The Lion In Winter (1968) (Studiocanal Vintage Classics) 4K Blu-Ray [UK] - Blu-ray Forum

shy86 · 12-15-2024, 11:16 PM

The Lion In Winter (Vintage Classics)

Release date: 17 February

Purchase Links:

HMV

Amazon

Zavvi

Artwork:

Trekkie313 · 12-15-2024, 11:28 PM

That's some jank artwork.

Brian81 · 12-16-2024, 03:41 AM

I ordered the BD from Kino on Friday. LOL

Nitroes · 12-16-2024, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian81

I ordered the BD from Kino on Friday. LOL

We'd all like to take the opportunity to thank you as it wouldn't have been released otherwise

I have not seen the film in decades but I'll rewatch it for sure when it's a bit cheaper.

Hopefully they've dug up some interesting extras. I remember a making of on TV which would be good to see.

monstermidget · 12-16-2024, 09:30 AM

Excellent news! I held off on getting the blu for years.

Interested to see what the colour will be like, and whether they've looked at any original prints for reference. I expect we'll be seeing some accusations of "modern revisionism" and "digital grades" if they have.

PowellPressburger · 12-16-2024, 11:11 AM

If I’m not mistaken this takes place over Christmas.

Feb is perfect timing! Lol

Rizor · 12-16-2024, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monstermidget

Excellent news! I held off on getting the blu for years.

Interested to see what the colour will be like, and whether they've looked at any original prints for reference. I expect we'll be seeing some accusations of "modern revisionism" and "digital grades" if they have.

[Show spoiler]

They posted a trailer on Youtube. It's hard to judge the quality but the colors look rather dull to me.

I considered buying the Blu-ray from Kino myself, but figured a 4K had to be coming. Hopefully we'll get Becket as well.

Dailyan · 12-16-2024, 02:32 PM

I can’t imagine the color grade being that far off from the 4K-sourced restoration that Kino Lorber utilized for their 2018 Blu.

MifuneFan · 12-16-2024, 02:32 PM

Extras:

Quote:

EXTRAS:

NEW - The Heart of a Lion: An Interview with Anthony Hopkins
NEW - Shooting the Stars: An Interview with Camera Assistant Robin Vidgeon
Interview with John Castle
Interview with John Bloom
Anthony Harvey Audio Commentary
Behind the Scenes
Stills Gallery
2024 Restoration Trailer

Cremildo · 12-16-2024, 02:34 PM

Selling my Kino BD

Nitroes · 12-17-2024, 06:16 AM

https://www.grooves-inc.com/der-loew...101250544.html
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/movie/detai.../hnum/11946901
https://www.amazon.co.de/dp/B0DF244DKB/

nicwood · 02-18-2025, 02:57 PM

StudioCanal’s 4K is overall very good. They did a new HDR restoration from the negative and from the way it looks it was done in the UK by Silver Salt as colors and grain are top-notch. I have the KL BD of the film, which also has a 4K master, yet that one has periodic grain management which the new transfer hasn’t. The UHD is a BD-100 and has 2.0 PCM mono audio, which also sounds great. The terrible 5.1 remix that’s on the KL was not carried over. (KL have an exclusive interview with the sound recordist and he somewhat confusingly mentioned the film “probably” was six-track but they always recorded mono at the time unless the studios requested stereo. They also recorded the sound live and wanted to avoid ADR.)

Encoding is by VDMS and it’s largely excellent except for minor chroma noise, which isn’t a distraction in motion, and some visible pixel glitches (see my phone picture below) that occasionally creep into the image in bright static shots and where fast motion is involved, such as the opening sword duel with Peter O’Toole. In motion, I did see them but for most viewers this is surely no issue at all. These should’ve been avoided but I can live with that as the rest of the encode & master is excellent.

The included BD is also from the new restoration and looks great. The pixel glitches I saw on the 4K are not present here.

Geoff D · 02-18-2025, 03:20 PM

How weird is that? I guess we need to add pixel worms to the encoding lexicon

Kontrarian · 03-03-2025, 06:37 AM

What's the time stamp and area of the screen for those pixel worms?

Kontrarian · 03-03-2025, 06:41 AM

Arthaus:

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Disc Size: 100,005,800,868 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:14:29.625 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 95,073,149,952 bytes
Total Bitrate: 94.25 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 84879 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 102 kbps 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio English 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
LPCM Audio German 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio English 384 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 39.261 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 34.635 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 52.282 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.119 kbps

ghostof82 · 03-03-2025, 08:07 AM

I think it looks great, some lovely cinematography, but it's an actors film for sure- some great writing, snappy dialogue to get into. It's got a brilliant cast, great performances. They really don't make them like they used to.

fabio_p · 03-03-2025, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kontrarian

What's the time stamp and area of the screen for those pixel worms?

