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Old 02-13-2007, 02:21 AM   #1
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I just received the Feb 2007 electronic newsletter from Widescreen Review. Here is what appears to be new information. LG might be able to do a firmware update on the $1200 BH100 Super BLUE player so that it is a fully functional HD-DVD player with HDI. Quote “…they hinted that it might be a firmware updateable addition in the future-maybe.” I sure would not buy the LG BH100 until the firmware is updated. I will have to see it to believe it. This is more like a rumor since LG is not sure this can be done.

Sony plans on coming out with two new BLU-RAY standalone players this year. Both will support 1080P/24 with a HDMI 1.3. Both players will have Sony’s X.V.Color system which is really a form of XvYCC. These two BLU-RAY players can provide 1.8 times the amount of colors of sRGB. Right now the prototype players are called Sapphire 1 and Sapphire 2. Some time in 2007 these two Sony players are planned to be released with an official model name.
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They showed both of the Sony players at CES but no dates on when they are coming out.
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My guess is the two new Sony players will be formally introduced at CEDIA in September and available during the 4th quarter this year.
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I don't understand the expanded colourspace stuff.

After all, the movies are encoded with a colourspace in mind, so where are these new colours going to come from?

If they start encoding movies with a new colourspace, how will that affect the current install base?
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I don't understand the expanded colourspace stuff.

After all, the movies are encoded with a colourspace in mind, so where are these new colours going to come from?

If they start encoding movies with a new colourspace, how will that affect the current install base?
The expanded colors is not a new format for software. All BLU-RAY software is going to play on old and new equipment. To get the advantage of XvYCC you need both a BLU-RAY player and a display that supports the technology, HDMI 1.3 is a requirement. Sony’s KBL-70XBR3 supports X.V. Color which is Sony’s name for XvYCC. This question is a good question about the source material. I am not sure but, I think all BLU-RAY discs currently on the market might already have the advanced color range and due to existing equipment limitation we are not able to see the advanced natural colors. It is possible that some BLU-RAY studio source material might be limited in the number of colors do to the method used to encode the disc. This is a question that consumers need to start asking the BLU-RAY studios that press the discs because right now I don’t know the answer. I do know that the better the quality the source material the more shades of quality colors will show up on a display that supports this technology.
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ooooooo i love this subject . but i need to go out to hunt for food err i mean BDs err no ?I mean food yes that's it.

basically, unless they have a secret piggyback scheme way to add the extra gamut/depth color (the HDMI 1.3 spec allowing for that?) (old color = core color, etc), well what they would do is encode the new color (record it as usual) but while looking at it on new deeper gamut monitors. What you would see on your normal-color-gamut monitor when correctly calibrated then would probably be an image that looks less saturated on most of its objects (except the truly saturated objects) and maybe some of the hues might be a little askew, and you could compensate boosting the color up and playing with the tint to make it look closer to what it'd look like on a true full gamut monitor. Hey we've been doing that for years in NTSC-land, where most CRT tvs didn't have as saturated primaries as the SMPTE "C" primaries video transfers were monitored into (not to mention the true NTSC primaries not seen since the early RCA days) . Now we're getting all this LCDs and etc that have better fluorescents and filters, and state specs like 90% color (means 90% the gamut of NTSC primaries. Professional CRT monitors, and LCD sRGB HDTV monitors, just reach about 60-70% NTSC. The other day I saw info about one that had 110% NTSC. That TV would be better than a Technicolor print!

Color, the last frontier. These are the voyages of the USS Decibluray. It's mission, to go where bold colors haven't gone before.


Well I need to go to get some Bluraylithium crystals. Or was it food?Where's my list?

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PAL/EBU = 66% NTSC, 36% Lab
sRGB/HDTV = 65% NTSC, 35% Lab
SMPTE "C" = 59% NTSC, 32% Lab
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