1080p BD vs. 1080i HD TV - Blu-ray Forum

DarthGymRat · 08-18-2008, 09:59 AM

I recently picked up a Sony BDP-S350 and watched National Treasure 2. I expected the video of the movie to look as good or better than what I have seen on the HD News shows or ESPN HD or Discovery HD, but the video just didn't have the same crisp almost 3D quality. Is this my eyes playing tricks or was I expecting something that just isn't there?

Any insight into this phenomenon would be greatly appreciated!

Chris

arush5268d · 08-18-2008, 11:41 AM

The BD picture should be superior to what you see on cable channels. Have you calibrated your TV with the Sony Blu-ray player?

Barbie-Shrimp · 08-18-2008, 02:19 PM

Yeah, doesn't make sense to me either. You should see a tremendous difference. Unless you're complaining about film grain (I haven't seen that particular movie, so I wouldn't know if it's grain-heavy), I don't see why 1080i television broadcasts would look better. I personally think 720p can look way better than 1080i depending on the content, but they both pale in comparison to true 1080p from everything I've experienced.

arush5268d · 08-18-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie-Shrimp

Yeah, doesn't make sense to me either. You should see a tremendous difference. Unless you're complaining about film grain (I haven't seen that particular movie, so I wouldn't know if it's grain-heavy), I don't see why 1080i television broadcasts would look better. I personally think 720p can look way better than 1080i depending on the content, but they both pale in comparison to true 1080p from everything I've experienced.

Actually, now that you mention it I think that NT2 did have a lot of grain. Not as much as 300...but it was definately very noticeable.

WriteSimply · 08-18-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthGymRat

I recently picked up a Sony BDP-S350 and watched National Treasure 2. I expected the video of the movie to look as good or better than what I have seen on the HD News shows or ESPN HD or Discovery HD, but the video just didn't have the same crisp almost 3D quality. Is this my eyes playing tricks or was I expecting something that just isn't there?

There is a difference between anything shot on HD video and 35mm film. Video, HD or SD is harsh. 35mm is more graceful.

Take notice of movies and TV dramas that you see on the HD channels. They should look like BD movies, sans the extra detail and lossless sound.

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DarthGymRat · 08-19-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by arush5268d

The BD picture should be superior to what you see on cable channels. Have you calibrated your TV with the Sony Blu-ray player?

I have not done any calibration to the BD player. What is the best tool to do that?

DarthGymRat · 08-19-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by arush5268d

Actually, now that you mention it I think that NT2 did have a lot of grain. Not as much as 300...but it was definately very noticeable.

So does "film grain" give a BD movie a soft quality?

DarthGymRat · 08-19-2008, 09:55 AM

I guess I expected the sharp crispness that I see on discovery HD. Is there a good reference BD to help me?

Iceman 21 · 08-23-2008, 01:05 AM

How do cable/satilite copany's brodcast a 1080i movie that hasn't been released on blu-ray yet?

My_Two_Cents · 08-23-2008, 01:13 AM

Since you probably have your BD player and your HD cable/sat box hooked up to different inputs on your set, you may be looking at different picture settings, also. This would go back to calibration.

Deciazulado · 08-23-2008, 04:31 AM

60 fields per second HDTV (60i) looks more alive than 24 frame per second (24p) film. Also, film images tend to have softer, downwards sloping sharpness while TV video images tend to have a harder edged one.

Clark Kent · 08-26-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthGymRat

I guess I expected the sharp crispness that I see on discovery HD. Is there a good reference BD to help me?

Check out something like Planet Earth on Blu-ray. It will have the video look you are looking for. A movie shot on HD video would be something like Crank.

DIY_HD · 08-29-2008, 08:43 AM

Did you hook up the S350 with an HDMI cable or component video cable? When I first got HD cable, they used a component video cable (4 connectors) which is analog. Still better than SD, but HDMI (digital) is way better. How is your cable/satellite box connected to your TV? If you have that hooked up via HDMI and the S350 using component video, that would explain the difference.

08-18-2008, 09:59 AM	#1
DarthGymRat New Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:1	1080p BD vs. 1080i HD TV I recently picked up a Sony BDP-S350 and watched National Treasure 2. I expected the video of the movie to look as good or better than what I have seen on the HD News shows or ESPN HD or Discovery HD, but the video just didn't have the same crisp almost 3D quality. Is this my eyes playing tricks or was I expecting something that just isn't there? Any insight into this phenomenon would be greatly appreciated! Chris

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08-18-2008, 11:41 AM	#2
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	The BD picture should be superior to what you see on cable channels. Have you calibrated your TV with the Sony Blu-ray player?

08-18-2008, 02:19 PM	#3
Barbie-Shrimp Expert Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Grand Rapids, MI Blu-ray collection:45	Yeah, doesn't make sense to me either. You should see a tremendous difference. Unless you're complaining about film grain (I haven't seen that particular movie, so I wouldn't know if it's grain-heavy), I don't see why 1080i television broadcasts would look better. I personally think 720p can look way better than 1080i depending on the content, but they both pale in comparison to true 1080p from everything I've experienced.

08-19-2008, 09:55 AM	#8
DarthGymRat New Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:1	I guess I expected the sharp crispness that I see on discovery HD. Is there a good reference BD to help me?

08-23-2008, 01:05 AM	#9
Iceman 21 Member Member since:Aug 2008	How do cable/satilite copany's brodcast a 1080i movie that hasn't been released on blu-ray yet?

08-23-2008, 01:13 AM	#10
My_Two_Cents Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Wherever I may roam.... Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:4	Since you probably have your BD player and your HD cable/sat box hooked up to different inputs on your set, you may be looking at different picture settings, also. This would go back to calibration.

08-23-2008, 04:31 AM	#11
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1159 Blu-ray collection:7044 DVD collection:4040	60 fields per second HDTV (60i) looks more alive than 24 frame per second (24p) film. Also, film images tend to have softer, downwards sloping sharpness while TV video images tend to have a harder edged one.

08-29-2008, 08:43 AM	#13
DIY_HD Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Atlanta, GA Home Theater Gallery:21 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:88 DVD collection:126 Blu-ray reviews:2	Did you hook up the S350 with an HDMI cable or component video cable? When I first got HD cable, they used a component video cable (4 connectors) which is analog. Still better than SD, but HDMI (digital) is way better. How is your cable/satellite box connected to your TV? If you have that hooked up via HDMI and the S350 using component video, that would explain the difference.

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