Xbox question - Blu-ray Forum

jamclaur · 09-23-2008, 03:18 AM

Those go here right?

Anyway. I don't think this has been discussed, and if it has it wasn't in a forum that I found. BUT... I was wondering if you guys thought the Xbox 3 would use Blu-rays...

They CAN'T make Xbox 3 and still use DVDs. I wonder what their plan will be. Any thoughts?

xtop · 09-23-2008, 03:19 AM

it'll use blu-ray

/thread

jamclaur · 09-23-2008, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtop

it'll use blu-ray

/thread

that's all I was wondering. No big thoughts required... lol.

xtop · 09-23-2008, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamclaur

that's all I was wondering. No big thoughts required... lol.

lol.

well to go on a bit more here..they would love to ignore blu-ray and be all digital, but its clearly way too early for that, so they'll be forced to have a disc drive again. and unless some huge breakthrough shows up soon (very unlikely), they'll have to stick a blu-ray drive in there.

jamclaur · 09-23-2008, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xtop

lol.

well to go on a bit more here..they would love to ignore blu-ray and be all digital, but its clearly way too early for that, so they'll be forced to have a disc drive again. and unless some huge breakthrough shows up soon (very unlikely), they'll have to stick a blu-ray drive in there.

I dream for that day...

U4K61 · 09-23-2008, 03:47 AM

I read somewhere the development cycle of a game console is about five years. I can't imagine when Xbox 3 comes out, it being DVD based and pushing that format for another 5 years. Suppose it's released in 2010, then it's DVD gaming through 2015. Can't see it happening.

Forrestandjen07 · 09-23-2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Ruchman

I read somewhere the development cycle of a game console is about five years. I can't imagine when Xbox 3 comes out, it being DVD based and pushing that format for another 5 years. Suppose it's released in 2010, then it's DVD gaming through 2015. Can't see it happening.

really?

even tho Microsoft loves to use cheap hardware, you cant see them sticking with dvd?

jamclaur · 09-23-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrestandjen07

really?

even tho Microsoft loves to use cheap hardware, you cant see them sticking with dvd?

I think they'd loose their fanboys if they did another DVD run. No high-def? Pssht!

plowmanjoe · 09-23-2008, 05:20 AM

when are the next consoles approx. going to be out? or when are the concepts even being thought out?

ZackL · 09-23-2008, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe

when are the next consoles approx. going to be out? or when are the concepts even being thought out?

No. Don't even think about it right now.

Grim Reaper · 09-23-2008, 05:33 AM

i dont think they wont let MS use the Blu-Ray drive for the next xbox. MS will just kill it. just like they did with the HD-DVD format.

jamclaur · 09-23-2008, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by plowmanjoe

when are the next consoles approx. going to be out? or when are the concepts even being thought out?

The PS3 should be going strong until AT LEAST 2015. I can't see it being replaced before then.

The 360 will be replaced, IMO, in 3-5 years.

xtop · 09-23-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamclaur

The PS3 should be going strong until AT LEAST 2015. I can't see it being replaced before then.

The 360 will be replaced, IMO, in 3-5 years.

xbox 3 in 2011, ps4 and new nintendo in 2012

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i dont think they wont let MS use the Blu-Ray drive for the next xbox. MS will just kill it. just like they did with the HD-DVD format.

camper · 09-23-2008, 12:32 PM

I suspect a BD drive in a next gen Xbox is a done deal, or at the very least a reasonable expectationo. The only way I can see them going DVD, is if it's for backwards compatibility to the 360 and the games are loaded onto some sort of flash ROM or something like that (think USB drive, memory cards, etc) for distribution. With the new Oct/Nov update for the 360 allowing for HDD installs, the new XBox may utilize that functionality quite a bit.

The positives for flash ROM distribution is that it's virtually noiseless, doesn't have the space limitations of optical media (50gigs on a BD aside) less system heat/powerconsumption, and one less part to break (DVD/BD player). Primary downside is cost of course, BDs are cheaper to make. Though in 5 years, who knows?

