What happened?!?! - Blu-ray Forum

ClaytonMG · 02-12-2007, 05:16 PM

So I had a bunch of Pre-Orders at DVDEmpire.com and they send me a bunch of messages today telling me that a bunch of movies aren't going to be available now. Which include:

Silence of the Lambs
Hannibal
Dances With Wolves
Dodgeball
Ice Age

Anyone know what happened to these?!

Chris Beveridge · 02-12-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

So I had a bunch of Pre-Orders at DVDEmpire.com and they send me a bunch of messages today telling me that a bunch of movies aren't going to be available now. Which include:

Silence of the Lambs
Hannibal
Dances With Wolves
Dodgeball
Ice Age

Anyone know what happened to these?!

Fox pulled them for an unknown reason. News of it started to make the rounds late last week. My guess is that since they were all mpeg2 discs and the recent round of releases hasn't garnered solid reviews in the PQ department that they're reworking them.

Deciazulado · 02-12-2007, 05:28 PM

Dances With Wolves was gonna be a BD-50. Maybe it'll be both cuts/ branching when it gets out?

ClaytonMG · 02-12-2007, 05:31 PM

Well better to wait and get it right than to release some crap just to get it out on the market. And that would explain why Mr. and Mrs. Smith is still being released (AVC on a BD-50)

goodstuff · 02-12-2007, 05:31 PM

Yep, just got those notices as well

JTK · 02-12-2007, 06:35 PM

Probably quality control. Get 'em done right the first time.

Disappointing now? Yes.

In the end:
It'll be worth it.

BTBuck1 · 02-12-2007, 06:38 PM

sh**, im buying a house...broke as a joke...i can definately wait!!!

ProvenFlipper · 02-12-2007, 07:30 PM

Well dances with wolves was supposed to be AVC on BD-50 as well, and that got pulled...

Back on topic, I can definately wait and let my wallet take a break. There will still be a plethora of titles to fulfill my urges.

goodstuff · 02-12-2007, 07:41 PM

Someone mentioned on another board that Fox is putting BD+ on their releases now.

dobyblue · 02-12-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

Probably quality control. Get 'em done right the first time.

Disappointing now? Yes.

In the end:
It'll be worth it.

Amen to that. These titles need to be sweet PQ - make everyone jealous who's not in the right camp.

Josh · 02-12-2007, 07:46 PM

Well, that sucks. I have already sold my DVDs of these movies, and now I have to wait even longer.

Thanos417 · 02-12-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by joshd2012

Well, that sucks. I have already sold my DVDs of these movies, and now I have to wait even longer.

My thoughts exactly, I now have huge holes in my movie collection...

Josh · 02-12-2007, 09:44 PM

Rumor Killed:

Quote:

First up this afternoon, a Blu-ray Disc update. There have been a few reports today that Fox and MGM have cancelled a bunch of their upcoming Blu-ray Disc titles. I spoke with a senior Fox rep a short time ago, and this is completely untrue. What's happening is that they're moving some dates around. Nothing is being cancelled per se. Some titles are moving up, some are being pushed back. There's just a bit of fluidity to the schedule due to authoring and replication issues, and it should all settle down again soon. I'm sure there are those hyping this as "the end of Blu-ray" online, but the reality is far from it. We'll post more details on the revised street dates when they're available.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

WriteSimply · 02-12-2007, 11:40 PM

Okay, this is my take at interpreting things. I believe this is also part of the PS3 effect.

These titles have been delayed. Eragon and Night At The Museum have been announced.

Apart from QC, authoring and replication issues, I believe Fox is dishing out new releases to entice PS3 people to get BDs instead of DVDs. Fox has been good with catalog releases, pumping them up with lots of extras on DVDs. On BDs, there's yet a BD that's fully loaded. Priming up new releases is rational: BD owners will not have owned it previously; and later on, Fox may/may not release another version with lots more extras.

For a short/long term gain, both consumer and studio benefits, I think.

fuad

blitz6speed · 02-12-2007, 11:40 PM

Very likely they are adding BD+ to the discs as well.

