Done with Netflix. Now what? - Blu-ray Forum

Blue2 · 10-16-2011, 11:25 PM

I just cancelled my Netflix account. If Netlix had slowly raised prices, managed to keep the Starz content, and not pulled the whole bipolar Qwickster episode, I probably would have never opened my eyes enough to see what little value I was getting with them. The streaming quality was never that great, and I never even convinced myself to pay extra to get Blu-ray discs instead of DVD. I was truly asleep at the wheel for too long.

Just today I bought an ethernet router so I can finally get my Panasonic player connected to the internet. I have had an Amazon Prime account for years, but only occasionally watched movies on my laptop. Now that I can access the same free content on my TV, I think I will really start to enjoy it. I know the content isn't as broad as Netflix, but I can still find plenty to watch.

I also signed up for Blockbuster discs by mail. I get two Blu-rays/Video Games at a time for less than Netlix's comparable service. Add to that my access to free On Demand content from my cable provider, and the Redbox just down the street, I am going to spend less each month on entertainment, and get a more quality experience. I should send Reed Hastings a thank you letter.

Does anyone else have a service they want to recommend I look into. I haven't really done much reading about Hulu+ or Blockbuster streaming to know if it would even be worth it to pay extra. In between my own Blu-ray/DVD collection, Amazon Prime, On Demand, Cable TV, Redbox and the internet, I spend way too much time on the couch already. I just wonder what else might be out there that is as user friendly and exciting as the services I listed above.

Gempulse · 10-16-2011, 11:54 PM

I recently canceled my Netflix account as well, just because I was unhappy with the quality of the streaming.

I've just been buying a lot more movies on Blu & watching HBO/Starz/Encore cable programming. I might go back to Netflix eventually, but for now I'm done.

jakeneff · 10-17-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue2

I just wonder what else might be out there that is as user friendly and exciting as the services I listed above.

You replaced Netflix and yet you're looking for more? As far as I'm concerned it's tough to beat $8 /mo for their streaming content. Let's see, they are ending the Starz deal which was horrible VHS quality that I avoided like the plague and are instead putting money towards new deals with HD content. Every couple weeks they've been announcing a new contract such as the most recent one for CW shows.

ScarredLungs · 10-17-2011, 02:31 AM

Get an Amazon Prime account and use their streaming service. You have a good selection of movies, and you'll get free 2-day shipping for a year!

Blue2 · 10-17-2011, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jakeneff

You replaced Netflix and yet you're looking for more?

Yes, exactly. For three years I just accepted that Netflix was the top of the line service. I never questioned how good the service was, because the price was always low enough that it didn't matter.

Now that I have decided that Netflix is not a good value for me, why shouldn't I try out other services? It's time for me to experiment with other services and find those that work best for me. So far, the Amazon streaming that I have watched is higher quality, and cheaper per month than Netflix.

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Originally Posted by jakeneff

As far as I'm concerned it's tough to beat $8 /mo for their streaming content. Let's see, they are ending the Starz deal which was horrible VHS quality that I avoided like the plague and are instead putting money towards new deals with HD content. Every couple weeks they've been announcing a new contract such as the most recent one for CW shows.

I am happy that you enjoy your service from Netflix. Did you have any experiences with companies besides Netflix that you could share?

bobbydrugar · 10-17-2011, 02:48 AM

sorry to hear about your bad experience with netflix. i use a roku and have neflix strream amazon VOD with prime and hulu+ but the netflix just has more content and is my most widely used streaming service. plus hulu still has comercials. the amazon is my second favorite though. i do wish you the best of luck replacing netflix though.

Blue2 · 10-17-2011, 02:55 AM

Besides the commercial interruptions, do you have any other complaints about Hulu+?

Blue2 · 10-17-2011, 03:01 AM

I hope that the Kindle Fire launch opens up a flood of quality content signings for Amazon. Netflix may have "more" content, but they have a ton of content that I would never watch.

jakeneff · 10-17-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue2

Now that I have decided that Netflix is not a good value for me, why shouldn't I try out other services?

I'm not saying you wouldn't want to try other services. I'm just suggesting that if you're looking to spend money above and beyond the other services you listed anyway, Netflix is still a very good value, and at least on my PS3 it looks pretty great.

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I am happy that you enjoy your service from Netflix. Did you have any experiences with companies besides Netflix that you could share?

