300, that bad? - Blu-ray Forum

Cinemaddict · 03-21-2008, 05:21 AM

I've read a few fairly negative reviews for the 300 Blu-Ray Disc. I had always thought the 300 was supposed to be one of the ultimate BDs. But the reviews I've read almost make me wonder if the DVD is better.

Is the 300 BD really that bad?

Thertel88 · 03-21-2008, 05:22 AM

everyone hates the grain

Colglizity · 03-21-2008, 05:27 AM

nevermind the grain, I didn't think the movie was any good at all. But that's just my opinion...

Marcusarilius · 03-21-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cinemaddict

I've read a few fairly negative reviews for the 300 Blu-Ray Disc. I had always thought the 300 was supposed to be one of the ultimate BDs. But the reviews I've read almost make me wonder if the DVD is better.

Is the 300 BD really that bad?

Its hard to beat DVD for PQ and SQ.

Gremal · 03-21-2008, 05:30 AM

Great movie, great picture. People see noise and they lose their minds.

What does DVD vs Blu-ray have to do with NOISE? That is the biggest misconception in all of this. Blu-ray provides more RESOLUTION than DVD, as well as better audio capabilities. It is not a noise reduction technology, and never was intended as such.

Beating a dead horse... bringing up/asking something that has been discussed a thousand times before

ZeeMan84 · 03-21-2008, 05:35 AM

The heavy grain was intentional by the director to convey the graphic book feel to the screen, so you'll see lots of grain and if that's the 1st movie you watch on Hi-Def than you might think the upgrade from DVD is by not that much. but it's not Blu-ray's fault but the actual movie's style.

BluPayne4400 · 03-21-2008, 05:37 AM

300, that good

saginawjuggalo · 03-21-2008, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Thertel88

everyone hates the grain

I Love grain... Grain is good.. Grain is our friend... Just say NO to Noise Reduction

smith1080p · 03-21-2008, 05:45 AM

I have 300 on dvd and blu ray
Yes there is grain....But it was meant to be that way
BUT! Some spots and angles in the movie there is no grain and it looks great
One i can remember is when there walking thru that little path between the mountains the angle from the back view theres no grain...And thats just me remembering off the top of my head.

The LIKENESS between dvd and blu ray...they have grain
The DIFFERENCE....Blu ray has grain but the characters and scenery looks better just with grain on them...
I watched this movie alot...I watched it 2 times over the last week.
I like it..But i also like movies like troy...gladiator...braveheart...kingdom of heaven...

The cast they did for this movie was AMAZING...all the actors fit there parts
I love the movie...I mean you can buy the movie ultraviolet (which sucks))
And get no grain and good picture...Or buy 300...great movie...With grain but even the guy that made it said he wanted it to have that feel not all clear...
Thats just my opinion tho...I say rent it if your worried..
And i watched 300 on HD DVD and it wasnt that good
Blu ray really stepped it up on this movie and the audio is great too.
Dont let alot of people sway your judgement...Try it on for size see if you like.

Marcusarilius · 03-21-2008, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by saginawjuggalo

I Love grain... Grain is good.. Grain is our friend... Just say NO to Noise Reduction

I eat grain for breakfast!

saginawjuggalo · 03-21-2008, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smith1080p

And i watched 300 on HD DVD and it wasnt that good
Blu ray really stepped it up on this movie

Bullshit. They use the same VC-1 video encode... therefore they have the same PQ.

saginawjuggalo · 03-21-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

I eat grain for breakfast!

Yarr, Matey.. I reckon grain taste a mighty fine

Putting your foot in your mouth (accidentally saying something that causes embarrassment or harm)

smith1080p · 03-21-2008, 05:55 AM

Well maybe it was the player...I watched 300 on a xbox 360 hd dvd player
then i watched king kong right after those was the only 2 my friend had...Maybe king kong outshined it because that was one amazing looking movie...But when i finally bought 300 on blu ray...not caring about the grain because i like the movie..I wouldnt use this movie to show off my blu ray player...but its not as bad as people say it is...I like the story and action in it.

If there was a difference were blu rays version was better or different i would believe it...If not...then i just thought so myself. Either way try it out with a rent at the least.

saginawjuggalo · 03-21-2008, 06:01 AM

Your right... I forgot to mention it but the only difference you would precive would be between the players. Which could be very likely the case considering you are using the X-Box add-on. It's considered by many to be the wrost HD DVD player. and yes, King Kong kills 300 in the PQ department

smith1080p · 03-21-2008, 06:02 AM

Be nice to see King Kong on Blu Ray

saginawjuggalo · 03-21-2008, 06:07 AM

Yeah kinda..

If they did a port over, it wouldn't matter to me then. (as I own it on HD DVD already)

If they re-encoded it, I would be forced into buying it 'again' for demo proposes and that's not something I like doing if I don't have to... If Blu-ray can improve on King Kong it will be a must own for every Blu-ray owner!

I hate double dipping though... but maybe that's just me

Marcusarilius · 03-21-2008, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by smith1080p

Be nice to see King Kong on Blu Ray

Be nice to see anything from Universal on Blu-ray...

Zaphod · 03-21-2008, 06:11 AM

Take it with a grain of salt...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

Be nice to see anything from Universal on Blu-ray...

