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Old 02-05-2008, 03:47 AM   #1
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Can anyone fill me in or link me to a comparison between lcd and dlp technology? I have just noticed dlp is sooo much cheaper. I am in love with lcd because the bb guys say plasma is not good for my blu-ray and video gaming habits. Who would buy a plasma then? lol
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:56 AM   #2
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DLP is still a rear projection technology, where most LCD's now are flat panel LCD's . . . so that whole screen is an LCD panel, where the LCD rear projo's were a smaller amount of LCD material projected onto the screen. The more LCD material, the more money it's going to cost.

It used to be that LCD's suffered from blurring with fast moving scenes . . . to my knowledge this has been greatly reduced, as long as you're getting a decent one. Some people (like me) can see the "Rainbow effect" on DLP TV's. This has to do with the spinning color wheel portion of the technology. Some newer DLP's no longer have this, thus eliminating the Rainbow issue.

If you get a good DLP, to me, there's no point in getting an LCD (or plasma, for that matter, unless the money isn't really an issue) unless you want to hang it. A quality, calibrated DLP set is capable of amazing image quality. The newer DLP's are starting to come with LED light sources, eliminating the bulb from the equation. This way you don't have to worry about the bulb fading, there's virtually no warm up period, and it outputs little to no heat.

Sony's SXRD line, which they are no longer going to be making, are LCOS (liquid crystal on silicone). It's a rear projection technology like DLP, but it uses LCD panels instead of the DLP mirror/light processing. Great TV's . . . in retrospect, I would probably get one of these instead of what I have, but I love my DLP.

Plasmas, if the difference in price isn't an issue, are great sets. The image burn-in issue isn't nearly as much of an issue as it was . . . Best Buy doesn't update their training very often, if ever. Personally, for the money I would have to spend to get one of the few that I would buy (Panasonic/Pioneer) and the size I want, the difference in quality is hardly worth the added cost.

JMO, and I could be wrong on some things, so anybody feel free to correct me.

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Old 02-05-2008, 04:14 AM   #3
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Can anyone fill me in or link me to a comparison between lcd and dlp technology? I have just noticed dlp is sooo much cheaper. I am in love with lcd because the bb guys say plasma is not good for my blu-ray and video gaming habits. Who would buy a plasma then? lol
There are many articles available on the Web that compare the three technologies (Plasma, LCD, DLP). Generally speaking, DLP TVs are not available in small sizes. The reason they are cheaper is because they are mostly rear projection TVs and cannot be installed on the wall. For example, I bought a top of the line Mitsubishi 73", Diamond Series for around $3,500 and I got a PS3 for free. The picture quality is stunning. LCD TVs are available in small sizes. However, a 70" flat LCD TV can cost in excess of $30,000. Read the following article on the advantages and distavantages of Plasma, LCD, and DLP.

http://www.brianshoff.com/tech/tv-te...versus-dlp.htm

If the link does not work, copy it and paste it into your browser.

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Old 02-05-2008, 05:42 PM   #4
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Can anyone fill me in or link me to a comparison between lcd and dlp technology? I have just noticed dlp is sooo much cheaper. I am in love with lcd because the bb guys say plasma is not good for my blu-ray and video gaming habits. Who would buy a plasma then? lol
The Best Buy guy is an idiot!

Any of the 3 technologes will work fine with the X-Box 360, or Blu-Ray.

LCD looks better in bright light, and it's the lightest of the 3. LCD also has the most crisp text of the three. You can get an LCD in almost any size from 7" to 52" (do they have 58" LCD yet?)

Plasma has the blackest blacks, and very deep colors but it's heavy. Text looks good, but up close I think LCD looks better for surfing the web or world processing. They are only available in sizes from about 37" to 58". Yes I know Panasonic has a 150" plasma, and someone else had a 108" plasma first but unless you building a cruise ship with an outdoor theater these $100,000+ monitors are probibly not an option.

DLP is used in projectors, either you project the image onto your own screen or buy a TV that prjects the image onto the screen from the back. My understanding is they do an amazing job at projecting nature colors like skin tones, perhaps better then LCD or Plasma. In a true home theater this is the way to go. They will look best in a dark room. Samsung (I think it's samsung) is already selling DLP TVs that are 3D ready! In the near future 3D glasses will be available and hopefully the movies which have been released in 3D like Beowolf, Meet the robinsons, Nightmare before Christmas, Chicken Little, Monster House & the new Hanna Montanna concert will be release on a 3D BD.

The new Digital movie theaters (the ones that do Disney Digital 3D) use a very high end DLP projector. The resolution is more than 1920 X 1080p though.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:48 PM   #5
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The Best Buy guy is an idiot!

Any of the 3 technologes will work fine with the X-Box 360, or Blu-Ray.
Not completely. Plasmas have the potential for "Image Burn" with video games, sports (with the score/clock in the same spot all the time), and your cable providers menu screen.

I hear they are working on perfecting Plasmas that are image burn resistant. Samsung has one out I think already.