I look forward to the next Xbox, and the next PS3. I think BOTH still have a lot of life left in them, but I'm still anxious to see what's next.

camper

dereksworl · 09-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Maybe they'll use HD-DVD

stockstar1138 · 09-23-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dereksworl

Maybe they'll use HD-DVD

thats not that far out there of an idea.

in fact, it would make quite a bit of sense.

- No R&D or Royalty Fees
- 30GB worth of space
- No commercial use outside of Xbox 3
- Production costs are low
- Xbox Add on Owners will be pleased

That said, I think they will not put blu-ray in the new xbox, what they will do is offer an add on much like the HD DVD one. That way, they are not having to pay royalty costs on every single Xbox sold, just the add-ons.

Use HD DVD for games, blu-ray add on for movies.
or use a Xbox specific format for games, blu-ray add on for movies.

They do not want a little bit of money from every game and console sold going directly to Sony.

xtop · 09-23-2008, 01:51 PM

nevermind the fact hd dvd is dead. but using it would put microsoft at a disadvantage right off the bat. plus they want the xbox as the center of the living room, so blu-ray is obvious.

dereksworl · 09-23-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtop

nevermind the fact hd dvd is dead. but using it would put microsoft at a disadvantage right off the bat. plus they want the xbox as the center of the living room, so blu-ray is obvious.

eh, i dont know..... Microcost usually puts money before brains

xtop · 09-23-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dereksworl

eh, i dont know..... Microcost usually puts money before brains

haha..true. but they arent toshiba.

dereksworl · 09-23-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xtop

haha..true. but they arent toshiba.

lol, Touche!

Even M$ knows when to abandon ship

09-23-2008, 03:18 AM	#1
jamclaur Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:849 Trading Score:34	Xbox question Those go here right? Anyway. I don't think this has been discussed, and if it has it wasn't in a forum that I found. BUT... I was wondering if you guys thought the Xbox 3 would use Blu-rays... They CAN'T make Xbox 3 and still use DVDs. I wonder what their plan will be. Any thoughts?

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09-23-2008, 03:19 AM	#2
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	it'll use blu-ray /thread

09-23-2008, 03:47 AM	#6
U4K61 Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Connecticut Blu-ray collection:40 Blu-ray reviews:4	I read somewhere the development cycle of a game console is about five years. I can't imagine when Xbox 3 comes out, it being DVD based and pushing that format for another 5 years. Suppose it's released in 2010, then it's DVD gaming through 2015. Can't see it happening.

09-23-2008, 05:20 AM	#9
plowmanjoe Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:6 Trading Score:2	when are the next consoles approx. going to be out? or when are the concepts even being thought out?

09-23-2008, 05:33 AM	#11
Grim Reaper Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Let Me In! 4K collection:499 Blu-ray collection:2022 DVD collection:25 Trading Score:13	i dont think they wont let MS use the Blu-Ray drive for the next xbox. MS will just kill it. just like they did with the HD-DVD format.

09-23-2008, 12:32 PM	#14
camper Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:367 DVD collection:445 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I suspect a BD drive in a next gen Xbox is a done deal, or at the very least a reasonable expectationo. The only way I can see them going DVD, is if it's for backwards compatibility to the 360 and the games are loaded onto some sort of flash ROM or something like that (think USB drive, memory cards, etc) for distribution. With the new Oct/Nov update for the 360 allowing for HDD installs, the new XBox may utilize that functionality quite a bit. The positives for flash ROM distribution is that it's virtually noiseless, doesn't have the space limitations of optical media (50gigs on a BD aside) less system heat/powerconsumption, and one less part to break (DVD/BD player). Primary downside is cost of course, BDs are cheaper to make. Though in 5 years, who knows? I look forward to the next Xbox, and the next PS3. I think BOTH still have a lot of life left in them, but I'm still anxious to see what's next. camper

09-23-2008, 01:33 PM	#15
dereksworl Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Around Home Theater Gallery:18 Trading Score:1	Maybe they'll use HD-DVD

09-23-2008, 01:51 PM	#17
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	nevermind the fact hd dvd is dead. but using it would put microsoft at a disadvantage right off the bat. plus they want the xbox as the center of the living room, so blu-ray is obvious.

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