Shoot, is every thread going to be taken over tonight?

smith1080p · 03-21-2008, 06:11 AM

Yeah i just got into blu ray 2 months ago...I couldnt decide which way to go and have alot of normal dvds....So i couldve got the normal dvd...went to hd dvd...got the hd dvd version...then hd dvd quits and have to get the blu ray version...TRIPLE DIP???? lol wonder how many people did that tho...Silly as it sounds...

Marcusarilius · 03-21-2008, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by smith1080p

Yeah i just got into blu ray 2 months ago...I couldnt decide which way to go and have alot of normal dvds....So i couldve got the normal dvd...went to hd dvd...got the hd dvd version...then hd dvd quits and have to get the blu ray version...TRIPLE DIP???? lol wonder how many people did that tho...Silly as it sounds...

Iv'e only heard of one person...

03-21-2008, 05:21 AM	#1
Cinemaddict Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:1	300, that bad? I've read a few fairly negative reviews for the 300 Blu-Ray Disc. I had always thought the 300 was supposed to be one of the ultimate BDs. But the reviews I've read almost make me wonder if the DVD is better. Is the 300 BD really that bad?

03-21-2008, 06:07 AM	#16
saginawjuggalo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Saginaw, Michigan 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:2058 DVD collection:85 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:2	Yeah kinda.. If they did a port over, it wouldn't matter to me then. (as I own it on HD DVD already) If they re-encoded it, I would be forced into buying it 'again' for demo proposes and that's not something I like doing if I don't have to... If Blu-ray can improve on King Kong it will be a must own for every Blu-ray owner! I hate double dipping though... but maybe that's just me Last edited by saginawjuggalo; 03-21-2008 at 06:11 AM.

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03-21-2008, 05:22 AM	#2
Thertel88 Banned Member since:Jan 2008	everyone hates the grain

03-21-2008, 05:27 AM	#3
Colglizity Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Washington (360) Home Theater Gallery:40 Blu-ray collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:3	nevermind the grain, I didn't think the movie was any good at all. But that's just my opinion...

03-21-2008, 05:30 AM	#5
Gremal Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Daddyland Home Theater Gallery:49 Blu-ray collection:184	Great movie, great picture. People see noise and they lose their minds. What does DVD vs Blu-ray have to do with NOISE? That is the biggest misconception in all of this. Blu-ray provides more RESOLUTION than DVD, as well as better audio capabilities. It is not a noise reduction technology, and never was intended as such.

03-21-2008, 05:35 AM	#6
ZeeMan84 Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Orlando, FL	The heavy grain was intentional by the director to convey the graphic book feel to the screen, so you'll see lots of grain and if that's the 1st movie you watch on Hi-Def than you might think the upgrade from DVD is by not that much. but it's not Blu-ray's fault but the actual movie's style.

03-21-2008, 05:37 AM	#7
BluPayne4400 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Florida Blu-ray reviews:26 Trading Score:84	300, that good

03-21-2008, 05:45 AM	#9
smith1080p Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:4	I have 300 on dvd and blu ray Yes there is grain....But it was meant to be that way BUT! Some spots and angles in the movie there is no grain and it looks great One i can remember is when there walking thru that little path between the mountains the angle from the back view theres no grain...And thats just me remembering off the top of my head. The LIKENESS between dvd and blu ray...they have grain The DIFFERENCE....Blu ray has grain but the characters and scenery looks better just with grain on them... I watched this movie alot...I watched it 2 times over the last week. I like it..But i also like movies like troy...gladiator...braveheart...kingdom of heaven... The cast they did for this movie was AMAZING...all the actors fit there parts I love the movie...I mean you can buy the movie ultraviolet (which sucks)) And get no grain and good picture...Or buy 300...great movie...With grain but even the guy that made it said he wanted it to have that feel not all clear... Thats just my opinion tho...I say rent it if your worried.. And i watched 300 on HD DVD and it wasnt that good Blu ray really stepped it up on this movie and the audio is great too. Dont let alot of people sway your judgement...Try it on for size see if you like.

03-21-2008, 05:55 AM	#13
smith1080p Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:4	Well maybe it was the player...I watched 300 on a xbox 360 hd dvd player then i watched king kong right after those was the only 2 my friend had...Maybe king kong outshined it because that was one amazing looking movie...But when i finally bought 300 on blu ray...not caring about the grain because i like the movie..I wouldnt use this movie to show off my blu ray player...but its not as bad as people say it is...I like the story and action in it. If there was a difference were blu rays version was better or different i would believe it...If not...then i just thought so myself. Either way try it out with a rent at the least.

03-21-2008, 06:01 AM	#14
saginawjuggalo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Saginaw, Michigan 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:2058 DVD collection:85 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:2	Your right... I forgot to mention it but the only difference you would precive would be between the players. Which could be very likely the case considering you are using the X-Box add-on. It's considered by many to be the wrost HD DVD player. and yes, King Kong kills 300 in the PQ department

03-21-2008, 06:02 AM	#15
smith1080p Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:4	Be nice to see King Kong on Blu Ray

03-21-2008, 06:11 AM	#19
smith1080p Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:4	Yeah i just got into blu ray 2 months ago...I couldnt decide which way to go and have alot of normal dvds....So i couldve got the normal dvd...went to hd dvd...got the hd dvd version...then hd dvd quits and have to get the blu ray version...TRIPLE DIP???? lol wonder how many people did that tho...Silly as it sounds...

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