Panasonic DP-UB450 4K Blu Ray Player

[trespoochies]

So this model seems pretty new. Per Amazon it came out last month. Does anyone have any details on it or have one? I already have the 820 which works great. I'd like to get another for my bedroom, but the 820 still remains pretty costly. This model seems pretty much on par with the 820, sans any apps which is fine by me as I never use them.

Based on a search, it looks like it's European model, but now available here.

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Pre...mr_ca_hp_atf_d

https://shop.panasonic.com/products/...y-player-ub450

[IndyMLVC]

It's been discussed a ton in the 820 thread. It's the 820 without the upscaling.

[Ulisez]

Originally Posted by trespoochies

So this model seems pretty new. Per Amazon it came out last month. Does anyone have any details on it or have one? I already have the 820 which works great. I'd like to get another for my bedroom, but the 820 still remains pretty costly. This model seems pretty much on par with the 820, sans any apps which is fine by me as I never use them.

Based on a search, it looks like it's European model, but now available here.

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Pre...mr_ca_hp_atf_d

https://shop.panasonic.com/products/...y-player-ub450

From what I’ve read on the manuals the difference between the 450 and the 820/420 is that 450 obtains Dolby Vision output that the 420 lacks, but sacrifices the HDR optimizer feature that comes with the 820/420. So if ur just wanting a basic player with Dolby Vision and no special features like the HDR optimizer then this should be a good buy.

[BXR 1138]

It's the same player as the UB150/154, just with Dolby Vision enabled.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=370325

[Icarusdream]

They had two Panasonic Dp-Ub450 left in Store here in Europe
One had TPCE34001B written in Black characters on the Box
The other had TPCE3400C in pink
Hoping it was a newer version i purchased TPCE3400C
What is the difference between the two what's been Updated if anything?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by BXR 1138

It's the same player as the UB150/154, just with Dolby Vision enabled.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=370325

ahhh bummer. the 150/154 had a notoriously shitty build quality...and that's saying something as the 420 and 820 aren't exactly built all that well to begin with.

[Terentin Quantino]

It's not new, I have it for a few years now. Great player, never had ANY problems playing any of my discs, when owners of the more expensive players reported problems many times on this forum. If anything, the remote control is quite nasty, but on the other hand you hit play and not touch it anymore.

I would recommend it to anyone who wants to have trouble free experience with playing UHDs in all HDR formats

[Misioon_Odisea]

I've been considering buying this as my next 4K Blu-ray player, now that it's finally available for the North American market. Here are some interesting tidbits I found while researching about it that may possibly favor my decision of going for this over another UB420 or another higher-end Panasonic player:

• The UB450 not only has auto-switching Dolby Vision, it also apparently doesn't exhibit the brightness clipping problems the UB820 and UB9000 suffer from, according to the following review: https://www.trustedreviews.com/revie...sonic-dp-ub450
  
  

  Originally Posted by John Archer

  However, the UB450 does manage one surprising picture advantage over both the UB820 and Sony’s recent, more expensive X800Mk2 and X1100ES 4K Blu-ray players: playback of Dolby Vision sources at their “correct” brightness levels. There’s none of the elevated brightness and clipping (loss of subtle shading and detail) in the brightest parts of HDR pictures that those other more expensive players exhibit.
  
  This deepens the mystery of the reason that this Dolby Vision issue has cropped up with some recent 4K Blu-ray players when DV works fine on other decks. My best guess is that different chipsets or Dolby Vision profiles are involved.
  
  While I know that Panasonic and Dolby are investigating, I haven’t heard anything about a solution for the UB820 and Sony’s recent players yet. But anyway, with the Panasonic DP-UB450 you don’t actually need a solution; its DV works just fine.

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  Originally Posted by torsteinvh

  I know this is a very old post, but I recently bought this player, and discovered that if I set resolution to 1080p to match regular Blu-rays, the player still outputs 4K when playing UHD discs

  Proven wrong, the player goes back to forcing everything to a single resolution when restarted after changing the setting. It's all right, I think the other advantages still justify the choice of the player anyways.

Other tidbits:

• Less relevant to me, but the UB450 outputs DSD audio files natively through HDMI, something at least the UB420 can't do, always converting DSD to PCM regardless of settings and output port. The UB450 doesn't have gapless file playback regardless of the format, however: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/pan...#post-57997168
  
  

  Originally Posted by lebellium

  A close relative who already owns the UB420 just bought the UB450.
  
