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Old 09-11-2016, 07:04 PM   #1
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Default The 2D presentation on 3D disc - Is it 1080p?

Why is there a separate 2D Disc in 3D combo packs? All of my 3D discs seemingly play fine in 2D on my non-3D player and television. Is the 3D disc fully converting to 1080p in 2D when showing just the left or right eye view?
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Why is there a separate 2D Disc in 3D combo packs? All of my 3D discs seemingly play fine in 2D on my non-3D player and television. Is the 3D disc fully converting to 1080p in 2D when showing just the left or right eye view?
2D on a seperate disc to make it easier for consumers who may not know how to shift 3D to 2D. When you have the TV change the image, it is still 1080p but you are relying on the TV to display the proper image.

Having a seperate 2D option even on the same disc makes sure it is displayed properly.
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Yes it is, it's 1080 for each eye
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What player and TV are you using? If I try to play most 3D discs on a 2D TV or player I get an error message.
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Cheapo LG player on a non-smart LG plasma.
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Cheapo LG player on a non-smart LG plasma.
Any special settings on the player that may not be on other players?
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Why is there a separate 2D Disc in 3D combo packs? All of my 3D discs seemingly play fine in 2D on my non-3D player and television. Is the 3D disc fully converting to 1080p in 2D when showing just the left or right eye view?
A lot of your discs are specifically authored to allow for 2D playback (Black Lagoon, Dial M, Coraline, House of Wax) while others are locked out for 2D playback on non-3D equipment...for most other people, anyways.

Another reason for the separate 2D is to include the special features. The MVC encoding for 3D takes up more room on a disc than a standard AVC encode, so if the studios aren't going for the single-disc 2D/3D option (which you see usually for short-ish movies) then they go for 3D barebones and 2D + extras.
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Sometimes the 3D disc is authored specifically to boost brightness to compensate for the 3D glasses.

If a 3D hybrid disc is authored, one of the following two results will happen. One is a 3D video that's too dim, or a 2D that's over saturated. A separate 3D disc is actually a good idea.
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Yes, I think that as much as anything (plus the use of floating windows, see the Civil War thread) also puts the studios off of the 2D/3D playback authoring.
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Slightly off-topic, but on a 3D-capable player, I've figured out a (probably well-known) workaround to play 3D-only discs on a 2D-only display (even if the disc is required to play in 3D only). All I have to do is switch my Oppo BDP-103 to "Forced" 3D output, then start the disc, and switch the 3D setting back to "Off", after which the discs play entirely in 2D. This works well for Disney-authored 3D discs, because the starting Disney logo is always 2D, so I can pause it there, and view the setup menu. Any 3D picture is a black screen with audio only.

I only just recently realized this, and it may only work because I have a player like the Oppo and/or a 3D-capable A/V receiver, but it means I can check out and watch the AVC left eye of those pesky 3D-only discs , which is nice.
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Sometimes the 3D disc is authored specifically to boost brightness to compensate for the 3D glasses.

If a 3D hybrid disc is authored, one of the following two results will happen. One is a 3D video that's too dim, or a 2D that's over saturated. A separate 3D disc is actually a good idea.
2D that is oversaturated, no such thing! There are many 3D blurays that are undersaturated though. As well many titles as stated have a lowered gamma for increased brightness.

I have to state I actually prefer 3D on the same disc and the transfer will be the same.

Many 3D titles are washed out due to decreased saturation or poor black levels. Not a fan of the monochromatic appearance.
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