Bob le Flambeur 4K UHD (1956) / Le Doulos 4K UHD (1963) (Kino Studio Classics)

[MifuneFan]

Kino will be releasing two Jean-Pierre Melville films on 4K UHD on August 13th: Bob le Flambeur (1956), and Le Doulos (1963). The films have not been officially announced by Kino yet, but are up for pre-order at their site.

Bob Le Flambeur 4K UHD

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Bob-l...lu-ray/363383/

https://kinolorber.com/product/bob-le-flambeur-4kuhd

Extras:

• UHD SDR Master by StudioCanal – From a 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative
• Audio Commentary by Film Critic Nick Pinkerton
• Diary of a Villain: Documentary by Dominique Maillet (25:45)
• Theatrical Trailer
• In French with Optional English Subtitles

Le Doulos 4K UHD

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Le-Do...lu-ray/363382/

https://kinolorber.com/product/le-doulos-4kuhd

Extras:

• UHD SDR Master by StudioCanal – From a 4K Scan of the 35mm Original Camera Negative
• Audio Commentary by Film Historian Samm Deighan
• Melville - The Demon Within Him: Interview with First Assistant Director Volker Schlöndorff (29:34)
• Birth of the Detective Story Melville Style: Documentary (32:46)
• Theatrical Trailer
• In French with Optional English Subtitles

[BigDmo531]

Oh sick. Melville so hot in 4K this year

[Matt89]

Are ALL of Studio Canal's masters in SDR?? What's up with that?

[Dragun]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Are ALL of Studio Canal's masters in SDR?? What's up with that?

Was wondering about this as well. Are these older 4K masters created for Blu-Rays?

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by Dragun

Was wondering about this as well. Are these older 4K masters created for Blu-Rays?

The 2019 Blu-rays for each of these films were produced from 4K restorations completed by StudioCanal. These are likely to be from those same scans, but now in native 4K.

[Doomhunter]

Awesome, Bob le Flambeur!

[Gacivory]

Hell yes!!! I just need someone to hurry up and release Le deuxième souffle on Blu!

[Togusa]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Hell yes!!! I just need someone to hurry up and release Le deuxième souffle on Blu!

Le chat qui fume will release in UHD Le Deuxième souffle in France in the next few months, if you can import it.

[Ruined]

Kino is now deciding to rerelease all of those Blu rays from 4k masters that people said "why not release it on 4k UHD instead of blu-ray?". It seems though that nearly all of them are SDR masters, which is probably why Kino skipped 4K in the first place. If the original disc had a good encode the improvement from the native 4K version will likely be difficult to detect in motion in most cases

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by Togusa

Le chat qui fume will release in UHD Le Deuxième souffle in France in the next few months, if you can import it.

I can import when it’s importable.

[Brian81]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Kino is now deciding to rerelease all of those Blu rays from 4k masters that people said "why not release it on 4k UHD instead of blu-ray?". It seems though that nearly all of them are SDR masters, which is probably why Kino skipped 4K in the first place. If the original disc had a good encode the improvement from the native 4K version will likely be difficult to detect in motion in most cases

Maybe because they had not yet found the much cheaper authoring house yet.

[MifuneFan]

Keep in mind, when the Blu-rays were announced for these, Kino didn't even release their first 4K yet. It was still very early on for them with the format, and they were only releasing more popular/mainstream titles at the time because surely licensing/authoring/manufacturing 4K discs was a much bigger investment then compared to now.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Keep in mind, when the Blu-rays were announced for these, Kino didn't even release their first 4K yet. It was still very early on for them with the format, and they were only releasing more popular/mainstream titles at the time because surely licensing/authoring/manufacturing 4K discs was a much bigger investment then compared to now.

That may be, but prior to launching 4K UHD formal studies were done by major studios and electronics organizations that found the majority of people could not tell the difference between upconverted 2K and native 4K SDR on the typical sized consumer display. This is why HDR is on nearly every 4K disc and has been made the main selling point of the 4K UHD format.

Now that we are getting 4K SDR discs, I am just cautioning people that if the original 1080p blu-ray had a good encode and no major problems, spending another $25 on a 4K SDR from the same master may not yield an upgrade that is worth the money.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by Ruined

That may be, but prior to launching 4K UHD formal studies were done by major studios and electronics organizations that found the majority of people could not tell the difference between upconverted 2K and native 4K SDR on the typical sized consumer display. This is why HDR is on nearly every 4K disc and has been made the main selling point of the 4K UHD format.

Now that we are getting 4K SDR discs, I am just cautioning people that if the original 1080p blu-ray had a good encode and no major problems, spending another $25 on a 4K SDR from the same master may not yield an upgrade that is worth the money.

Yep, my thoughts exactly. For an all-time favorite, I'll certainly jump in even if it "only" has an SDR grade.

For all others though, if I already own the Blu-ray sourced from the 4K scan, then I'm not going to bother rebuying without HDR.

[trip66]

Originally Posted by Togusa

Le chat qui fume will release in UHD Le Deuxième souffle in France in the next few months, if you can import it.

No one has confirmed if that release will have English subs or not. Thats my most wanted Melville film!

[Togusa]

Originally Posted by trip66

No one has confirmed if that release will have English subs or not. Thats my most wanted Melville film!

You are right, we are waiting for the details of the disc, I hope they will add the english subs, sometimes they do, but lately less than theirs previous releases.

[Matt89]

I might jump on some of these ngl, despite them being in SDR, like their upcoming 4K of Narrow Margin. These are also two excellent French New Wave films, and even if they were to get UK UHDs direct from SC, their compression is often spotty as well, unless someone like FiM does the encode. It's not like this is a Kino vs an Arrow release.

I just think it's strange that they have all these 4K SDR masters kicking around. If they're 4K scans of the OCN, why are they not in HDR?? It's just very unusual. Makes me question how old they are.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Matt89

I might jump on some of these ngl, despite them being in SDR, like their upcoming 4K of Narrow Margin. These are also two excellent French New Wave films, and even if they were to get UK UHDs direct from SC, their compression is often spotty as well, unless someone like FiM does the encode. It's not like this is a Kino vs an Arrow release.

I just think it's strange that they have all these 4K SDR masters kicking around. If they're 4K scans of the OCN, why are they not in HDR?? It's just very unusual. Makes me question how old they are.

Its cheaper to make a 4K SDR master

[trip66]

Are these two films controlled by Studio Canal?

[TheBondFan]

I need to buy these two releases !