Gremal · 02-13-2007, 12:08 AM

Maybe they will produce the extended version of Dances with Wolves for blu-ray, and improve the content of the others in significant ways, too.

ps3andlovinit · 02-13-2007, 12:09 AM

Yes WriteSimply is bang on. This is a very good thing. We will buy both of these more recent theatrical releases. Kids loved the Eragon books and A Night at the Museum is supposed to be very good - we haven't seen it yet. Many of the delayed items I already have on DVD and wouldn't be buying them for quite some time...at least until the price drops.

Would you have rather have the new Casino Royale first or Dr .No?

See what he means. This is great news.

phloyd · 02-13-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshd2012

Rumor Killed:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

That post seems to have disappeared...!

shamus · 02-13-2007, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloyd

That post seems to have disappeared...!

Its still there.

shamus · 02-13-2007, 12:28 AM

The HD DVD guys are having a ball with this...http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=804600

02-12-2007, 05:16 PM	#1
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	What happened?!?! Fox/MGM titles pulled So I had a bunch of Pre-Orders at DVDEmpire.com and they send me a bunch of messages today telling me that a bunch of movies aren't going to be available now. Which include: Silence of the Lambs Hannibal Dances With Wolves Dodgeball Ice Age Anyone know what happened to these?! Last edited by Chris Beveridge; 02-12-2007 at 05:22 PM.

02-12-2007, 06:38 PM	#7
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	sh*, im buying a house...broke as a joke...i can definately wait!!! Last edited by GoldenRedux; 02-12-2007 at 07:53 PM. Reason: language*

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02-12-2007, 05:28 PM	#3
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1159 Blu-ray collection:7044 DVD collection:4040	Dances With Wolves was gonna be a BD-50. Maybe it'll be both cuts/ branching when it gets out?

02-12-2007, 05:31 PM	#4
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Well better to wait and get it right than to release some crap just to get it out on the market. And that would explain why Mr. and Mrs. Smith is still being released (AVC on a BD-50)

02-12-2007, 05:31 PM	#5
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	Yep, just got those notices as well

02-12-2007, 06:35 PM	#6
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	Probably quality control. Get 'em done right the first time. Disappointing now? Yes. In the end: It'll be worth it.

02-12-2007, 07:30 PM	#8
ProvenFlipper Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:335 Blu-ray collection:901 Trading Score:1	Well dances with wolves was supposed to be AVC on BD-50 as well, and that got pulled... Back on topic, I can definately wait and let my wallet take a break. There will still be a plethora of titles to fulfill my urges.

02-12-2007, 07:41 PM	#9
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	Someone mentioned on another board that Fox is putting BD+ on their releases now.

02-12-2007, 07:46 PM	#11
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	Well, that sucks. I have already sold my DVDs of these movies, and now I have to wait even longer.

02-12-2007, 11:40 PM	#14
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Okay, this is my take at interpreting things. I believe this is also part of the PS3 effect. These titles have been delayed. Eragon and Night At The Museum have been announced. Apart from QC, authoring and replication issues, I believe Fox is dishing out new releases to entice PS3 people to get BDs instead of DVDs. Fox has been good with catalog releases, pumping them up with lots of extras on DVDs. On BDs, there's yet a BD that's fully loaded. Priming up new releases is rational: BD owners will not have owned it previously; and later on, Fox may/may not release another version with lots more extras. For a short/long term gain, both consumer and studio benefits, I think. fuad

02-12-2007, 11:40 PM	#15
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	Very likely they are adding BD+ to the discs as well.

02-13-2007, 12:08 AM	#16
Gremal Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Daddyland Home Theater Gallery:49 Blu-ray collection:184	Maybe they will produce the extended version of Dances with Wolves for blu-ray, and improve the content of the others in significant ways, too.

02-13-2007, 12:09 AM	#17
ps3andlovinit Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007	Yes WriteSimply is bang on. This is a very good thing. We will buy both of these more recent theatrical releases. Kids loved the Eragon books and A Night at the Museum is supposed to be very good - we haven't seen it yet. Many of the delayed items I already have on DVD and wouldn't be buying them for quite some time...at least until the price drops. Would you have rather have the new Casino Royale first or Dr .No? See what he means. This is great news.

02-13-2007, 12:28 AM	#20
shamus Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Trading Score:25	The HD DVD guys are having a ball with this...http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=804600

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