry Nights (Studio Canal)
Night Porter, the (Wild Side Video)
Oldboy (Wild Side Video)
Papillon (TF1 Video)
Pirates (Roman Polanski, TF1/Quinta Communications)
Pork Chop Hill (Filmmedia)
Pulp Fiction (TF1 Video)
Sailor and Lulu (original release, BAC Films)
Scoop (TF1 Video)
Sin City (Wild Side Video)
Slumdog Millionaire (Pathe)
Sofia Coppola Boxset (all 4 movies) (Pathé)
Spy Game (Metropolitan)
Suspiria (Wild Side Video)
Taken (EuropaCorp)
Talented Mr. Ripley, the (BAC Films)
Tenebre (Wild Side Video)
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Studio Canal)
Traffic (Studio Canal)
Two Lovers (Wild Side Video)
Vengeance (TF1)
Warrior (Metropolitan)
We Own the Night (Wild Side Video)
Yellow Sea, the (Murderer, the) (Wild Side)
You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger (Warner)
Zombie (Dawn of the Dead) (Aventi)

[The Driver]

Pirates (Roman Polanski, TF1/Quinta Communications)
Broken Flowers (BAC Films)
Bagdad Cafe (StudioCanal)
Barber, The (AKA The Man Who Wasn't There, BAC Films)
Sailor and Lulu (original release, BAC Films)

Small annonaynce and never a deal-breaker as I'll remove the subs with AnyDVD or rip the disc. Been doing this since 1997 (DVDShrink still removes forced DVD subs today) as many DVDs have this 'feature'.

I know the Oppo and some Philips allow the -almost- removal of the subs from the frame but I'm not aware of many machines (some Panasonics I think) that free this prohibition (like removing forced subtitles).

[Presence]

Originally Posted by The Driver

Pirates (Roman Polanski, TF1/Quinta Communications)
Broken Flowers (BAC Films)
Bagdad Cafe (StudioCanal)
Barber, The (AKA The Man Who Wasn't There, BAC Films)
Sailor and Lulu (original release, BAC Films)

Small annonaynce and never a deal-breaker as I'll remove the subs with AnyDVD or rip the disc. Been doing this since 1997 (DVDShrink still removes forced DVD subs today) as many DVDs have this 'feature'.

I know the Oppo and some Philips allow the -almost- removal of the subs from the frame but I'm not aware of many machines (some Panasonics I think) that free this prohibition (like removing forced subtitles).

Updated.

I wonder why this kind of information isn't on movie overview pages? Is there someway to edit?

[DarknessBDJM]

I'd like to see a note on each whether they are burnt in subs or not. Certain software can stop non-burnt in forced subs.

[Presence]

Originally Posted by DarknessBDJM

I'd like to see a note on each whether they are burnt in subs or not. Certain software can stop non-burnt in forced subs.

If someone has that info I will surely add it.

[Presence]

Updated.

[RDA]

Great idea!

Can we have two separate lists? One for forced subtitles and one for burnt in subtitles?

Also, I'm not sure whether it is worth differentiating releases where subtitles are forced for the English audio track only. For example, 'Match Point' (https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Match...-Blu-ray/4155/) has English audio and forced French subtitles, as well as a French audio track with no subtitles. Or at least that's my memory of the release as I've sold it now.

[toddly6666]

Mr. Nobody


Aren't The Virgin Suicides and Marie Antoinette forced subbed also?

[rdodolak]

Mission to Mars (Studio Canal)

[Presence]

Originally Posted by RDA

Great idea!

Can we have two separate lists? One for forced subtitles and one for burnt in subtitles?

Also, I'm not sure whether it is worth differentiating releases where subtitles are forced for the English audio track only. For example, 'Match Point' (https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Match...-Blu-ray/4155/) has English audio and forced French subtitles, as well as a French audio track with no subtitles. Or at least that's my memory of the release as I've sold it now.

If someone has that information I will edit the OP to reflect that.

And yes, I meant the thread to be for English audio w/ forced French subs.

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Mr. Nobody


Aren't The Virgin Suicides and Marie Antoinette forced subbed also?

For Mr. Nobody, which release is it? Or both?

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Mission to Mars (Studio Canal)

Added.

[knifethrower]

Originally Posted by pmontreux

For Mr. Nobody, which release is it? Or both?

Both, the BD discs are identical for both releases.

[The Driver]

Mind 'burnt' or 'burned' in is really where they've taken a transfer from film to DVD/Blu-ray and the subtitles are part of the image (lots of old crappy Region 1 DVDs were like this) -forced can be removed. Where they've graphically applied subtitles to a Blu-ray they can't be removed obviously (they are now part of the picture/encode).

I've not seen any French discs with that but there's 2-3 UK ones (which aught not to matter to most people in the UK obviously as it's foreign language tracks).

[Presence]

Originally Posted by The Driver

Mind 'burnt' or 'burned' in is really where they've taken a transfer from film to DVD/Blu-ray and the subtitles are part of the image (lots of old crappy Region 1 DVDs were like this) -forced can be removed. Where they've graphically applied subtitles to a Blu-ray they can't be removed obviously (they are now part of the picture/encode).

I've not seen any French discs with that but there's 2-3 UK ones (which aught not to matter to most people in the UK obviously as it's foreign language tracks).

Ah, I wasn't sure what the term meant before but now it makes perfect sense.

[Al_The_Strange]

I ran across two that had forced subs:

"DOA: Dead or Alive"
"Pulp Fiction"

I don't recall either one of them being "burnt" into the image, but I definitely couldn't turn them off when set to English.

[Presence]

Originally Posted by Al_The_Strange

I ran across two that had forced subs:

"DOA: Dead or Alive"
"Pulp Fiction"

I don't recall either one of them being "burnt" into the image, but I definitely couldn't turn them off when set to English.

Updated.

I see TF1 with a few entries so far, do they generally have hard coded subs on English audio?

[deltasun]

Bandidas (EuropaCorp)
The Constant Gardener (Studio Canal)
The Departed (TF1)
I Spit on Your Grave (original & remake) (TF1)
Lost in Translation (Pathe)
Oldboy (Wild Side)
The Orphanage (Wild Side)
[REC] (Wild Side)
Taken (EuropaCorp)
The Talented Mr. Ripley (Bac Video)
Terminator 2 (Studio Canal)

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by pmontreux

I see TF1 with a few entries so far, do they generally have hard coded subs on English audio?

Sure looks that way. I know most of them are region-B locked, so they are very English unfriendly.

[Presence]

Originally Posted by deltasun

Bandidas (EuropaCorp)
The Constant Gardener (Studio Canal)
The Departed (TF1)
I Spit on Your Grave (original & remake) (TF1)
Lost in Translation (Pathe)
Oldboy (Wild Side)
The Orphanage (Wild Side)
[REC] (Wild Side)
Taken (EuropaCorp)
The Talented Mr. Ripley (Bac Video)
Terminator 2 (Studio Canal)

[REC] is confirmed? It's not out for another two days.

Also, ahhh, alphabetical. A gentleman after my own heart!

[deltasun]

Originally Posted by pmontreux

[REC] is confirmed? It's not out for another two days.

Also, ahhh, alphabetical. A gentleman after my own heart!

I meant [REC] 2, sorry. I'll even put the "The's" or "A's" in the end. Once I get home, I have a few more listed that I can add.

[pro-bassoonist]

Fantastic thread, pmontreux

Keep up the good work....

Pro-B