2D to 3D AI Converter Software - Owl3D

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

As a hobby I PC Desktop Stream my 3D Blu-ray Collection on BigscreenVR. It's evolved from the longer SBS processing. To a much easier Rip your 3D Blu-ray and use PC Potplayer's built in MVC 3D Decoder for playback.

But I also dabbled in 2D-3D Conversion Software such as VideoByte and DVDFab which I used on hundreds of Blu-ray movies. Where they had that pushed in, window frame, middle only barely any depth.

Then word began to spread of this Expensive but amazing 2D-3D AI Converter in Beta giving great results called Owl3D. Word passed to me because many knew I liked to do 2D-3D Conversions.

I was skeptical at 1st but did put myself in the Discord Channel. So I could keep watch on how it the Beta was going. Until I ran into another Bigscreen Streamer. They showed me what they had done with the Owl3D. I was blown away and paid the $139 lifetime price.

I've been running a PC 24/7 going on 3 months now pump out 2D-3D Owl3D Conversions of my Blu-ray's. I couldn't be happier with the quality I'm getting. It does a Great Job 👍

I recently tried my 3D Blu-ray German Autoconversions running them in the Owl3D software. I was able to give those 3D movies more depth!

Only road block is you need a decent PC to run this software. It needs both CPU/GPU. The GPU need to have minimal 4GB Ram. I started by using a 5 year old Intel build: I7-6700 with a 2080ti It would take 48 hours to render a 2hr Movie. Then I did a new build: i9-14000K with 4080ti. It can do 2 complete renderings of up to 2 hour films in 24 hours.

Owl3D changed to a Subscription (any that paid full price prior is Legacy Owner) $10 Monthly now.

[AugieDog]

How was the 3D on some of the movies you converted?

I wonder if programs like these will be our only option in the future for getting 3D versions of older films or 3D versions of new movies in general.

[starmike]

I've seen Owl3D conversions. Terrible. They don't get the little areas, so you get decent depth with large objects, but then you lose proper conversion behind arms or windows.

[Mikeatron85]

Originally Posted by starmike

I've seen Owl3D conversions. Terrible. They don't get the little areas, so you get decent depth with large objects, but then you lose proper conversion behind arms or windows.

The latest version of the software yields significantly better results. I am actually quite surprised at how good this works. I've converted a number of music videos so far and despite several of them featuring quick cuts/extreme close-ups/etc., it manages to be pretty spot on most of the time. There are two things it could use improvements on IMO:
- It does struggle with random strands of hair that extend beyond the subject's head
- The method it uses to fill in the pixels behind a foreground subject (often seen around the edges) isn't perfect. However, they have addressed this and have a new method on the way that supposedly improves this.

If they've made this many advances in such a short window of time, I'm excited to see the state of this software a year from now.

[starmike]

If that's true, then that's awesome. It just seems to have a generic problem with openings. I'd like to see how it handles split diopter shots (as an example). I'd like to convert things too, but I just feel like I'd get frustrated with it until it's better.

[Mikeatron85]

Originally Posted by starmike

If that's true, then that's awesome. It just seems to have a generic problem with openings. I'd like to see how it handles split diopter shots (as an example). I'd like to convert things too, but I just feel like I'd get frustrated with it until it's better.

I'd give it another crack and see what you think. It's absolutely not perfect... but given we are rapidly approaching a point where no 3D content will be available for home consumption, there's going to be a lot of merit in this software if they continue to make improvements at the current rate.

[DaMegaTaco]

Just tried the program... It's alright. It does create multiple layers of depth, but those layers are flat so it leads to objects blending into other objects as well as creating something that looks more like a paper puppet theater with little paper puppets on stick within a box stage if that makes sense. Something like this :



It's cool and probably would work well with things like anime such as one piece where the various objects are flat drawings, and that's if it can recognize depth of animations as I only tested one 60 second clip from the beginning of As The Gods Will, but it will likely be a while before it can do conversions of live action stuff pretty well.

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

The current version 1.4.2 is really good and it's faster each release. Owl3D has a version for MAC users now. I've done 80 2D-3D films so far. I stream them on BigscreenVR. If anyone wants to see it. Join my Discord in my Signature I always post when I do Stream either MVC 3D or Owl3D.

I'm a fan of Anaglyph 3-D and just did my 1st with Toho Godzilla 2000 with Owl3D. Came out pretty good. On Sunday's I show 3-D Anaglyph right in my Discord Channel, come check it out.

[Mikeatron85]

Originally Posted by DaMegaTaco

Just tried the program... It's alright. It does create multiple layers of depth, but those layers are flat so it leads to objects blending into other objects as well as creating something that looks more like a paper puppet theater with little paper puppets on stick within a box stage if that makes sense. Something like this :



It's cool and probably would work well with things like anime such as one piece where the various objects are flat drawings, and that's if it can recognize depth of animations as I only tested one 60 second clip from the beginning of As The Gods Will, but it will likely be a while before it can do conversions of live action stuff pretty well.

