DTS Bomb On Master and Commander - Blu-ray Forum

Marcusarilius · 05-20-2008, 12:08 AM

So, I was under the impression that studios were supposed to have this resolved already.

Yes, yes. I know about the download for the Onkyo 805. This isn't my point.

When will this nerve shattering gun shot at 125 dbl, speaker terminating glitch be resolved once and for all by the studios?

BStecke · 05-20-2008, 12:11 AM

I don't think it's the studios, otherwise every receiver from every make would have the problem. Did you already do the update?

Ice2Dragon · 05-20-2008, 12:16 AM

theres an update for the 805? the hell did this happen?

JJ · 05-20-2008, 12:18 AM

Kinda makes you feel weak and powerless to control anything, huh?

Clark Kent · 05-20-2008, 12:20 AM

Remember this movie was encoded long ago. It has been delayed several times already. Update your Onkyo and things should be fine.

Hep · 05-20-2008, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

theres an update for the 805? the hell did this happen?

Read this for more info (applies to both the 875 and 805).

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ts-hdma+update

SkullPhyre · 05-20-2008, 12:29 AM

There is no reason for people to keep posting about movies with the DTS "bomb"
and including timestamps for it. All new receivers have the updated dsp's, and everyone "should" know about the update it is simple and easy to do. Hell most people have a ps3 and that will do the update. And if people are on this forum they have a burner to make a disc.

BStecke · 05-20-2008, 12:31 AM

Even though I have a PS3 and it doesn't matter, was there an update needed for Pioneer receivers?

jon s · 05-20-2008, 12:31 AM

if you already know that the problem is with the DSP software, why would you blame the encoders? Since only the DSPs used by Yamaha and Onkyo exhibited this problem, it cannot be a problem with the encoders since the decoding DSPs used by Pioneer and Denon do not exhibit the issue.

BStecke · 05-20-2008, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon s

if you already know that the problem is with the DSP software, why would you blame the encoders? Since only the DSPs used by Yamaha and Onkyo exhibited this problem, it cannot be a problem with the encoders since the decoding DSPs used by Pioneer and Denon do not exhibit the issue.

Sweet, that answers my question

SkullPhyre · 05-20-2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon s

if you already know that the problem is with the DSP software, why would you blame the encoders? Since only the DSPs used by Yamaha and Onkyo exhibited this problem, it cannot be a problem with the encoders since the decoding DSPs used by Pioneer and Denon do not exhibit the issue.

People like to have something to complain about and someone to blame.

Bobby Henderson · 05-20-2008, 01:23 AM

Has Yamaha issued a firmware update for their receivers? Or have they swapped out affected hardware?

I've been looking at the Yamaha RX-V1800 as a possible replacement for a 9 year old Yamaha RX-V995 receiver. If Yamaha has done nothing about the issue I may go with something from Denon instead.

richard lichtenfelt · 05-20-2008, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon s

if you already know that the problem is with the DSP software, why would you blame the encoders? Since only the DSPs used by Yamaha and Onkyo exhibited this problem, it cannot be a problem with the encoders since the decoding DSPs used by Pioneer and Denon do not exhibit the issue.

Makes sense that it would be a quality issue.
Denon and Pioneer are of better qualty than Onkyo and Yamaha.
Yamaha has decreased in quality from what they once were, and Onkyo has always been about giving lots of features at a bargain price.
Denon has always been a get what you pay for brand; you'll pay extra, but the sound is silky smooth throughout all ranges and volumes.

coolmilo · 05-20-2008, 01:35 AM

I am glad that Master and Commander has the DTS Bomb. Now I have a good reason to return this Blu-ray. I love the movie but I hate the job Fox did with the PQ on this title. It really sux. I'll stick with the DVD for now.

WickyWoo · 05-20-2008, 01:38 AM

There is going to be a bomb on virtually any DTS HDMA title on the affected units. ASSUME it's going to happen until you update your reciever firmware.

un4gvn94538 · 05-20-2008, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

So, I was under the impression that studios were supposed to have this resolved already.

Yes, yes. I know about the download for the Onkyo 805. This isn't my point.

When will this nerve shattering gun shot at 125 dbl, speaker terminating glitch be resolved once and for all by the studios?

i thought you updated your receiver marcus?

05-20-2008, 12:08 AM	#1
Marcusarilius Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Seattle, WA. Blu-ray reviews:52 Trading Score:1	DTS Bomb On Master and Commander So, I was under the impression that studios were supposed to have this resolved already. Yes, yes. I know about the download for the Onkyo 805. This isn't my point. When will this nerve shattering gun shot at 125 dbl, speaker terminating glitch be resolved once and for all by the studios? Last edited by Marcusarilius; 05-20-2008 at 12:26 AM.

05-20-2008, 12:11 AM	#2
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I don't think it's the studios, otherwise every receiver from every make would have the problem. Did you already do the update? Last edited by BStecke; 05-20-2008 at 12:15 AM.

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Ice2Dragon Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:9	theres an update for the 805? the hell did this happen?

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05-20-2008, 12:20 AM	#5
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Remember this movie was encoded long ago. It has been delayed several times already. Update your Onkyo and things should be fine.

05-20-2008, 12:29 AM	#7
SkullPhyre Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Portland, Oregon Blu-ray collection:184	There is no reason for people to keep posting about movies with the DTS "bomb" and including timestamps for it. All new receivers have the updated dsp's, and everyone "should" know about the update it is simple and easy to do. Hell most people have a ps3 and that will do the update. And if people are on this forum they have a burner to make a disc.

05-20-2008, 12:31 AM	#8
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Even though I have a PS3 and it doesn't matter, was there an update needed for Pioneer receivers?

05-20-2008, 12:31 AM	#9
jon s Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	if you already know that the problem is with the DSP software, why would you blame the encoders? Since only the DSPs used by Yamaha and Onkyo exhibited this problem, it cannot be a problem with the encoders since the decoding DSPs used by Pioneer and Denon do not exhibit the issue.

05-20-2008, 01:23 AM	#12
Bobby Henderson Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Oklahoma Blu-ray collection:96 Blu-ray reviews: 12	Has Yamaha issued a firmware update for their receivers? Or have they swapped out affected hardware? I've been looking at the Yamaha RX-V1800 as a possible replacement for a 9 year old Yamaha RX-V995 receiver. If Yamaha has done nothing about the issue I may go with something from Denon instead.

05-20-2008, 01:35 AM	#14
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	I am glad that Master and Commander has the DTS Bomb. Now I have a good reason to return this Blu-ray. I love the movie but I hate the job Fox did with the PQ on this title. It really sux. I'll stick with the DVD for now.

05-20-2008, 01:38 AM	#15
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	There is going to be a bomb on virtually any DTS HDMA title on the affected units. ASSUME it's going to happen until you update your reciever firmware.

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