I get discs from my Blockbuster Total Access subscription as it's slightly cheaper than getting them from Netflix. They have some Blu-rays that Netflix doesn't, however I do sacrifice turnaround time (including no Saturday mailings). I use Redbox every great once in a while, but it's inconvenient to go to the store 2 days in a row.

As far as streaming, I have Amazon Prime, but I can only get their content on my TV through my TV app, which only outputs in stereo. I haven't tried Hulu+ as I'm not interested in paying $10/mo for it.

Anthony P · 10-19-2011, 12:24 AM

Are you hell bent on streaming?

Blockbuster has a disks by mail option and they include BD and games plus you can exchange in store if there is a local BB

1-out Unlimited - Unlimited Free Exchanges - $11.99 per month
2-out Unlimited - Unlimited Free Exchanges - $16.99 per month
3-out Unlimited - Unlimited Free Exchanges - $19.99 per month

Imamuppet · 10-19-2011, 03:21 PM

Their Blu-Ray availability is as bad if not worse than Netflix. I have 8 new releases in my queue and have received 1 movie in the last TWO weeks. Hell, even Netflix was better than that.

groove93 · 10-19-2011, 04:19 PM

I subscribe to Netflix, Hulu Plus, and Amazon Prime. No cable or Satellite.

Amazon Prime works similar to Itunes, which means you will NOT stream newer content for free. The newer TV shows and movies are a Pay as You Go method. While they are still adding content to stream for free, the content is mostly older TV shows, movies, and documentaries. Amazon's doesn't have the streaming library that Netflix has.

For me, Hulu Plus and Netflix helps free up hard disc space on my HTPC. I was recording shows like Frasier and Til' Death, and now that those shows are available on Netflix I can remove those two series from my list of TV Shows within Windows Media Center. I use the Hulu Desktop app and it's a great addition to WMC. I like to catch up on shows like The Daily Show, EP Daily, movie Trailers, and some movies which may not be available on either Netflix or Amazon Prime.

The two-day shipping deal with Amazon Prime is a great benefit and once in a while you can stream a newer movie for 1.99 on the weekends, but I can't deal with the nickel and dime affect their Pay as you Go model for newer movies has on my wallet.

1blufan · 10-19-2011, 04:22 PM

I was with Netflix for several years.
I use Blockbuster now, the in-store 1 out at a time. They ran a promotion for $7 for the first month. So far just with that I've rented and finished Gears 3,RAGE,BulletStorm and now working on Batman. I've rented Transformers 3,Scream 4 and several other new release titles. I like doing the in-store trades rather than the whole online thing like Netflix.
I also use Hulu+ and enjoy it a lot. Yes it has commercials, very brief 30 seconds here and there, nothing like you get when watching it on Network.
The choices of TV shows and miniseries I think beats anything out there.
They also carry Criterion movies and tons of great classics if you're into that.
I would recommend doing a free 30 day trial and test it out and see if it's something you would like to pay $7-$8 for a month. It updates everyday with shows. You miss the newest episode of Modern Family, they'll have it the next morning after being aired.

EricJ · 10-19-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue2

I am happy that you enjoy your service from Netflix. Did you have any experiences with companies besides Netflix that you could share?

Yes:
- Hulu: A good service of PD content back when they were free, but once they discovered people were watching TV and wanted to hitch their money wagon to it, they turned into the one cart-horse of "Watch this week's reruns" and charged us for it--Which means they brought in Alec Baldwin, brand-named themselves as a network of current network-TV shows, and the old movies disappeared. And if I watched The Office or Modern Family, that would actually mean something, but I don't usually watch too many shows from this millennium.

- Redbox: The Trailer-Park Blockbuster. And we're talking about the Blockbusters that used to have rows and rows of all those straight-to-DVD losers and After Dark horror cheapies on the New Release shelf, and then tried to get you to rent a game instead. If you look for movies where the Common People go, it only makes sense you're going to find movies that the Common People watch.

- Amazon Prime: If I ordered more disks on Amazon, I'd probably subscribe for the free shipping. But since I've only got ONE outlet to watch it on my TV (through the Panasonic Viera app, good but grainy), I'd need a better reason for the fact that most of the good PPV stuff is on Vudu.com. And cheaper.