I have a rear-projection DLP 61" and absolutely love it. Even with a huge window right next to it the image never fades. Can view it from almost any angle and the colors are so rich it's sick. If you're not trying to save space and/or money, go rear DLP, you won't be disappointed.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:53 AM   #6
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Some people (like me) can see the "Rainbow effect" on DLP TV's. This has to do with the spinning color wheel portion of the technology. Some newer DLP's no longer have this, thus eliminating the Rainbow issue.
While the bulk of the "rainbow-effect" is caused by the color wheel, removing the color wheel (i.e. 3-chip systems) or having a high-speed/multi-segment wheel doesn't always solve the problem for all people.

This is because how how DMDs (the chips used in DLP technology) works when it needs to vary the intensity of the light.

But its a very small segment of people who have a high enough sensitivity to notice it or get headaches from it.

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Not completely. Plasmas have the potential for "Image Burn" with video games, sports (with the score/clock in the same spot all the time), and your cable providers menu screen.

I hear they are working on perfecting Plasmas that are image burn resistant. Samsung has one out I think already.
There are already many Plasmas on the market that have measures that reduce the chances of burn-in, most of these employ a system that shifts the picture.

You'd have to really leave a picture on the screen a pretty long time and/or have your brightness cranked up real high to get a burn-in for the average user.
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:09 AM   #7
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Can anyone fill me in or link me to a comparison between lcd and dlp technology? I have just noticed dlp is sooo much cheaper. I am in love with lcd because the bb guys say plasma is not good for my blu-ray and video gaming habits. Who would buy a plasma then? lol
That Best Buy guy is a moron! Plasmas are arguably the best HDTVs out there. Video games may look better on LCDs because the colors are brighter and there is no burn-in to worry about (with health bars and such). Plasmas may not have the brightest light coming out, but their colors are much deeper, especially the blacks (LCD's blacks are almost intolerable for me). This results in a more real looking image with movies. LCDs, even calibrated ones, tend to have oversaturated colors.

LCDs are prolly better for video games because of their brightness levels. All the colors tend to look more "hot" and since video games are more "cartoony" looking, it actually enhances the graphics. However, movies tend to look less real on LCDs than they do on Plasmas. Plasmas tend to have more accurate color tones and deeper shadows, thus looking more real.

Bottomline: LCDs are better as computer monitors and video game TVs, while Plasmas are better for movies and live action type stuff such as sports.

IMO, the plasma is the better buy because video games still look nice on it. Keep in mind there is no set way a video game is supposed to look, well the developer knows what its supposed to look like but your eyes dont. So a video game wont look wrong on a Plasma, just less "hot" than it would on an LCD. Movies however, well we all know what live human beings are supposed to look like and its more noticeable if they dont look accurate.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:22 AM   #8
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Not completely. Plasmas have the potential for "Image Burn" with video games, sports (with the score/clock in the same spot all the time), and your cable providers menu screen.

I hear they are working on perfecting Plasmas that are image burn resistant. Samsung has one out I think already.


U have to something very stupid to get image burn on the plasma. Like leave ur porno movie pause for a week. Samsung is not the only company make burn resistence. pioneer and panasonic has the problem solved as well.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:26 AM   #9
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That Best Buy guy is a moron! Plasmas are arguably the best HDTVs out there. Video games may look better on LCDs because the colors are brighter and there is no burn-in to worry about (with health bars and such). Plasmas may not have the brightest light coming out, but their colors are much deeper, especially the blacks (LCD's blacks are almost intolerable for me). This results in a more real looking image with movies. LCDs, even calibrated ones, tend to have oversaturated colors.

LCDs are prolly better for video games because of their brightness levels. All the colors tend to look more "hot" and since video games are more "cartoony" looking, it actually enhances the graphics. However, movies tend to look less real on LCDs than they do on Plasmas. Plasmas tend to have more accurate color tones and deeper shadows, thus looking more real.

Bottomline: LCDs are better as computer monitors and video game TVs, while Plasmas are better for movies and live action type stuff such as sports.

IMO, the plasma is the better buy because video games still look nice on it. Keep in mind there is no set way a video game is supposed to look, well the developer knows what its supposed to look like but your eyes dont. So a video game wont look wrong on a Plasma, just less "hot" than it would on an LCD. Movies however, well we all know what live human beings are supposed to look like and its more noticeable if they dont look accurate.



I honesly think Plasma i perfectly fine for gaming which i been gaming on for awhile. I think they look better cause most plasma produce more accurate colors. I likr plasma cause it feel kind close to the good old CRT TV. LCD IMO feels too much like looking at computer screen.
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I honesly think Plasma i perfectly fine for gaming which i been gaming on for awhile. I think they look better cause most plasma produce more accurate colors. I likr plasma cause it feel kind close to the good old CRT TV. LCD IMO feels too much like looking at computer screen.
Ya, plasmas are good for gaming. It's just some people prefer the hotter looking colors that LCDs provide. Overall plasmas are the better buy.
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