HDdvd fans getting desperate...?

[Dave Mack]

I posted this at AVS and almost got my head chewed off. The HDdvd fanboys there are ravenous!

"The HDdvd software forum is looking pretty ghosttown like tonite here at AVS. One thread *****ing to Universal about lack of titles and that same "The Descent has fake PIP!" crap again for like the fifth time like anyone there would really care. So The Descent encoded the movie twice. Once with a "fake PIP window" Whoopie-freaking-do. How are all those exclusive HDdvd only releases wowing everybody tonite? Oh yeah, there aren't a whole heckuva lot. Makes me feel better every day that I went blu. I don't give a damn about the "evil corporations" or the business practices. I want to watch some damn movies and BD is making me smile.
but what do I know...?

Wow, I posted this in a thread here a few minutes back and within like 5 minutes I had about 4-5 HDdvd zealots chewing my head off for my opinion! Damn, they must be gettin' nervous tonite! All defensive and nasty! Got my thread not only closed but completely removed!
My opinion. I am glad I went with BD. More titles coming. You don't like my opinion that I posted here in the BD forum you can sit on it and twirl.

They can start like, 5 threads a day saying that the PS3 sales are crap and it's a failure and BD is screwed and no problem. You post a thread here on friendly turf saying you're happy that BD is getting all these releases when HDdvd apparently seems sparse in comparison and it gets shut down...."


The mods there seem more pro HDdvd anways...

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by Dave Mack

They can start like, 5 threads a day saying that the PS3 sales are crap and it's a failure and BD is screwed and no problem. You post a thread here on friendly turf saying you're happy that BD is getting all these releases when HDdvd apparently seems sparse in comparison and it gets shut down...."

Heres some ammo for that:

New console reaches target faster than PlayStation 2
Sony Computer Entertainment America has announced that 1 million PS3 units were shipped across North America in the six weeks following launch - breaking the record previously set by PlayStation 2.
SCEA did not reveal the number of units sold through to consumers, but countered rumours that there is a surplus of stock in some areas by observing that "PS3 has been selling out at retail outlets across North America" since the console's November 17 launch.
It's this high consumer demand, according to Sony, which has driven PS3 to hit the 1 million mark in a shorter timeframe than both the original PlayStation and PS2.
"SCEA went to great lengths to help meet demand for PS3, including airlifting systems into North America on a weekly basis to ensure a steady stream of units were available to consumers throughout the holiday season," said SCEA boss Jack Tretton.
"The fact that we were able to reach the one-million mark faster than our top-selling platform, PS2, further validates the strength of the PlayStation brand and our belief that consumers are ready to experience true high-definition gaming."
According to Tretton, 2007 "will be about software and delivering innovative, new experiences and award-winning franchises to consumers", through both traditional retail channels and the PlayStation online network.
Sony originally said it would ship 2 million PS3 units to North America and Japan by the end of 2006, but Tretton later admitted that this figure was "more of a target" due to problems with the manufacturing process.
The number of PS3s shipped to Japan so far is not known, but it's thought that around 80,000 units were on shop shelves for launch day.


Original article here:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=22051

Failure...lol, yeah ok...I think NOT!!!!!

[Dave Mack]

Cool! They'll say "it's all a bunch of lies! You believe Sony?!?!" though...

[Blu-Light]

They are losing it real fast over there. I think alot of the die hards have really just packed it up and left. Some of the more vocal ones are not there anymore.

But then we have threads like this

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9399762

And I begin to feel sorry, just a bit. Nahh not really.

Looking forward to those fantasic new releases in that thread.

All I have to say is these people deserve the crap that is already beginning to happen. They drove me away from one of my favorite forums, now it will be fun to watch them squirm and wiggle as their beloved HD-DVD dies a slow and painful death.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Dave Mack

Cool! They'll say "it's all a bunch of lies! You believe Sony?!?!" though...

Yeah, after all the SEC has no problems with public companies lying to shareholders. None at all.