- Vudu.com: If I HAVE to find an ancient obscure film that even Netflix doesn't have on hard-disk anymore, there's a good chance that Vudu's got it anyway, for $2-2.99. But apart from those emergencies, I don't like paying for stuff. Call me spoiled.

(Used to use them only for the fact that they were one of the only two 3-D VOD channels for my new set. But now looks like PS3 Store has given up on new titles--they cancelled Qube!

--and even Disney and Sony have now smelled the rental market and are broadcasting their 3D titles as Purchase-Only. And if I could buy them, Disney and Sony, I'd have bought them...)

- OnDemand: Wow, for $7.95, I can fast-forward AND rewind?

That totally blows away my DVD and BD collection! Who wants old films anyway?

- Blockbuster: We used to have a Blockbuster. Right next to the Stop & Shop. We don't anymore. Neither does anybody else.

- Cable TV: I remember MTV. I remember the Disney Channel. I remember Nick TVLand. I remember A&E. I remember Cartoon Network. I remember TLC before they showed two-headed babies and Discovery before they showed us bear hunters and ice fishers.
I remember Cable TV before it became obsessed with Joan Rivers on the red carpet and turned gay.

Valore · 10-19-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EricJ

Yes:
- Hulu: A good service of PD content back when they were free, but once they discovered people were watching TV and wanted to hitch their money wagon to it, they turned into the one cart-horse of "Watch this week's reruns" and charged us for it--Which means they brought in Alec Baldwin, brand-named themselves as a network of current network-TV shows, and the old movies disappeared. And if I watched The Office or Modern Family, that would actually mean something, but I don't usually watch too many shows from this millennium.

- Redbox: The Trailer-Park Blockbuster. And we're talking about the Blockbusters that used to have rows and rows of all those straight-to-DVD losers and After Dark horror cheapies on the New Release shelf, and then tried to get you to rent a game instead. If you look for movies where the Common People go, it only makes sense you're going to find movies that the Common People watch.

- Amazon Prime: If I ordered more disks on Amazon, I'd probably subscribe for the free shipping. But since I've only got ONE outlet to watch it on my TV (through the Panasonic Viera app, good but grainy), I'd need a better reason for the fact that most of the good PPV stuff is on Vudu.com. And cheaper.

- Vudu.com: If I HAVE to find an ancient obscure film that even Netflix doesn't have on hard-disk anymore, there's a good chance that Vudu's got it anyway, for $2-2.99. But apart from those emergencies, I don't like paying for stuff. Call me spoiled.

(Used to use them only for the fact that they were one of the only two 3-D VOD channels for my new set. But now looks like PS3 Store has given up on new titles--they cancelled Qube!

--and even Disney and Sony have now smelled the rental market and are broadcasting their 3D titles as Purchase-Only. And if I could buy them, Disney and Sony, I'd have bought them...)

- OnDemand: Wow, for $7.95, I can fast-forward AND rewind?

That totally blows away my DVD and BD collection! Who wants old films anyway?

- Blockbuster: We used to have a Blockbuster. Right next to the Stop & Shop. We don't anymore. Neither does anybody else.

- Cable TV: I remember MTV. I remember the Disney Channel. I remember Nick TVLand. I remember A&E. I remember Cartoon Network. I remember TLC before they showed two-headed babies and Discovery before they showed us bear hunters and ice fishers.
I remember Cable TV before it became obsessed with Joan Rivers on the red carpet and turned gay.

Vudu.com you say? I will have to check into this. Never heard of it. Thanks for the heads up

fredreed · 10-19-2011, 06:44 PM

I cancelled netflix but then went back because blockbuster is terrible and hulu and hulu plus are even worst. Right now you should stay with netflix because besides amazon on demand there's nothing out there for quality and value. The streaming may not be great but at least it's better then most of the other services out there like hulu and blockbuster. Blockbuster only has new titles available to watch not many old titles so it's a useless service. Amazon on demand is good but like netflix streaming is only good for certain movies not all of them. I have a few titles from amazon on demand and they look good. but remember if you like streaming and watching movies online and you have problems streaming the content don't blame netflix or these other services blame both your area that you live in and your local cable provider.

Blue2 · 10-19-2011, 11:04 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I am going to stick with Amazon Prime and Blockbuster Blu-by-mail for now. I don't miss Netflix at all. Every movie in my queue on Netflix is now in my queue on Blockbuster, and I apparently don't have the shipping problems some in this thread have experienced.

