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BIGLAD · 07-30-2008, 10:30 PM

Is blu ray the last optical media or can it be bettered?

SkullPhyre · 07-30-2008, 10:32 PM

Something will come along eventually 10-15 years.

Blu-ray Fanatic · 07-30-2008, 10:36 PM

I've been thinking about that for a long time. What will beat blu-ray? What will the next format be called? Whats after HDTV? And so on.......

un4gvn94538 · 07-30-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

I've been thinking about that for a long time. What will beat blu-ray? What will the next format be called? Whats after HDTV? And so on.......

holodeck

alphadec · 07-30-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGLAD

Is blu ray the last optical media or can it be bettered?

I don't think there will come something that can beat optical media.

smiley · 07-30-2008, 10:45 PM

There are several formats being devoped:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_optical_data_storage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein-coated_disc
Are a couple. Not to mention what hasn't even been thought about yet.

red_5ive · 07-30-2008, 10:56 PM

This is the end. Optical media is flat. If you sail to the edge, you will fall off. There is nowhere else to go.

Ranger-R · 07-30-2008, 10:59 PM

Hey lets not hold back the human race,, I say there's technology out there that would make the average person shart themselves.

Clark Kent · 07-30-2008, 11:08 PM

I think there will be another physical format for home video, but I'm not sure what form it will take. I think we are hitting the limits of optical media but frankly the alternatives have not come down in price as fast as I thought.

bajor27 · 07-30-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

holodeck

Darn. You stole my answer

Blu Titan · 07-30-2008, 11:26 PM

Blu-ray will last a zillion years.

Petra_Kalbrain · 07-30-2008, 11:55 PM

That's a tough question to answer for two reasons.

#1. Full HD downloads are going to be nipping at the heels of consumers somewhere in the next 10 years. That could be the deal breaker for physical media.

#2. Many people will see too many disadvantages to download storage and will want to continue collecting physical media (I know that I will). And this will continue to create a demand for physical media.

Although my opinion has a very heavy teeter-totter "back and forth" arguement to it, my personal guess is going to be that 1 more form of physical media will exist. That physical media will be able to produce the full 4K resolution of the original film print. But, the question remains, "will there be TVs and projectors able to output that resolution in order to enjoy the quality?"

DarkClown · 07-31-2008, 12:48 AM

Jacking in?
you know, like in the Matrix.

Johnny Vinyl · 07-31-2008, 12:49 AM

Here is my humble opinion.

1. Blu-ray is certainly not the ultimate. I think it's only a taste of what can be expected down the road. And that day will surely happen!

2. Physical media will always be around. It may not be the primary source of movies and music down the road, but it will always be around. It may stop being mass-produced and instead be a commodity that is offered on-demand and produced by our inevitably far more reliable computer systems in the future.

There are so many arguments about this issue in the media and on forums such as this, but there isn't a definative answer. And that's because there can't be one. It's all conjecture. But I have great faith in the capacity of the human mind to expand beyond the norm and seek out new and better ways of producing the next best thing.

Right now Blu-ray is the ultimate for me and I'm enjoying the experience. I'm enjoying upgrading and tweaking my system and buying (and renting) movies. I enjoy inviting my friends over for a "night at the movies"...it's wonderful!

Blu-ray Fanatic · 07-31-2008, 01:14 AM

Why can't they just make unbeatable, indestructible, and ageless technology so that we don't have to update every 5-10 years??????

Canada · 07-31-2008, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

That's a tough question to answer for two reasons.

#1. Full HD downloads are going to be nipping at the heels of consumers somewhere in the next 10 years. That could be the deal breaker for physical media.

#2. Many people will see too many disadvantages to download storage and will want to continue collecting physical media (I know that I will). And this will continue to create a demand for physical media.

physical media will be able to produce the full 4K resolution of the original film print. But, the question remains, "will there be TVs and projectors able to output that resolution in order to enjoy the quality?"

How much will a 4K TV or Projector cost

!

threenine · 07-31-2008, 05:55 AM

The delivery mechanism and the resolution of any future format are separate issues.

First off, I personally hope that physical media lives long and prospers. I don't think HD downloads make any sense at all. I think they're a waste of bandwidth and the quality suffers drastically. If anyone thinks that the American internet providers are up to the task of delivering very much more bandwidth in the future, you're sadly mistaken. We're already looking at download caps down the road. Having a little plastic disc that holds 50gb is fairly compelling, and future formats promise to deliver even more storage. Besides, I'd like to hold something in my hand when I spend a fortune on it.

Secondly, there is such a thing as a 4k monitor, a Sapphire 56" model. It costs just south of $60,000 and is meant for corporations who apparently need that sort of resolution. I, however, question the need for that much resolution. Would there even be a benefit to 4k at the consumer level? I'm personally fine with a decent 720p lcd. And at 3840x2160, I'll be that much more paranoid about dead pixels, so no thanks.

