Consoles will be extinct by 2020 - Blu-ray Forum

Nerdkiller likes BD · 07-24-2008, 07:42 PM

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=193884

WildTangent boss Alex St. John claims that the 7th generation of videogames will be the last. He even claims that he is right. Wow. And I thought it was PC gaming that was dying.

Psx0005 · 07-24-2008, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=193884

WildTangent boss Alex St. John claims that the 7th generation of videogames will be the last. He even claims that he is right. Wow. And I thought it was PC gaming that was dying.

Heh, and the USS Discovery was presumed to be lost near Jupiter in the year 2001.

stockstar1138 · 07-24-2008, 07:47 PM

what a crock, the 7th gen. console market is going to be bigger than the 6th gen most likely and PC gaming is on the decline.

Explain how consoles are going out.

Now if you are talking about consoles transforming into multimedia computers then i might agree that the console will die, but gaming will certianly be a focus in a MM hub.

Mikeblu · 07-24-2008, 07:50 PM

the only part of consoles thats dieing is the fact that they are exclusive for games

X-Ninja · 07-24-2008, 07:51 PM

I know one person who plays PC games and all he plays is counterstrike. Everyone else I know uses consoles. Heck, even my counterstrike friend has PS2. Consoles aren't going anywhere...

Charles3669 · 07-24-2008, 07:53 PM

Gaming now makes more money than music and movies per year. Until it goes from being a 50+ billion dollar industry to losing money consoles will die. But the trend of gaming is getting more and more popular so it doesnt look like that will happen anytime soon. Whoever said consoles will die is a moron.

Ippiki Okami · 07-24-2008, 08:07 PM

Every year a nut comes out and says the samething!

The only threat is making games/consoles to expensive for people to buy(Neo Geo)

david2189 · 07-24-2008, 08:09 PM

the problem i see with consoles is the price, these days theyre basically a £1000 pc being sold for £300 so theyre making massive losses..if consoles do die out thats the only reason i could see being for it

haushausman · 07-24-2008, 08:16 PM

What a turdnugget. So his guess is PC games will absorb consoles? How bout consoles absorbing the PC gaming market?? The PS3 is basically a personal computer right now... I can see the PS4 having all or more capabilities than its PC rivals when it is released.

And people like to game on their massive TVs. Not a small monitor or laptop screen.

The only thing I've heard is around 2020-2025 is video game consoles will use nanotechnology and the chips will be stored on contact lenses and your viewing screen is everything you see.

dereksworl · 07-24-2008, 08:16 PM

Boo!

. Consoles aren't going anywhere! and if they do i'll still have my PS3 or PS4 of 5 or whatever i have at that time.

dpomp · 07-24-2008, 08:20 PM

i think if anything consoles are getting bigger and not physically. i mean they are getting more popular. think about the ps2/gamecube/xbox. looking back, they were just machines kids used to play games on. now they're serious pieces of hardware that can do everything.

i don't think that consoles will cease to exist. it's just that they are becoming more similar to computers.

Pelican170 · 07-24-2008, 08:35 PM

That article is crap, he gives no real proof behind his claims..

bajor27 · 07-24-2008, 08:43 PM

Consoles aren't going anywhere. Not even going to bother with the article.

It's ridiculous what some people think up

becomingwater · 07-24-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=193884

WildTangent boss Alex St. John claims that the 7th generation of videogames will be the last. He even claims that he is right. Wow. And I thought it was PC gaming that was dying.

I think PC gaming will die quicker than console gaming. To get the latest game you need to upgrade your PC, which will cost and console will have the game ready to play

blu-dave · 07-24-2008, 08:50 PM

Although i would say the gaming industry is doing well atm!

Especially with the release of the Ati 4800 series, very high performance gaming has become cheap!

Blu-Ray Buckeye · 07-24-2008, 09:05 PM

Some people are haters. Some people just make bold proclamations to get attention or claim to be the first guy who said if they ever happen to get one right. This knob might fall in one of those camps.

Other folks like to chirp about convergence, which is largely accurate in the 90's, "Hey now, why isn't this lame, clunky PDA also a cell phone... and why is my big, ugly cell phone also a PDA?" Duh.

However consoles and PCs / laptops will coexist for a long, long time for a number of reasons:

1 - PC gaming is only for the hardcore these days because for most folks, the experience just sucks. Yeah the controls are "great" for FPS and certain RPGs... ok, but the screen is ****ing small not matter how you cut it, and playing hunched over at some desk is re-stinkin-tarded. People want to play while lounging on their couch or bed watching a giant freaking screen.

2 - laptop gaming is portable, and therefore perhaps more cozy than PC gaming, but otherwise inferior in all ways. In sum, all of the downside of #1 and then some... but portable.