I have a feeling the next quarterly earnings report from Netflix is going to be disastrous for them.

Mr. Joshua · 10-23-2011, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EricJ

Yes:
- Hulu: A good service of PD content back when they were free, but once they discovered people were watching TV and wanted to hitch their money wagon to it, they turned into the one cart-horse of "Watch this week's reruns" and charged us for it--Which means they brought in Alec Baldwin, brand-named themselves as a network of current network-TV shows, and the old movies disappeared. And if I watched The Office or Modern Family, that would actually mean something, but I don't usually watch too many shows from this millennium.

- Redbox: The Trailer-Park Blockbuster. And we're talking about the Blockbusters that used to have rows and rows of all those straight-to-DVD losers and After Dark horror cheapies on the New Release shelf, and then tried to get you to rent a game instead. If you look for movies where the Common People go, it only makes sense you're going to find movies that the Common People watch.

- Amazon Prime: If I ordered more disks on Amazon, I'd probably subscribe for the free shipping. But since I've only got ONE outlet to watch it on my TV (through the Panasonic Viera app, good but grainy), I'd need a better reason for the fact that most of the good PPV stuff is on Vudu.com. And cheaper.

- Vudu.com: If I HAVE to find an ancient obscure film that even Netflix doesn't have on hard-disk anymore, there's a good chance that Vudu's got it anyway, for $2-2.99. But apart from those emergencies, I don't like paying for stuff. Call me spoiled.

(Used to use them only for the fact that they were one of the only two 3-D VOD channels for my new set. But now looks like PS3 Store has given up on new titles--they cancelled Qube!

--and even Disney and Sony have now smelled the rental market and are broadcasting their 3D titles as Purchase-Only. And if I could buy them, Disney and Sony, I'd have bought them...)

- OnDemand: Wow, for $7.95, I can fast-forward AND rewind?

That totally blows away my DVD and BD collection! Who wants old films anyway?

- Blockbuster: We used to have a Blockbuster. Right next to the Stop & Shop. We don't anymore. Neither does anybody else.

- Cable TV: I remember MTV. I remember the Disney Channel. I remember Nick TVLand. I remember A&E. I remember Cartoon Network. I remember TLC before they showed two-headed babies and Discovery before they showed us bear hunters and ice fishers.
I remember Cable TV before it became obsessed with Joan Rivers on the red carpet and turned gay.

That was a great post, especially about cable TV. I remember when the cable attached right to the TV and there was just one HBO, one Showtime, one Cinemax and one The Movie Channel. Those were the days. I'd take that back with some 1080p broadcasting. Set top boxes are hideous. I wonder if my PS3 will one day be a set top box. I always hated that the STB really screws up your audio. My parents just got Comcast, they moved to a neighborhood that Comcast bought the rights to be the only provider and the damn STB doesn't even have and HDMI out. I have to check into that for them.

scorpiontail60 · 10-23-2011, 06:49 AM

What is up with complaining about cable set-top boxes? Cable is by far the best service over satellite or AT&T U-verse when it comes to having superior set-top boxes. Wanna know why? All cable companies, including Verizon FiOS, have to support the CableCARD™, as mandated by the FCC. This little device which you rent from the cable company for $5 or less (sure beats the hell out of $15+ per month rental fees for one of their boxes!), can tune up to six channels simultaneously depending on what device you stick it in.

A CableCARD, when used with a CableCARD tuner such as the Ceton InfiniTV 4, HDHomeRun PRIME, or WinTV DCR-2650, offers an incredible interface via Windows 7 Media Center. Windows 7 Media Center offers a beautiful native high definition interface with zero lag. It kicks the crap out of cable, satellite, and telephone company set-top boxes. You can watch and record any cable channel - including HBO HD - with one of these devices. The only exception is Pay Per View and On Demand content.

Using the terrible set-top box argument as a negative against cable when this alternative exists and is exclusive to cable is utterly absurd.

Beaucamper · 10-24-2011, 10:09 PM

I quit Netflix a year ago because they suddenly stopped coming out with classics on BluRay.

They don't even have Psycho on Blu.
If you like great ones from the past, check out Classicflix.com. They have almost everything pre-1970 and they even have titles that don't usually rent, like Ma, Mad World, The Big Country and even the superbly remastered Ben-Hur. I have Blockbuster for new BluRays and Classicflix for the great old ones.
I hate streaming. When it goes 1080 I'll give it try. Not one minute before.