MOONPHASE · 07-31-2008, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Why can't they just make unbeatable, indestructible, and ageless technology so that we don't have to update every 5-10 years??????

sounds great but we dont have the technology for that yet and im sure these companies probably havent even thought of how that can be possible on what will need to be done to make that happen

DarkClown · 08-01-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

sounds great but we dont have the technology for that yet and im sure these companies probably havent even thought of how that can be possible on what will need to be done to make that happen

Even if the technology did exist, where is the profit motive in giving you the absolute best today? "They" want you to upgrade every 5 - 10 years. That is basic business theory. Keep you coming back for more.

micks_address · 08-01-2008, 10:58 AM

i think for home use, at least home tv use.. Blu-ray is sufficient.. maybe if your talking huge screens you might want more than 1080p.. but is it really going to be noticable on 40" screens? my wish would be that all movies can look as good as the top transfers on blu-ray... i hate watching some films that arent much better than their dvd counterparts.. it defeats the purpose of using high def in the first place.. so if they could make strides in improving picture quality for existing./older films.. thats where my money would go

07-31-2008, 05:55 AM	#17
threenine Banned Member since:Jul 2008	The delivery mechanism and the resolution of any future format are separate issues. First off, I personally hope that physical media lives long and prospers. I don't think HD downloads make any sense at all. I think they're a waste of bandwidth and the quality suffers drastically. If anyone thinks that the American internet providers are up to the task of delivering very much more bandwidth in the future, you're sadly mistaken. We're already looking at download caps down the road. Having a little plastic disc that holds 50gb is fairly compelling, and future formats promise to deliver even more storage. Besides, I'd like to hold something in my hand when I spend a fortune on it. Secondly, there is such a thing as a 4k monitor, a Sapphire 56" model. It costs just south of $60,000 and is meant for corporations who apparently need that sort of resolution. I, however, question the need for that much resolution. Would there even be a benefit to 4k at the consumer level? I'm personally fine with a decent 720p lcd. And at 3840x2160, I'll be that much more paranoid about dead pixels, so no thanks. Last edited by threenine; 07-31-2008 at 05:58 AM. Reason: grammar

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07-30-2008, 10:30 PM	#1
BIGLAD Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Houghton-Le-Spring Blu-ray collection:1024	Is blu-ray? Is blu ray the last optical media or can it be bettered?

07-30-2008, 10:32 PM	#2
SkullPhyre Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Portland, Oregon Blu-ray collection:184	Something will come along eventually 10-15 years.

07-30-2008, 10:36 PM	#3
Blu-ray Fanatic Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Antonio Blu-ray reviews:1	I've been thinking about that for a long time. What will beat blu-ray? What will the next format be called? Whats after HDTV? And so on.......

07-30-2008, 10:45 PM	#6
smiley Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Barron, WI Blu-ray collection:144	There are several formats being devoped: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_optical_data_storage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein-coated_disc Are a couple. Not to mention what hasn't even been thought about yet.

07-30-2008, 10:56 PM	#7
red_5ive Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The 'state' of Southern California Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:364 Blu-ray collection:996 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	This is the end. Optical media is flat. If you sail to the edge, you will fall off. There is nowhere else to go.

07-30-2008, 10:59 PM	#8
Ranger-R Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Washington Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:1808 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:80	Hey lets not hold back the human race,, I say there's technology out there that would make the average person shart themselves.

07-30-2008, 11:08 PM	#9
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	I think there will be another physical format for home video, but I'm not sure what form it will take. I think we are hitting the limits of optical media but frankly the alternatives have not come down in price as fast as I thought.

07-30-2008, 11:26 PM	#11
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	Blu-ray will last a zillion years.

07-30-2008, 11:55 PM	#12
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	That's a tough question to answer for two reasons. #1. Full HD downloads are going to be nipping at the heels of consumers somewhere in the next 10 years. That could be the deal breaker for physical media. #2. Many people will see too many disadvantages to download storage and will want to continue collecting physical media (I know that I will). And this will continue to create a demand for physical media. Although my opinion has a very heavy teeter-totter "back and forth" arguement to it, my personal guess is going to be that 1 more form of physical media will exist. That physical media will be able to produce the full 4K resolution of the original film print. But, the question remains, "will there be TVs and projectors able to output that resolution in order to enjoy the quality?"

07-31-2008, 12:48 AM	#13
DarkClown Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:7	Jacking in? you know, like in the Matrix.

07-31-2008, 12:49 AM	#14
Johnny Vinyl Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:At the crossroad of Analogue Dr & 2CH Ave Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:205 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	Here is my humble opinion. 1. Blu-ray is certainly not the ultimate. I think it's only a taste of what can be expected down the road. And that day will surely happen! 2. Physical media will always be around. It may not be the primary source of movies and music down the road, but it will always be around. It may stop being mass-produced and instead be a commodity that is offered on-demand and produced by our inevitably far more reliable computer systems in the future. There are so many arguments about this issue in the media and on forums such as this, but there isn't a definative answer. And that's because there can't be one. It's all conjecture. But I have great faith in the capacity of the human mind to expand beyond the norm and seek out new and better ways of producing the next best thing. Right now Blu-ray is the ultimate for me and I'm enjoying the experience. I'm enjoying upgrading and tweaking my system and buying (and renting) movies. I enjoy inviting my friends over for a "night at the movies"...it's wonderful!

07-31-2008, 01:14 AM	#15
Blu-ray Fanatic Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Antonio Blu-ray reviews:1	Why can't they just make unbeatable, indestructible, and ageless technology so that we don't have to update every 5-10 years??????

08-01-2008, 10:58 AM	#20
micks_address Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Dublin Blu-ray collection:156 Trading Score:2	i think for home use, at least home tv use.. Blu-ray is sufficient.. maybe if your talking huge screens you might want more than 1080p.. but is it really going to be noticable on 40" screens? my wish would be that all movies can look as good as the top transfers on blu-ray... i hate watching some films that arent much better than their dvd counterparts.. it defeats the purpose of using high def in the first place.. so if they could make strides in improving picture quality for existing./older films.. thats where my money would go

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