3 - Consoles, though gaining in computing power, are going to lag behind PCs and laptops for a long time when it comes to true usability. Maybe they'll become very good web browsers, but laptops are just great that. Maybe you'll be able to do spreadsheets and presentations and such, but I really doubt it will work as well or as easily.

Maybe big-brick PCs specifically will die out, but laptops and all-in-one units are already pushing that trend independent of consoles.

Seeking_Alpha · 07-24-2008, 09:05 PM

I just built a $3000 desktop

I love playing games on my PC, racing sims especially. And I am looking forward to Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3

The main drawback of PC gaming is the enormous expense. But for those who can afford it it's great.

But still I don't think consoles are going anywhere fast. He's just trying to grab attention

J6P · 07-24-2008, 09:27 PM

I worked with St. John a bit a couple of jobs ago in the late '90s, and this is par for the course. He is an extremely sharp guy (he developed the DirectX API for Microsoft) so the hero worship he'd get at GDC or E3 back then was deserved, but he seemed to love the spotlight just as much as development. Eventually things soured at MS and he was out -- he even had to be escorted from the building we heard. Dramatic till the end.

I think he's just whipping up some publicity here. I doubt even he believes it.

Mouse · 07-24-2008, 09:44 PM

PC Gaming isn't going anywhere. All the old games get emulated on the PC so the PC is eternal. How many people have working original NES consoles? (I do) How many people use their PC to play old NES classics? (I do again) As PCs get faster they also become able to emulate the newer games. Then there are games like Oblivion that are SO much easier to play on the PC not to mention if you've got the right setup then games even look better on the PC as you can control the display settings and resolutions.

As for consoles ending at 7th generation? I doubt it. Besides, isn't Sony wanting to make the PS3 last 10 years? I wonder how that plays into this. There is a limit to how "Good" you can make graphics but maybe by 2020 or whatever they will make a "real" virtual reality like the Holo-deck on Star Trek.

ThePhantomOak · 07-24-2008, 11:18 PM

hahahah

Consoles went extinct in the '80s. Hell Video games went extinct in the 1980s. This guys crazy is about 4 decades late.

At least in the '80s they had some basis to make the claim. Now he is late to the party and all thats left is the clean up crew. Maybe there is some left over cake for him.

07-24-2008, 09:05 PM	#17
Seeking_Alpha Active Member Member since:Jul 2008	I just built a $3000 desktop I love playing games on my PC, racing sims especially. And I am looking forward to Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 The main drawback of PC gaming is the enormous expense. But for those who can afford it it's great. But still I don't think consoles are going anywhere fast. He's just trying to grab attention Last edited by Seeking_Alpha; 07-24-2008 at 09:35 PM.

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07-24-2008, 07:42 PM	#1
Nerdkiller likes BD Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Wrestling in Ireland. PSNetwork: Nerdkiller316PSN Nerds beaten up: Loads 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:880 Trading Score:1	Consoles will be extinct by 2020 http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=193884 WildTangent boss Alex St. John claims that the 7th generation of videogames will be the last. He even claims that he is right. Wow. And I thought it was PC gaming that was dying.

07-24-2008, 07:47 PM	#3
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	what a crock, the 7th gen. console market is going to be bigger than the 6th gen most likely and PC gaming is on the decline. Explain how consoles are going out. Now if you are talking about consoles transforming into multimedia computers then i might agree that the console will die, but gaming will certianly be a focus in a MM hub.

07-24-2008, 07:50 PM	#4
Mikeblu Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Trading Score:1	the only part of consoles thats dieing is the fact that they are exclusive for games

07-24-2008, 07:51 PM	#5
X-Ninja Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:North Bay, Ontario Posts: Over 1100.......... PSNetwork- Axecution Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:6	I know one person who plays PC games and all he plays is counterstrike. Everyone else I know uses consoles. Heck, even my counterstrike friend has PS2. Consoles aren't going anywhere...

07-24-2008, 07:53 PM	#6
Charles3669 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008	Gaming now makes more money than music and movies per year. Until it goes from being a 50+ billion dollar industry to losing money consoles will die. But the trend of gaming is getting more and more popular so it doesnt look like that will happen anytime soon. Whoever said consoles will die is a moron.

07-24-2008, 08:07 PM	#7
Ippiki Okami Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Syndicate HQ :D	Every year a nut comes out and says the samething! The only threat is making games/consoles to expensive for people to buy(Neo Geo)

07-24-2008, 08:09 PM	#8
david2189 Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:London, UK Blu-ray collection:183	the problem i see with consoles is the price, these days theyre basically a £1000 pc being sold for £300 so theyre making massive losses..if consoles do die out thats the only reason i could see being for it

07-24-2008, 08:16 PM	#9
haushausman Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Chicago Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews: 5	What a turdnugget. So his guess is PC games will absorb consoles? How bout consoles absorbing the PC gaming market?? The PS3 is basically a personal computer right now... I can see the PS4 having all or more capabilities than its PC rivals when it is released. And people like to game on their massive TVs. Not a small monitor or laptop screen. The only thing I've heard is around 2020-2025 is video game consoles will use nanotechnology and the chips will be stored on contact lenses and your viewing screen is everything you see.