  Therefore I can confirm that the UB450 is able to decode DSD natively. With the proper AV receiver you will get native DSD as input, without any PCM conversion.
  
  However, the gapless playback option from UB420, UB820 and UB9000...
  
  ... is now gone
  
  Native DSD without gapless playback....

• The UB450 carries a second HDMI port for audio and a coaxial audio output port, features the even lower-end UB150, which has been available in the United States for longer, lack. They could come in handy for me later.
• I don't need the HDR Optimizer from the higher-end Panasonic models, my display does HDR10 by itself just fine.

Given the above information, I may seek to purchase one UB450 next year if at least the first point is true. Granted, as long as it also performs correctly with triple-layer (BD-100) UHD discs as well, very important. If anyone with the player can comment on this last point, I will be interested to read about it.

[fredreed]

I just talked to Panasonic and the difference between the 450 and the 420 or even the 820 is that with the 450 it has to be connected to the router it does not WIFI built in. The 450 also has Dolby vision. It you can turn it on or off according to Panasonic. The 450 is new for 2024

[Misioon_Odisea]

Originally Posted by fredreed

I just talked to Panasonic and the difference between the 450 and the 420 or even the 820 is that with the 450 it has to be connected to the router it does not WIFI built in. The 450 also has Dolby vision. It you can turn it on or off according to Panasonic. The 450 is new for 2024

No, it's not truly new, it's been available in Europe since at least 2019, and no Wi-Fi is a big plus for me. I never used any of the online features of the UB420 besides firmware updating, and even then, I make sure to always use the Ethernet port, avoiding activating the wireless connection. I also wanted to mention that despite the UB450's remote control being indisputably inferior to its higher-end counterparts, I can just test my UB420's controller on it, and in case it works, then I just swap them with each other. Given the UB450 has no built-in Internet applications from what I understand, the maliciously-placed NETFLIX button on top of the up arrow's button should not be as big of a threat with the UB450 as it is with the UB420.

[fredreed]

I was thinking that the 450 is probably identical to the Panasonic's 154 unit because both have no WIFI built in.

[pr0darek]

Yet another big difference between UB420-820-9000 series vs UB150/450 series is much faster, interface and responsiveness, startup is also faster.

Completely different firmware base and processor Mediatek MT8581.

[Misioon_Odisea]

Originally Posted by pr0darek

Yet another big difference between UB420-820-9000 series vs UB150/450 series is much faster, interface and responsiveness, startup is also faster.

Completely different firmware base and processor.

Which would be the faster and more responsive line of models you're referring to: The UB420/820/9000 family, or the UB150/450 family?

[pr0darek]

Ub150/450 and also this family is cold.. no need fan

[Misioon_Odisea]

Originally Posted by pr0darek

Ub150/450 and also this family is cold..

I see, so the UB150/450, despite being supposedly inferior in build quality, are also faster with a more responsive interface and, according to you, run cooler than the UB420/820/9000. I do certainly have several discs that exhibit problems on my Panasonic UB420 no other player shows, mainly Disney 1080p Blu-rays which are excruciatingly sluggish to navigate through on the UB420. I think my decision is settled, plus it helps a lot that it's much cheaper than the UB820 and UB9000.

[Terentin Quantino]

Why would you want to connect the player to internet, when all the tvs that are actually worth playing UHD content on them already have all the apps (and usually better versions of them than such players have) you could want/need and more?

@Misioon_Odisea - I can confirm: if the player is set to 1080p output it will output HD blurays in 1080p, and UHD blurays in 4K with all the DV/HDR bells and whistles

[BXR 1138]

Originally Posted by Terentin Quantino

can confirm: if the player is set to 1080p

Do you mean Auto?

[Terentin Quantino]

Nope, when set to auto if it detects 4k screen it will actually set the 4k res = scale the everything to 4k.

Setting it to 1080p makes the best of both worlds - regular blurays get 1080p output, while uhds get 4k output.

It's weird but it works.

[pr0darek]

Show us info about resolution from tv or from avr which signal comes.

[Terentin Quantino]

It is how I said before, sorry but I'm not gonna bother proving it to you.