All Movies In Dts-hdma? Yes Or No

[pdawg2003_03]

Would you love to see all the movies that are on blu-ray to have DTS-HDMA instead of Dolby TrueHD




I Would love to see it happen cause i have always been a big fan of DTS the sound clarity of the movies rocks my house and you can hear every bit detailed sounds that you didn't hear before.



All Sound on One blu-ray movie

DTS-HDMA, DolbyTrueHD & Uncompressed PCM

[JJ]

I could've sworn I've heard that they're all practically the same. Won't happen, your dream, but - hmm...I mean, on DVDs I loved DTS more, but that is because the mixing was done differently - on BRs I think Uncompressed PCM is the way to go, since that is actually the pure sound, but the compression used for TrueHD or DTS-HD MA is minimal.

Fitting all the audio codecs on a disc would take up a lot of GBs as well.

Oh, and how are you getting 1080p from your VX32L?! I had that TV way back when and it would only display 720.

[pdawg2003_03]

you may never know they could make a 120gb blu-ray disc and release all audio codecs all on one disc

[bageleaterkkjji]

all movies made by disney? yes pcm for everyone and better video too

[pdawg2003_03]

yes all movies done by Disney, Sony & Warner Brothers needs to be in DTS-HDMA

FOX, UNIVERSAL & LIONSGATE STUDIOS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAS DTS-HDMA ON THIER MOVIES

[BluPayne4400]

Originally Posted by pdawg2003_03

you may never know they could make a 120gb blu-ray disc and release all audio codecs all on one disc

No FN way their gonna do that. Dude we cant even get Warner to "muscle" up and stop giving us dolby digital Bd's yet. a 120GB Disk?

[Petra_Kalbrain]

I say yes... although I would settle for both DTS HD MA & Uncompressed LPCM.

I can't find any Dolby track that seems to offer the same oomph of depth as a DTS HD MA track. And I've tested both "supposedly exactly the same" DTS and TrueHD tracks with the +4Db equalization difference accounted for. DTS HD MA always sounds more real. TrueHD, although it sounds good, still sounds a bit flat and two dimensional.

[STARSCREAM]

Exactly my findings and feelings petra. I voted yes as well due to this. DTS-HDMA has such a nice soundstage.

[andyparhelia]

I'll go for DTS HD MA every time because not only is it an excellent HD audio codec, it also gives people with older receivers a nice upgrade to the 1.5mbps core.

[mrhonda2]

Also, all should be 7.1. With the 5.1 core everyone's a happy camper. When a disc is released lossy it kicks up a dust storm and that's how 5.1 instead of 7.1 feels. Plus it would futureproof anyone planning an upgrade.

[Big Daddy]

Every few days we get a similar post on this topic. It is really a waste of time. Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio give identical results. Any difference that you think you are hearing is due to channel volume differences. If they are level matched, they will be 100% identical. Of course, both have the advantage of taking less space on a disc than LPCM. As a result, you will see more Blu-ray releases in the future using these two audio codecs.

The reason one studio chooses one codec over another has to do with relationships and business deals. For example, Universal was a partial owner of Digital Theater System (DTS) in early 1990s when it was developed. That is the main reason they prefer DTS HD MA to Dolby TrueHD. Over the years, Sony has had a better relationship with Dolby than DTS. That is perhaps the main reason why they prefer Dolby True HD. Remember that initially PS3 could only do Dolby.

I believe all of you will benefit from reading this article in Home Entertainment magazine. A group of experts visited the Dolby and DTS headquarters and tested all the lossy and lossless audio codecs. They had a difficult time distinguishing between them.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I say yes... although I would settle for both DTS HD MA & Uncompressed LPCM.

I can't find any Dolby track that seems to offer the same oomph of depth as a DTS HD MA track. And I've tested both "supposedly exactly the same" DTS and TrueHD tracks with the +4Db equalization difference accounted for. DTS HD MA always sounds more real. TrueHD, although it sounds good, still sounds a bit flat and two dimensional.

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

Every few days we get a similar post on this topic. It is really a waste of time. Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio give identical results. Any difference that you think you are hearing is due to channel volume differences. If they are level matched, they are 100% identical. Of course, both have the advantage of taking less space on a disc than LPCM. As a result, you will see more Blu-ray releases in the future using these two audio codecs.

The reason one studio chooses one codec over another has to do with relationships and business deals. For example, Universal was a partial owner of Digital Theater System (DTS) in early 1990s when it was developed. That is the main reason they prefer DTS HD MA to Dolby TrueHD. Over the years, Sony has had a better relationship with Dolby than DTS. That is perhaps the main reason why they prefer Dolby True HD. Remember that initially PS3 could only do Dolby.