So the Lion had worms? That terrible, even in winter.

Kontrarian · 03-06-2025, 10:30 PM

I figured they would be but just so no one has to ask in the future, the Arthaus disc has the pixel worms as well.
Very visible on the right side of the frame.

100% crop:

Interesting shapes!

nicwood · 03-06-2025, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kontrarian

I figured they would be but just so no one has to ask in the future, the Arthaus disc has the pixel worms as well.
Very visible on the right side of the frame.

Interesting shapes!

FYI, Arthaus = Studiocanal. This is only a name they use in Germany predominantly for non-blockbuster titles.

McCrutchy · 03-06-2025, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kontrarian

[Show spoiler]

100% crop:

[Show spoiler]

Interesting shapes!

It looks like a balloon animal horse to me.

12-15-2024, 11:16 PM	#1
shy86 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Laurelindórenan & Ondolindë 4K collection:645 Blu-ray collection:1131 DVD collection:55 Trading Score:11	The Lion In Winter (1968) (Studiocanal Vintage Classics) 4K Blu-Ray [UK] The Lion In Winter (Vintage Classics) Release date: 17 February Purchase Links: HMV Amazon Zavvi Artwork: Last edited by shy86; 12-16-2024 at 01:18 PM.

03-06-2025, 10:30 PM	#18
Kontrarian Member Member since:Sep 2022	I figured they would be but just so no one has to ask in the future, the Arthaus disc has the pixel worms as well. Very visible on the right side of the frame. 100% crop: Interesting shapes! Last edited by Kontrarian; 03-06-2025 at 10:49 PM.

12-15-2024, 11:28 PM	#2
Trekkie313 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:1650 DVD collection:547 Digital collection:156 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:59	That's some jank artwork.

12-16-2024, 03:41 AM	#3
Brian81 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:4	I ordered the BD from Kino on Friday. LOL

12-16-2024, 09:30 AM	#5
monstermidget Senior Member Member since:Oct 2013	Excellent news! I held off on getting the blu for years. Interested to see what the colour will be like, and whether they've looked at any original prints for reference. I expect we'll be seeing some accusations of "modern revisionism" and "digital grades" if they have.

12-16-2024, 11:11 AM	#6
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:991 Blu-ray collection:3680 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	If I’m not mistaken this takes place over Christmas. Feb is perfect timing! Lol

12-16-2024, 02:32 PM	#8
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Beyond the Blue Horizon 4K collection:195 Blu-ray collection:2245 DVD collection:197 Blu-ray reviews: 58 Trading Score:55	I can’t imagine the color grade being that far off from the 4K-sourced restoration that Kino Lorber utilized for their 2018 Blu.

12-16-2024, 02:34 PM	#10
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1050 Trading Score:51	Selling my Kino BD

02-18-2025, 02:57 PM	#12
nicwood Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Location:Germany Trading Score:2	StudioCanal’s 4K is overall very good. They did a new HDR restoration from the negative and from the way it looks it was done in the UK by Silver Salt as colors and grain are top-notch. I have the KL BD of the film, which also has a 4K master, yet that one has periodic grain management which the new transfer hasn’t. The UHD is a BD-100 and has 2.0 PCM mono audio, which also sounds great. The terrible 5.1 remix that’s on the KL was not carried over. (KL have an exclusive interview with the sound recordist and he somewhat confusingly mentioned the film “probably” was six-track but they always recorded mono at the time unless the studios requested stereo. They also recorded the sound live and wanted to avoid ADR.) Encoding is by VDMS and it’s largely excellent except for minor chroma noise, which isn’t a distraction in motion, and some visible pixel glitches (see my phone picture below) that occasionally creep into the image in bright static shots and where fast motion is involved, such as the opening sword duel with Peter O’Toole. In motion, I did see them but for most viewers this is surely no issue at all. These should’ve been avoided but I can live with that as the rest of the encode & master is excellent. The included BD is also from the new restoration and looks great. The pixel glitches I saw on the 4K are not present here.

02-18-2025, 03:20 PM	#13
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	How weird is that? I guess we need to add pixel worms to the encoding lexicon

03-03-2025, 06:37 AM	#14
Kontrarian Member Member since:Sep 2022	What's the time stamp and area of the screen for those pixel worms?

03-03-2025, 08:07 AM	#16
ghostof82 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:93	I think it looks great, some lovely cinematography, but it's an actors film for sure- some great writing, snappy dialogue to get into. It's got a brilliant cast, great performances. They really don't make them like they used to.

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