10-16-2011, 11:25 PM	#1
Blue2 Member Member since:Feb 2011 Blu-ray collection:189	Done with Netflix. Now what? I just cancelled my Netflix account. If Netlix had slowly raised prices, managed to keep the Starz content, and not pulled the whole bipolar Qwickster episode, I probably would have never opened my eyes enough to see what little value I was getting with them. The streaming quality was never that great, and I never even convinced myself to pay extra to get Blu-ray discs instead of DVD. I was truly asleep at the wheel for too long. Just today I bought an ethernet router so I can finally get my Panasonic player connected to the internet. I have had an Amazon Prime account for years, but only occasionally watched movies on my laptop. Now that I can access the same free content on my TV, I think I will really start to enjoy it. I know the content isn't as broad as Netflix, but I can still find plenty to watch. I also signed up for Blockbuster discs by mail. I get two Blu-rays/Video Games at a time for less than Netlix's comparable service. Add to that my access to free On Demand content from my cable provider, and the Redbox just down the street, I am going to spend less each month on entertainment, and get a more quality experience. I should send Reed Hastings a thank you letter. Does anyone else have a service they want to recommend I look into. I haven't really done much reading about Hulu+ or Blockbuster streaming to know if it would even be worth it to pay extra. In between my own Blu-ray/DVD collection, Amazon Prime, On Demand, Cable TV, Redbox and the internet, I spend way too much time on the couch already. I just wonder what else might be out there that is as user friendly and exciting as the services I listed above.

10-19-2011, 03:21 PM	#11
Imamuppet Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Deliverance Country	Blockbuster Their Blu-Ray availability is as bad if not worse than Netflix. I have 8 new releases in my queue and have received 1 movie in the last TWO weeks. Hell, even Netflix was better than that. Last edited by Imamuppet; 10-24-2011 at 05:24 PM.

10-19-2011, 06:44 PM	#16
fredreed Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Done with Netflix, now what? I cancelled netflix but then went back because blockbuster is terrible and hulu and hulu plus are even worst. Right now you should stay with netflix because besides amazon on demand there's nothing out there for quality and value. The streaming may not be great but at least it's better then most of the other services out there like hulu and blockbuster. Blockbuster only has new titles available to watch not many old titles so it's a useless service. Amazon on demand is good but like netflix streaming is only good for certain movies not all of them. I have a few titles from amazon on demand and they look good. but remember if you like streaming and watching movies online and you have problems streaming the content don't blame netflix or these other services blame both your area that you live in and your local cable provider.

10-16-2011, 11:54 PM	#2
Gempulse Expert Member Member since:Aug 2010 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1	I recently canceled my Netflix account as well, just because I was unhappy with the quality of the streaming. I've just been buying a lot more movies on Blu & watching HBO/Starz/Encore cable programming. I might go back to Netflix eventually, but for now I'm done.

10-17-2011, 02:31 AM	#4
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	Get an Amazon Prime account and use their streaming service. You have a good selection of movies, and you'll get free 2-day shipping for a year!

10-17-2011, 02:48 AM	#6
bobbydrugar Special Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:San Francisco CA Home Theater Gallery:48 Blu-ray collection:1049 DVD collection:427	sorry to hear about your bad experience with netflix. i use a roku and have neflix strream amazon VOD with prime and hulu+ but the netflix just has more content and is my most widely used streaming service. plus hulu still has comercials. the amazon is my second favorite though. i do wish you the best of luck replacing netflix though.

10-17-2011, 02:55 AM	#7
Blue2 Member Member since:Feb 2011 Blu-ray collection:189	Besides the commercial interruptions, do you have any other complaints about Hulu+?

10-17-2011, 03:01 AM	#8
Blue2 Member Member since:Feb 2011 Blu-ray collection:189	I hope that the Kindle Fire launch opens up a flood of quality content signings for Amazon. Netflix may have "more" content, but they have a ton of content that I would never watch.