07-24-2008, 08:16 PM	#10
dereksworl Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Around Home Theater Gallery:18 Trading Score:1	Boo! . Consoles aren't going anywhere! and if they do i'll still have my PS3 or PS4 of 5 or whatever i have at that time.

07-24-2008, 08:20 PM	#11
dpomp ₯ Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Texas PSN: dpomp131 Blu-ray collection:231 Trading Score:19	i think if anything consoles are getting bigger and not physically. i mean they are getting more popular. think about the ps2/gamecube/xbox. looking back, they were just machines kids used to play games on. now they're serious pieces of hardware that can do everything. i don't think that consoles will cease to exist. it's just that they are becoming more similar to computers.

07-24-2008, 08:35 PM	#12
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	That article is crap, he gives no real proof behind his claims..

07-24-2008, 08:43 PM	#13
bajor27 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:BC, Canada Blu-ray collection:1031 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:5	Consoles aren't going anywhere. Not even going to bother with the article. It's ridiculous what some people think up

07-24-2008, 08:50 PM	#15
blu-dave Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:England	Although i would say the gaming industry is doing well atm! Especially with the release of the Ati 4800 series, very high performance gaming has become cheap!

07-24-2008, 09:05 PM	#16
Blu-Ray Buckeye Power Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Virginia	Some people are haters. Some people just make bold proclamations to get attention or claim to be the first guy who said if they ever happen to get one right. This knob might fall in one of those camps. Other folks like to chirp about convergence, which is largely accurate in the 90's, "Hey now, why isn't this lame, clunky PDA also a cell phone... and why is my big, ugly cell phone also a PDA?" Duh. However consoles and PCs / laptops will coexist for a long, long time for a number of reasons: 1 - PC gaming is only for the hardcore these days because for most folks, the experience just sucks. Yeah the controls are "great" for FPS and certain RPGs... ok, but the screen is ****ing small not matter how you cut it, and playing hunched over at some desk is re-stinkin-tarded. People want to play while lounging on their couch or bed watching a giant freaking screen. 2 - laptop gaming is portable, and therefore perhaps more cozy than PC gaming, but otherwise inferior in all ways. In sum, all of the downside of #1 and then some... but portable. 3 - Consoles, though gaining in computing power, are going to lag behind PCs and laptops for a long time when it comes to true usability. Maybe they'll become very good web browsers, but laptops are just great that. Maybe you'll be able to do spreadsheets and presentations and such, but I really doubt it will work as well or as easily. Maybe big-brick PCs specifically will die out, but laptops and all-in-one units are already pushing that trend independent of consoles.

07-24-2008, 09:27 PM	#18
J6P Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:117 Blu-ray collection:270	I worked with St. John a bit a couple of jobs ago in the late '90s, and this is par for the course. He is an extremely sharp guy (he developed the DirectX API for Microsoft) so the hero worship he'd get at GDC or E3 back then was deserved, but he seemed to love the spotlight just as much as development. Eventually things soured at MS and he was out -- he even had to be escorted from the building we heard. Dramatic till the end. I think he's just whipping up some publicity here. I doubt even he believes it.

07-24-2008, 09:44 PM	#19
Mouse Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Texas, USA Blu-ray collection:83 DVD collection:116 Trading Score:1	PC Gaming isn't going anywhere. All the old games get emulated on the PC so the PC is eternal. How many people have working original NES consoles? (I do) How many people use their PC to play old NES classics? (I do again) As PCs get faster they also become able to emulate the newer games. Then there are games like Oblivion that are SO much easier to play on the PC not to mention if you've got the right setup then games even look better on the PC as you can control the display settings and resolutions. As for consoles ending at 7th generation? I doubt it. Besides, isn't Sony wanting to make the PS3 last 10 years? I wonder how that plays into this. There is a limit to how "Good" you can make graphics but maybe by 2020 or whatever they will make a "real" virtual reality like the Holo-deck on Star Trek.

07-24-2008, 11:18 PM	#20
ThePhantomOak Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Reno, NEVADA. "Battle Born"	hahahah Consoles went extinct in the '80s. Hell Video games went extinct in the 1980s. This guys crazy is about 4 decades late. At least in the '80s they had some basis to make the claim. Now he is late to the party and all thats left is the clean up crew. Maybe there is some left over cake for him.

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