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Old 01-03-2023, 11:29 AM   #1
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Old 01-03-2023, 12:02 PM   #2
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Nice, can skip Severin uhd
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Plot twist.
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Old 01-03-2023, 01:25 PM   #5
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Oh boy, potential FiM encode. Mmmmmm
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Old 01-03-2023, 03:15 PM   #6
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I'm going to guess won't have English subs for the Italian audio though, making this a deal breaker for me.
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I'm going to guess won't have English subs for the Italian audio though, making this a deal breaker for me.
A very good point. I'm happy with the Severin disc right now, and of course always open to other releases, but that issue could be four legit flies in the ointment...
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I could be vaguely interested only if it’s confirm it doesn’t have any kind of forced subs and it has the original italian opening and end credits (seems to remember Severin only has english ones). Severin encoding looks great to me from caps.
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I could be vaguely interested only if it’s confirm it doesn’t have any kind of forced subs and it has the original italian opening and end credits (seems to remember Severin only has english ones). Severin encoding looks great to me from caps.
The one thing I don't like about the Severin is that the Italian opening/closing credits are missing on the Italian version. They could have provide both Italian and English versions viewable option via seamless branching, like Arrow do.
I prefer watch Italian credits and text whenever I watch it in Italian.
The killer's threatening letters in Italian are damn charming! (È stato facile! / Adesso è finita. Tocca a te!)
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Old 01-05-2023, 09:09 AM   #10
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Carlotta don't seem to have a solid, singular policy with regard to caps. Some French subs are optional for the purposes of translation, whilst others are for the hearing-impaired.

English subs seem to be the one constant: namely, they don't have them at all.

This would be rather inconvenient for the denouement, as there's a good chance that the French version will go for the "Director's Cut" only, leaving chunks of expository material in Italian. This happened on all previous European blu-ray releases of it - it was always in the back of my mind that the Italian dialogue was coming up when watching the German disc.

I watched my 4K copy last night, and am very happy with it. I hope that Severin do eventually release a no-frills edition of it so that everyone else who weren't able to pick it up on the Black Friday scramble can get hold of it, too.
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The one thing I don't like about the Severin is that the Italian opening/closing credits are missing on the Italian version. They could have provide both Italian and English versions viewable option via seamless branching, like Arrow do.
I prefer watch Italian credits and text whenever I watch it in Italian.
The killer's threatening letters in Italian are damn charming! (È stato facile! / Adesso è finita. Tocca a te!)
I noticed the Italian titles and credits were on the Shameless and kind of wish I could have them on the Severin as an option. I weighed the idea of keeping it around but the quality difference is large between the two releases. It made me want to check some of the Arrow 4Ks like Bird and Cat - did they switch language of titles depending on which version was played?
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I noticed the Italian titles and credits were on the Shameless and kind of wish I could have them on the Severin as an option. I weighed the idea of keeping it around but the quality difference is large between the two releases. It made me want to check some of the Arrow 4Ks like Bird and Cat - did they switch language of titles depending on which version was played?
Yes, which is why you can't change the language on the fly on those Arrow discs*, since playing in either English or Italian trips on the seamless branching.

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*Excepting DEEP RED and PHENOMENA, where the alternate cuts are on separate discs.

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Yes, which is why you can't change the language on the fly on those Arrow discs*, since playing in either English or Italian trips on the seamless branching.

Chris

*Excepting DEEP RED and PHENOMENA, where the alternate cuts are on separate discs.
Thanks, you saved me some time here!


I am hoping that if France is getting a release, perhaps UK will at some point as well. Going by the lack of English subs on the Koch edition, I feel like it needs to be a UK release if I want it to be English friendly.
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Thanks, you saved me some time here!


I am hoping that if France is getting a release, perhaps UK will at some point as well. Going by the lack of English subs on the Koch edition, I feel like it needs to be a UK release if I want it to be English friendly.

Frankly, I don't expect much from the UK in this case, mainly thanks to Shameless clowns. Considering that they recently released the absolutely useless Argento box set via Cult Films, doesn't seem like it's gonna happen soon... And of course things can change.

I personally wish Camera Obscura would tackle this. If they do, I'll double-dip for it in a heartbeat!
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That cover is certainly..... a choice, that's for sure.
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That cover sorta reminds me of the movie Delirium (1987)
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Eyeball on the spine? How very Wicked-Vision of Carlotta.
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So, has anyone got this one yet? I'm dying to see how it compares to Severin's.
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