Gary

[Dave Mack]

had ANOTHER thread there removed tonite. Not closed and locked, mind you, REMOVED entirely. I wasn't negative. I wasn't BASHING and I wasn't even in the wrong forum. I was in the BD forum saying I was really glad that went with BD now because of all the new release announcements and I was surpised that HDdvd was so sparse. GONE...
That site is biased crap now. Wow. What BS...

[Jonalan34]

I am neutral and support both format HD DVD and Blu-ray. I own HD DVD player add-on, 36 HDDVD. I have been planning to get both formats since last year. Before I got first HD DVD, I had some hd dvd and Blu-ray wishlist, it was smaller wishlist. Today, I have about 200+ Blu-ray and HD DVD combine on my wishlist.

I am no longer buy many DVD movies, it will be very small addition of DVD movies this year and larger addition of Blu-ray and HD DVD movies.

Last month, I almost brought Little Man dvd verison at Best Buy, but I hold it off because I would get it on Blu-ray. I am glad that I wait it out so I can get one on Blu-ray instead of DVD.

I am awaiting for price of Blu-ray standalone to go down and have an ability to update the firmwire through internet connection and have some features that support interactive on Blu-ray discs.

Playstation 3 is only capable to do that to update firmwire and cost less than standalone player on market.

Cost of Playstation 3 is not issue.

Only thing I am concern is that can Playstation 3deliever the correct scale as 1080i, 1080p, 720p rather than downconvert to 480p and 720p.

I have been stand back and seen how they act and talk in negative way and bashing at each other last two months in another forums.
I know that it is small precentage of fanboys who is not neutral as I am.

Yes, I did read some forum that called Decent a fake PiP. I don't care if it is fake or not.

So, I am new to Blu-ray forum and I am not new to the Blu-ray disc format. I have aware of it and keep track of that format last 3 years. One of Things have not changed last 3 years for Blu-ray, that they have a greater storage 25gb and 50gb.

I will be happy to learn more about details on PS3 and how it work with 720p, and 1080i tv. I know that interaction on PS3 is more similar to PSP.
So, I have HDTV, Sony Bravia KDL-402010. It work beautiful with HD DVD add-on and it display at 1080i. I don't want end up with PS3 that can't get me to 1080i when I want to watch Blu-ray. I do not have enough information and I want to know if it stay at 1080i with my hdtv set.
I will use HDMI with PS3 when I get $599.99 high-end Playstation 3 in future.

Anyone can pm me or provide me some more information about PS3 with HDTV set.

I am crazy movie fan, formats don't matter to me. All I care about that I collect movies in High Definition.

Have a good day.


Don't worry about what HD DVD camp are talking against Blu-ray. Be yourself and be happy with what you have.

[theknub]

jonalan, welcome

yes, the ps3 can support 1080p, 1080i, and 720p. as of this moment, it doesn't upscale DVD's but a firmware update is supposed to correct this. lastly, any 720p issue you may have heard of directly relates to an issue with a few games and hd sets. there is a ps3 thread on here that can answer pretty much all of your questions.

[Jonalan34]

Originally Posted by theknub

jonalan, welcome

yes, the ps3 can support 1080p, 1080i, and 720p. as of this moment, it doesn't upscale DVD's but a firmware update is supposed to correct this. lastly, any 720p issue you may have heard of directly relates to an issue with a few games and hd sets. there is a ps3 thread on here that can answer pretty much all of your questions.

Thanks. I appreciate it.

I will try find more information about that for Blu-ray and games on Playstation 3 with 1080p, 1080i, and 720p issues in ps3 thread.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Jonalan34

I am crazy movie fan, formats don't matter to me. All I care about that I collect movies in High Definition.

Welcome. I'm sure you'll find the vast majority of the membership here share your love of film.

It's the hope and promise that Blu-ray is the format that can maximize the experience, which drives so many to support Blu-ray. It is about love of film. Not price is the only factor. Or hatred of some manufacturer.