I believe all of you will benefit from reading this article in Home Entertainment magazine. A group of experts visited the Dolby and DTS headquarters and tested all the lossy and lossless audio codecs. They had a difficult time distinguishing between them.

Everyone has always said that any difference is due to the +4Db normalization that occurs with the DTS HD MA track (it's encoded to be 4 decibals louder)... and I'm not disputing that because my receiver actually shows the normalization +4Db on its display when a DTS HD MA track is initiated. And, as you can see in my post above, I already mentioned that I compensated for that variation by turning the TrueHD volume up +4Db. Even then there is still a difference to my ears. It's sounds more real on the DTS HD MA tracks. I know that they are "supposed" to be identical, but they aren't... and many people say the same thing.

[dobyblue]

As long as it's lossless and no DRC is used, I'm okay with PCM, TrueHD or dts-ma.

[broken81]

That would be great because I don't have an HDMI reciever yet and the 1.5mbps DTS core track is nice. Why doesn't Dolby make their core track 1.5mbps?

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by broken81

That would be great because I don't have an HDMI reciever yet and the 1.5mbps DTS core track is nice. Why doesn't Dolby make their core track 1.5mbps?

Probably so that they have a reason to claim that they aren't DTS! They are just

[pdawg2003_03]

Originally Posted by broken81

That would be great because I don't have an HDMI reciever yet and the 1.5mbps DTS core track is nice. Why doesn't Dolby make their core track 1.5mbps?

CAUSE DOLBY IS A WEAKER SOUND CODEC THAN DTS

[WickyWoo]

That would be great because I don't have an HDMI reciever yet and the 1.5mbps DTS core track is nice. Why doesn't Dolby make their core track 1.5mbps?

Probably because legacy DD decoders can only handle up to 640. Remember the core track is for universal compatibility, not for show

Everyone has always said that any difference is due to the +4Db normalization that occurs with the DTS HD MA track (it's encoded to be 4 decibals louder)... and I'm not disputing that because my receiver actually shows the normalization +4Db on its display when a DTS HD MA track is initiated. And, as you can see in my post above, I already mentioned that I compensated for that variation by turning the TrueHD volume up +4Db. Even then there is still a difference to my ears. It's sounds more real on the DTS HD MA tracks. I know that they are "supposed" to be identical, but they aren't... and many people say the same thing.

What title are you using? Very likely you aren't comparing apples to apples

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Probably because legacy DD decoders can only handle up to 640. Remember the core track is for universal compatibility, not for show



What title are you using? Very likely you aren't comparing apples to apples

I have over 200 Blu-rays, and everytime that I have encountered a setup menu with both (which I'll admit isn't that many) I have taken this method in comparing. Sorry I can't be more specific, but it's a lot of titles to remember all of their audio details about. Plus, my head is overflowing with training material for my new job. It's crunch time and this is the "make or break" point, so I have to keep my focus. Anyways, back on topic... And everytime it has been DTS by a landslide... Except for one title that literally was difficult to hear the difference, but there was still a difference.

And yes, I have both my PS3 and receiver setup properly. I spent the better part of a full week deeply researching every setting and all terminology of every setting available on my 805 to make sure that I was calibrating it properly. So, the tracks are coming through the exact same equalizing and amplification.

DTS is just always better.

EDIT: Even when I demo the values of Blu-ray to people I'll put on both a TrueHD track (with the +4Db difference accounted for) and then a DTS HD MA track without them knowing and they always say, "Woah, how come this one sounds so much more realistic?" Guess which one they are referring to?

[ryoohki]

Ins't the only movie with both on them is Top Gun and 3rd Kind?

If you want to compare you'll have to use the same movie otherwise you're comparing the Audio Mix..

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

Ins't the only movie with both on them is Top Gun and 3rd Kind?

If you want to compare you'll have to use the same movie otherwise you're comparing the Audio Mix..

I think that I have encountered a couple more than just those two titles. Besides, it couldn't possibly be the audio mixes if EVERY TrueHD track that I hear seems a bit flat. Here's the best way for me to explain it as I hear it with EVERY TrueHD track.

If '3:10 To Yuma' had a TrueHD track: In the scene at the end of the film where the train pulls into the station. Inside the station house you can hear the bottles rattling around on the shelves from the vibration of the train pulling in. With a TrueHD track I would hear "THE SOUND OF" bottles rattling on shelves. With the DTS HD MA track I always hear "BOTTLES RATTLING." It's a strange distinction, but it's the audio phenomenon comparison equivalent of looking at a picture of the Mona Lisa and looking at the actual framed painting of the Mona Lisa. One just seems to make you feel a sense of awe. And TrueHD always comes across as a copy of the audio and not the actual audio itself.

I hope that makes sense to everyone else. I tend to be quite eccentric with my similies/metaphors. People don't always clearly understand what I am trying to say.