10-19-2011, 12:24 AM	#10
Anthony P Blu-ray Count Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	Are you hell bent on streaming? Blockbuster has a disks by mail option and they include BD and games plus you can exchange in store if there is a local BB 1-out Unlimited - Unlimited Free Exchanges - $11.99 per month 2-out Unlimited - Unlimited Free Exchanges - $16.99 per month 3-out Unlimited - Unlimited Free Exchanges - $19.99 per month

10-19-2011, 04:19 PM	#12
groove93 Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:74 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:162	I subscribe to Netflix, Hulu Plus, and Amazon Prime. No cable or Satellite. Amazon Prime works similar to Itunes, which means you will NOT stream newer content for free. The newer TV shows and movies are a Pay as You Go method. While they are still adding content to stream for free, the content is mostly older TV shows, movies, and documentaries. Amazon's doesn't have the streaming library that Netflix has. For me, Hulu Plus and Netflix helps free up hard disc space on my HTPC. I was recording shows like Frasier and Til' Death, and now that those shows are available on Netflix I can remove those two series from my list of TV Shows within Windows Media Center. I use the Hulu Desktop app and it's a great addition to WMC. I like to catch up on shows like The Daily Show, EP Daily, movie Trailers, and some movies which may not be available on either Netflix or Amazon Prime. The two-day shipping deal with Amazon Prime is a great benefit and once in a while you can stream a newer movie for 1.99 on the weekends, but I can't deal with the nickel and dime affect their Pay as you Go model for newer movies has on my wallet.

10-19-2011, 04:22 PM	#13
1blufan Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:The Road to Nowhere. Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:198	I was with Netflix for several years. I use Blockbuster now, the in-store 1 out at a time. They ran a promotion for $7 for the first month. So far just with that I've rented and finished Gears 3,RAGE,BulletStorm and now working on Batman. I've rented Transformers 3,Scream 4 and several other new release titles. I like doing the in-store trades rather than the whole online thing like Netflix. I also use Hulu+ and enjoy it a lot. Yes it has commercials, very brief 30 seconds here and there, nothing like you get when watching it on Network. The choices of TV shows and miniseries I think beats anything out there. They also carry Criterion movies and tons of great classics if you're into that. I would recommend doing a free 30 day trial and test it out and see if it's something you would like to pay $7-$8 for a month. It updates everyday with shows. You miss the newest episode of Modern Family, they'll have it the next morning after being aired.

10-19-2011, 11:04 PM	#17
Blue2 Member Member since:Feb 2011 Blu-ray collection:189	Thanks for all the suggestions. I am going to stick with Amazon Prime and Blockbuster Blu-by-mail for now. I don't miss Netflix at all. Every movie in my queue on Netflix is now in my queue on Blockbuster, and I apparently don't have the shipping problems some in this thread have experienced. I have a feeling the next quarterly earnings report from Netflix is going to be disastrous for them.

10-23-2011, 06:49 AM	#19
scorpiontail60 Banned Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray reviews:1	What is up with complaining about cable set-top boxes? Cable is by far the best service over satellite or AT&T U-verse when it comes to having superior set-top boxes. Wanna know why? All cable companies, including Verizon FiOS, have to support the CableCARD™, as mandated by the FCC. This little device which you rent from the cable company for $5 or less (sure beats the hell out of $15+ per month rental fees for one of their boxes!), can tune up to six channels simultaneously depending on what device you stick it in. A CableCARD, when used with a CableCARD tuner such as the Ceton InfiniTV 4, HDHomeRun PRIME, or WinTV DCR-2650, offers an incredible interface via Windows 7 Media Center. Windows 7 Media Center offers a beautiful native high definition interface with zero lag. It kicks the crap out of cable, satellite, and telephone company set-top boxes. You can watch and record any cable channel - including HBO HD - with one of these devices. The only exception is Pay Per View and On Demand content. Using the terrible set-top box argument as a negative against cable when this alternative exists and is exclusive to cable is utterly absurd.

10-24-2011, 10:09 PM	#20
Beaucamper Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Santa Cruz CA Blu-ray collection:36 Blu-ray reviews:1	I quit Netflix a year ago because they suddenly stopped coming out with classics on BluRay. They don't even have Psycho on Blu. If you like great ones from the past, check out Classicflix.com. They have almost everything pre-1970 and they even have titles that don't usually rent, like Ma, Mad World, The Big Country and even the superbly remastered Ben-Hur. I have Blockbuster for new BluRays and Classicflix for the great old ones. I hate streaming. When it goes 1080 I'll give it try. Not one minute before.

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