Gary

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Jonalan

Don't worry about what HD DVD camp are talking against Blu-ray. Be yourself and be happy with what you have.

I couldn't be more thrilled, believe me. And I couldn't care less what any HD-DVD owner or zealot has to say about anything.

^^ I suspect I echo the sentiments shared by the vast majority of regulars here.

[theknub]

Originally Posted by JTK

I couldn't be more thrilled, believe me. And I couldn't care less what any HD-DVD owner or zealot has to say about anything.

^^ I suspect I echo the sentiments shared by the vast majority of regulars here.

maybe one or two

[Jonalan34]

Originally Posted by JTK

I couldn't be more thrilled, believe me. And I couldn't care less what any HD-DVD owner or zealot has to say about anything.

^^ I suspect I echo the sentiments shared by the vast majority of regulars here.

It is easier for me to just let them talk themselves (zealot) and they can run out of words and waste their time to speak out with their own anger.

There will be a lot of disappoint HD DVD diehard fanboys or zealots if it become betamax. These people never give Blu-ray a chance to experience the High Definition. They will be forced to shift to Blu-ray when HD DVD become betamax.

Alot of people who are neutral owners (Blu-ray and HD DVD) won't be disappointed because they will have 1 of 2 formats when one become standard.

I am willing to take risks to own both formats because I support both.

So,
All I can say that there are alot of impatient HD DVD fanboys in another forums. Because they want something now like Unverisal announcement of titles. I feel like slap their face and preach them to be patience and that they will announce release titles later this year. But I don't say anything, I just let them get lost of control on comments or news, like press panic button.

So, thank you everybody for welcome me into Blu-ray forum where we can share our love of film of High Definition.

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by Jonalan34

Only thing I am concern is that can Playstation 3deliever the correct scale as 1080i, 1080p, 720p rather than downconvert to 480p and 720p.

Off-topic response.

If your TV can only do 480p/i and 1080i, then choose these settings on your PS3. For BD movies, it'll output 1080i. For 720p games (like Resistance), it'll be 480p. For 1080p games (like the free GTHD), it'll be 1080i.

If your TV can do 480p/i, 720p/i and 1080i, set your PS3 to these settings. For BD movies and PS3 games, you'll be covered.


fuad

[Jonalan34]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Off-topic response.

If your TV can only do 480p/i and 1080i, then choose these settings on your PS3. For BD movies, it'll output 1080i. For 720p games (like Resistance), it'll be 480p. For 1080p games (like the free GTHD), it'll be 1080i.

If your TV can do 480p/i, 720p/i and 1080i, set your PS3 to these settings. For BD movies and PS3 games, you'll be covered.


fuad

Thanks for provide some detail.
That should help me on my decision of blu-ray player (Sony BD-1 or PS3) that I am planning to get later this year.

My tv can do 480p/i, 720p/i and 1080i.

[dialog_gvf]

The fight has started between the delusional zealots and the realists:

Brainwashing : 1 - Reasoning : 0

One guess which side the usual suspect fall.

Gary

[Dave Mack]

and more threads criticising HDdvd continue to be locked yet the BD and PS3 bashing ones stay open. amazing....

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

The fight has started between the delusional zealots and the realists:

Brainwashing : 1 - Reasoning : 0

One guess which side the usual suspect fall.

EEEK! That is one sorry thread! Talk about being brainwashed right in front of your eyes!

I'm so glad that I don't go on the HD-DVD side most of the time. What I will continue to do is encourage those who want to buy BD players and PS3s to come in and taste the water. No Kool-aid. Just water. Simplify.


fuad

[pretender2j]

I hate how people say stuff like, "You must be thinking : "what the hell is this guy talking about ?" or "what a wacko", but I personally couldn't care less. Just like I couldn't care less about the many flamers that will no doubt litter this thread with their garbage." as if predicting that people won't like what he is saying means he is somehow right.

As I have previously said I never looked at AVS until I looked here, and all the recent happenings really makes me wonder about all the people on there.

JB