That hasn't been my experience with the software at all. I've found it to be quite the opposite - especially with people.

I'll post some stills when I get a chance. The latest version of the software is pretty great.

Edit: I converted the latest Linkin Park music video as an example of what the software can do:

[Show spoiler]

[SMcKissick]

Originally Posted by Tricks-OR-Treats

The current version 1.4.2 is really good and it's faster each release. Owl3D has a version for MAC users now. I've done 80 2D-3D films so far. I stream them on BigscreenVR. If anyone wants to see it. Join my Discord in my Signature I always post when I do Stream either MVC 3D or Owl3D.

I'm a fan of Anaglyph 3-D and just did my 1st with Toho Godzilla 2000 with Owl3D. Came out pretty good. On Sunday's I show 3-D Anaglyph right in my Discord Channel, come check it out.

If there's a Mac version yet, I can't seem to find it?
I've been keeping my eye on this and have long ago clicked the Apple "Waitlist" button, but nothing so far.

Meantime I'm doing conversions on my own using other software, there's a very long thread about it over on the AVS forum if anyone's interested.
You need this other software, a very fast computer, and patience, BUT you can get very good results using these methods.

However, I'm always open to new software if it can best what I'm currently doing. Improved in-painting would be particularly welcome...

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[randomfellow]

Originally Posted by SMcKissick

If there's a Mac version yet, I can't seem to find it?

Go to their discord site and look in the beta section, should be in there.

However, I'm always open to new software if it can best what I'm currently doing. Improved in-painting would be particularly welcome...

It will not best your current workflow or do better inpainting (at least at this point). By all means though do check it out, always best to see with your own eyes.

[Barty McClarty]

Originally Posted by Tricks-OR-Treats

I stream them on BigscreenVR.

Unfortunately, I'm yet to achieve seamless streaming in any of BigscreenVR's public rooms; all playback is choppy - which is a great pity because the sections I saw of a few 2D-to-3D conversions looked promising.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Barty McClarty

Unfortunately, I'm yet to achieve seamless streaming in any of BigscreenVR's public rooms; all playback is choppy - which is a great pity because the sections I saw of a few 2D-to-3D conversions looked promising.

You are better off with local playback. Or at least streaming locally and BigScreen does have that option. Have you tried it? I did some time ago and if I didn't have local playback I would be using that feature.

[Barty McClarty]

Originally Posted by cdx47

You are better off with local playback. Or at least streaming locally and BigScreen does have that option. Have you tried it? I did some time ago and if I didn't have local playback I would be using that feature.

I was commenting specifically about watching 2D-to-3D conversions, created in Owl3D software by 'Tricks-OR-Treats', which he streams via a Bigscreen public viewing room.

All other 3D content is my own files which are stored locally on my NAS and which stream without fault - now with the added bonus of enjoying multichannel audio through my A/V receiver (thanks to the advice of your good self).

I'm very keen to view some of 'Tricks-OR-Treats' conversions of titles that were never officially formatted for 3D home-video release; but I don't see any point of persisting with 'Tricks-OR-Treats' Bigscreen streams when, for me, I can't achieve a consistent stream that would do them justice.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Barty McClarty

I was commenting specifically about watching 2D-to-3D conversions, created in Owl3D software by 'Tricks-OR-Treats', which he streams via a Bigscreen public viewing room.

OK understood. I wouldn't mind having a look. What's the name of his room?

[DVS3D]

I've not tested the very latest version but from previous tests it suffers quite badly from the typical issues that we spend all of our time with the AIPOP-3D Blu-ray releases fixing - missing thin objects/details in depth maps, warping, weird double features and all sorts of general weirdness. I wish it worked then I could just click one button and have a conversion ready to burn onto disc.

[SMcKissick]

I now see I DID get a message from Owl on Sunday that the Mac version is out -
it went in my spam folder of course! So credit to them, my mistake.

I had already downloaded it from the beta link - so far, yes, not really able to do as much with it as you can in After Effects/Fusion, BUT I can see for many folks it is still a fun "auto" solution.

On their site they say they are working on a "studio" version which presumably will add more control features. I'll be keeping my eye(s) on them to see what they come up with.
I think it's GREAT news for us too few 3D enthusiasts that the VR sets are keeping this interest alive. I look forward to continued improvements from various developers in the maps and the in-painting...

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[theatom]

As someone who did stereo conversions for years, I'm so skeptical about these programs. Wish I had all the proprietary nodes for Nuke, so I could just do them myself.

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

Just FYI, other Owl3D users are asking DEVS for 3D Spatial as in what AVP does. Might be a ways off from getting that.

[El Dopo]

OWL3d crashes almost immediately for me
Aynbody got ides of results for others? I'm in the midst of creating a 4K SBD 3D Suspiria with 4videosoft but probably won't get to have a good idea of the results for some time.