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timb2112 · 03-16-2008, 11:00 PM

With the new firmware upgrade, will the advanced audio codecs output over the 5.1 analog outputs, or will you still need a receiver that can decode via HDMI?

I have a BDP-S1 on the way and was curious. Thanks for the info.

timb2112 · 03-17-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by timb2112

With the new firmware upgrade, will the advanced audio codecs output over the 5.1 analog outputs, or will you still need a receiver that can decode via HDMI?

I have a BDP-S1 on the way and was curious. Thanks for the info.

Someone who may know.....PLEASE!

Robert Franklin · 03-18-2008, 12:51 AM

Yes, you will get the decoded sound from the analog outputs and the HDMI connection to a receiver that can decode LPCM!! Enjoy!!

JasonR · 03-18-2008, 01:25 AM

I thought the S1 was TrueHD over HDMI only?

I could be wrong...

taureantiger · 03-18-2008, 02:37 AM

I don't have the Sony BDP S1 player but the almost identical Pioneer BDP-HD1 player. Several Firmware versions ago, this player converts Dolby True HD to 5.1 PCM sound. Great Quality, but I wouldn't know how Dolby True HD sounds via a receiver that can decode it versus the player decoding it to PCM.

jsteinhauer · 03-18-2008, 01:48 PM

Yes. S1 will decode TrueHD to 5.1 PCM. It will not pass it undecoded to your receiver. You will have to set your player to PCM instead of Auto. DD+ should go either way.

jSchultz · 04-05-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by timb2112

With the new firmware upgrade, will the advanced audio codecs output over the 5.1 analog outputs, or will you still need a receiver that can decode via HDMI?

I have a BDP-S1 on the way and was curious. Thanks for the info.

I hate to bump the thread, but yes...the original question was whether or not TrueHD or DD+ could be done over 5.1 analogue...and yes, it can, it's what I'm doing right now.

BTBuck1 · 04-05-2008, 03:34 PM

this was activated on the bdp-s1 many firmware updates ago.

crackinhedz · 04-05-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonR

I thought the S1 was TrueHD over HDMI only?

that was for the S300.

JasonR · 04-05-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

that was for the S300.

Yeah, but I thought the S1 and S300 updates were identical. That is why Paid says the S300 got TrueHD when the S1 did.

crackinhedz · 04-05-2008, 09:48 PM

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Yeah, but I thought the S1 and S300 updates were identical. That is why Paid says the S300 got TrueHD when the S1 did.

The S1 got the update long ago (has been posted on the update page for some time now)...at least to my knowledge the 300 was recent.

JasonR · 04-05-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crackinhedz

The S1 got the update long ago (has been posted on the update page for some time now)...at least to my knowledge the 300 was recent.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=48

crackinhedz · 04-05-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonR

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=48

JasonR · 04-05-2008, 10:43 PM

Nice!

ClaytonMG · 04-05-2008, 10:44 PM

People using the analog outputs are probably getting the core Dolby tracks and thinking they're the TrueHD one. I know I was having issues figuring out which audio track I was listening to at first since it always says regular Dolby Digital when you press the audio button.

So in order to use the TrueHD tracks with the BDP-S1, you need:

1. A recievier that accepts audio from over HDMI

2. Set the BDP-S1 to PCM for the audio out

3. In the menu, select Dolby TrueHD. DO NOT PRESS THE AUDIO BUTTON TO GET TO THE TRUEHD TRACK!!! If you do this, the player seems to default back to the core instead of decoding the TrueHD track.

Hope this helps!

timb2112 · 04-06-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

People using the analog outputs are probably getting the core Dolby tracks and thinking they're the TrueHD one. I know I was having issues figuring out which audio track I was listening to at first since it always says regular Dolby Digital when you press the audio button.

