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It better be an extended cut with all the lyrics (and song) missing from the theatrical film. Hooper truncated the stage show into an almost indecipherable mess... when the initial assemblage was 4 hours, then his oridinal "director's cut" was 3... there was absolutely NO reason to cut another 30 minutes out of it and disrespect 25 years of fans but chopping up the songs which made it a hit in the first place. Nothing can fix the awful camerawork, but at least put the songs back in.
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Thanks given by: | Panama Jack (04-19-2017) |
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Banned
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Like I said, nothing can be done to fi that mess, but hopefully they will fix all the other things they did wrong via editing it for more showings per day. Last edited by retablo; 01-11-2013 at 11:12 PM. |
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Blu-ray Prince
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as for the worst part, I thought the sound mixing was terrible and that aspect got a Academy Award nomination - huh?? |
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Blu-ray Ninja
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Ebert said this was the only film, of the nine Oscar nominated films, that he didn't think deserved its nomination.
I was really excited for this, but not so much now. Will definitely pick it up, though. Love the musical and the cast, so I'm sure it will be good enough to belong in my collection. |
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Active Member
Jan 2010
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![]() Why are you blaming all of the cut lyrics on Hooper? A lot of those cuts are the same as the cuts in the current stage version too, and they've been there since long before the movie was made. If you listen to the 2010 London cast recording, or watch the 25th Anniversary concert, you'll see the same cuts to "Castle on a Cloud", "Come to Me", "Little People", and some of the sung dialogue scenes were shortened as well, as was the attempted bribery scene at the wedding. In fact, the movie version restored some of the lyrics that have been gone for the show for a while - Valjean's scene where tells the Thenardiers that Fantine has died was cut from the show ages ago, and the "Turning", scene brings back the "someone used to cradle them and kiss them when they cried" lyric that was cut from the stage show. The only missing lyric that really bothered me was Marius telling Cosette that he didn't know who rescued him from barricade, because then it went unexplained that he didn't. I know the stage musical backwards and forwards, but I wasn't expecting an exact replica of the stage production. And I like a lot of the changes - they way Eponine's placement was changed, the appearance of the Bishop in the finale, Gavroche's new lyrics in "Look Down", the new placement of "Do You Hear the People Sing?" (and Gavroche reprising it when it looked like the barricade was doomed), the new sung dialogue between Javert and Valjean. Hell, I even liked the new song, even though it was obvious Oscar bait. We lost "Dog Eat Dog", but I expect we'll see that back on the DVD. From what I've heard, the original rough cut was closer to 3 hours, but the studio wanted the cuts. Not the first (or last) movie to do it. Even with the cuts, the movie was criticized for being long. |
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Thanks given by: | Panama Jack (04-19-2017) |
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Jan 2010
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It was definitely different from the show, but it had to be. It wasn't just a matter of putting the stage show outside and filming it. I loved that they went back to the original novel and put stuff in that they weren't able to do on stage (like the convent scene). I get the criticism for the camerawork. I figured I wouldn't like it either after reading the reviews, but I wound up not having a problem with it. I even liked Russell Crowe. No, he doesn't sing like the actors I've seen on stage do it, but he acted the character so well that I didn't mind that the singing was less than what I was used to. And that scene with the medal? Damn... (and I read that scene was Crowe's idea) I've been waiting for a movie version of this forever, and I was just thrilled with it. |
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Blu-ray Ninja
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Blu-ray Prince
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Banned
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I've seen the old stage version and the new one... plus I've read the shooting script (it's easily available online), which has almost ALL the lyrics and verses intact. So they were shot, and Hooper confirmed this. Why he felt the need to go and cut them later is beyond me. The cuts ruined the pacing. Songs would just run into each other with no intro music. It all felt very disjointed... not to mention the live singing killed the musicality of many of the songs. Which is funny, that's some people's biggest complaint if they hadn't seen the stage show, that the songs weren't memorable or had much of a tune. Well, the originally did, anyway. |
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