Onkyo receiver's future lawsuit - Blu-ray Forum

yellowblanket · 03-25-2008, 03:52 PM

It is very likely? i hope not but seeing how these day people will sue over anything. This lawsuit would be huge with consumers blowing their speakers at the cause of defective products.

What is your opinion on this?

chasarms · 03-25-2008, 03:58 PM

There would only cause for a lawsuit if Onkyo makes no effort to make good on the issue. We have no reason at all to believe that they are going to attempt to duck this one.

jon s · 03-25-2008, 07:52 PM

and it may not even be Onkyo's fault. the issue is that the DTS decoder used by Onkyo and Yamaha (and possibly Pioneer) is faulty. Does that make them liable or the chip mfr? or maybe DTS themselves if they designed the software. remember, DTS HD Master was NOT finalized when Blu-Ray first came out. They might have rushed the product to the market w/o completely testing the software.

Tok · 03-26-2008, 05:51 PM

I think the problem is going to be that each company involved will finger point.

Ronny Katz over at AVS is already saying it is not a dts problem and the tracks on the suspect discs are 100% compliant with the spec.

I have a feeling that after these early units were introduced, dts made some modifications in the decoding code they provided to the AVR companies. With these newer units dts does not make a decoder but instead the decoding algorithm is just software running inside the receiver's CPU. Hopefully the units in question just require a firmware fix to be rid of the bug.

un4gvn94538 · 03-26-2008, 05:55 PM

a dts rep already handed off the issue to recevier mfg. on another site they have quietly made changes for future releases. im sure the receivers mfg will make good fixing the chips after they figure out exactly whats going on. still a little early.

03-25-2008, 03:52 PM	#1
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	Onkyo receiver's future lawsuit It is very likely? i hope not but seeing how these day people will sue over anything. This lawsuit would be huge with consumers blowing their speakers at the cause of defective products. What is your opinion on this?

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03-25-2008, 03:58 PM	#2
chasarms Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:St. Louis Blu-ray reviews: 1	There would only cause for a lawsuit if Onkyo makes no effort to make good on the issue. We have no reason at all to believe that they are going to attempt to duck this one.

03-25-2008, 07:52 PM	#3
jon s Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	and it may not even be Onkyo's fault. the issue is that the DTS decoder used by Onkyo and Yamaha (and possibly Pioneer) is faulty. Does that make them liable or the chip mfr? or maybe DTS themselves if they designed the software. remember, DTS HD Master was NOT finalized when Blu-Ray first came out. They might have rushed the product to the market w/o completely testing the software.

03-26-2008, 05:51 PM	#4
Tok Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 4K collection:1009 Blu-ray collection:1821 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:5	I think the problem is going to be that each company involved will finger point. Ronny Katz over at AVS is already saying it is not a dts problem and the tracks on the suspect discs are 100% compliant with the spec. I have a feeling that after these early units were introduced, dts made some modifications in the decoding code they provided to the AVR companies. With these newer units dts does not make a decoder but instead the decoding algorithm is just software running inside the receiver's CPU. Hopefully the units in question just require a firmware fix to be rid of the bug.

03-26-2008, 05:55 PM	#5
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	a dts rep already handed off the issue to recevier mfg. on another site they have quietly made changes for future releases. im sure the receivers mfg will make good fixing the chips after they figure out exactly whats going on. still a little early.

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