So in order to use the TrueHD tracks with the BDP-S1, you need:

1. A recievier that accepts audio from over HDMI

2. Set the BDP-S1 to PCM for the audio out

3. In the menu, select Dolby TrueHD. DO NOT PRESS THE AUDIO BUTTON TO GET TO THE TRUEHD TRACK!!! If you do this, the player seems to default back to the core instead of decoding the TrueHD track.

Hope this helps!

I watched Spiderman 3 and selected Dolby TrueHD under audio options. I have the S1 connected to my Denon AVR-5805 via the 5.1 analog out of the S1. What am I listening to?

JasonR · 04-06-2008, 11:22 PM

Dolby Digital 5.1, according to Paid it is TrueHD over HDMI only.

timb2112 · 04-06-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

Yes. S1 will decode TrueHD to 5.1 PCM. It will not pass it undecoded to your receiver. You will have to set your player to PCM instead of Auto. DD+ should go either way.

There seems to be a lot of conflicting information on this.

JasonR · 04-06-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by paidgeek

Sorry to make this more complicated, but the S1 and S300 do not output lossless on the analog outputs. It seems natural that they would, but they don't. Internally decoded THD can only be output as LPCM over HDMI.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=48

He is our Sony Insider, I would listen to him over most others.

BTBuck1 · 04-07-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonR

Dolby Digital 5.1, according to Paid it is TrueHD over HDMI only.

I thought that was just on the bdp-s300?

I was almost sure the BDP-s1 did trueHD over 5.1 analog or HDMi, but just read DD no matter what.

however according to Paid, it's only via HDMI

Oh well, either one of those players are a clunky mess. And my bd-1400 runs circles around them speed & funtionality wise.

03-16-2008, 11:00 PM	#1
timb2112 Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Philadelphia Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray reviews:1	3.70...DolbyTruHD, Dolby Digital Plus on BDP S1 With the new firmware upgrade, will the advanced audio codecs output over the 5.1 analog outputs, or will you still need a receiver that can decode via HDMI? I have a BDP-S1 on the way and was curious. Thanks for the info.

03-18-2008, 02:37 AM	#5
taureantiger New Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Austin, TX	This Player converts Dolby True HD to 5.1 PCM via HDMI I don't have the Sony BDP S1 player but the almost identical Pioneer BDP-HD1 player. Several Firmware versions ago, this player converts Dolby True HD to 5.1 PCM sound. Great Quality, but I wouldn't know how Dolby True HD sounds via a receiver that can decode it versus the player decoding it to PCM.

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03-18-2008, 12:51 AM	#3
Robert Franklin Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Baltimore, MD 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:363	Yes, you will get the decoded sound from the analog outputs and the HDMI connection to a receiver that can decode LPCM!! Enjoy!!

03-18-2008, 01:25 AM	#4
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	I thought the S1 was TrueHD over HDMI only? I could be wrong...

03-18-2008, 01:48 PM	#6
jsteinhauer Gaming Moderator Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:120 Trading Score:66	Yes. S1 will decode TrueHD to 5.1 PCM. It will not pass it undecoded to your receiver. You will have to set your player to PCM instead of Auto. DD+ should go either way.

04-05-2008, 03:34 PM	#8
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	this was activated on the bdp-s1 many firmware updates ago.

04-05-2008, 10:43 PM	#14
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	Nice!

04-05-2008, 10:44 PM	#15
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	People using the analog outputs are probably getting the core Dolby tracks and thinking they're the TrueHD one. I know I was having issues figuring out which audio track I was listening to at first since it always says regular Dolby Digital when you press the audio button. So in order to use the TrueHD tracks with the BDP-S1, you need: 1. A recievier that accepts audio from over HDMI 2. Set the BDP-S1 to PCM for the audio out 3. In the menu, select Dolby TrueHD. DO NOT PRESS THE AUDIO BUTTON TO GET TO THE TRUEHD TRACK!!! If you do this, the player seems to default back to the core instead of decoding the TrueHD track. Hope this helps!

04-06-2008, 11:22 PM	#17
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	Dolby Digital 5.1, according to Paid it is TrueHD over HDMI only.

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