Which Disney animated movies have OAR in W/S

[richieb1971]

Obviously Sleeping Beauty because I just watched it. But many of the coming attractions looked to be in 4:3 standard.


Thanks all.

[ccfixx]

Disney Animated Features

Wikipedia can be your friend, sometimes. "Lady And The Tramp" was Disney's first widescreen theatrical animated 'classic,' so everything before that film is not, obviously.

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[Canada]

Peter Pan an Pinocchio are full screen I know that.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Canada

Peter Pan an Pinocchio are full screen I know that.

"Full screen" is kind of confusing, what with HDTV's "full screen" being 16:9. I think those movies are 1.33:1, which would be a 4:3 ratio.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

Disney Animated Features

Wikipedia can be your friend, sometimes. "Lady And The Tramp" was Disney's first widescreen theatrical animated 'classic,' so everything before that film is not, obviously.

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Lady and the Tramp was actually shot twice. It was framed for 2.55:1 and then reframed and shot at 1:37:1. Many theaters could not handle the scope version of the film. 101 Dalmatians, Sword in the Stone, are 1.37:1. Jungle Book, Aristocats and Robin Hood were shot 1.37:1 and was initially released that way, but has been subsequently cropped to 1.75:1 for theirlatest DVD releases. According to IMDB, that is what they were intended to be. I have not seen it but have heard a few complaints that the tops of heads are cut off in Jungle Book due to the cropping. These all came after Lady and the Tramp, so not everything is going to be "widescreen".

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by aramis109

"Full screen" is kind of confusing, what with HDTV's "full screen" being 16:9. I think those movies are 1.33:1, which would be a 4:3 ratio.

Peter Pan and Pinocchio are actually 1.37:1.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by atomik kinder

Lady and the Tramp was actually shot twice. It was framed for 2.55:1 and then reframed and shot at 1:37:1. Many theaters could not handle the scope version of the film. 101 Dalmatians, Sword in the Stone, are 1.37:1. Jungle Book, Aristocats and Robin Hood were shot 1.37:1 and was initially released that way, but has been subsequently cropped to 1.75:1 for theirlatest DVD releases. According to IMDB, that is what they were intended to be. I have not seen it but have heard a few complaints that the tops of heads are cut off in Jungle Book due to the cropping. These all came after Lady and the Tramp, so not everything is going to be "widescreen".

Not completely true...as screen grabs comparing The Jungle Book's full-frame and Platinum release will demonstrate, the Disney animated features were planned with both TV and theatrical viewings in mind...full frame shows more of the image top and bottom, the Academy ratio shows more image on the sides, losing some information on the top and bottom.

When 101 Dalmatians was last released theatrically, it was released in 1.33:1 (or 1.37:1, not going to quibble), meaning the sides of the frame were masked off, just as Snow White, Pinocchio, and Fantasia were masked for their last theatrical re-releases.

Everything after The Fox and the Hound has been definitively wide-screen, the features from 1960 -1981, while released in a wide screen format, are not neccessarily best viewed in a wide aspect ratio.

[Deciazulado]

Btw when I saw 101 in the 90's it was in 1.85, a print made before that.

Academy ratio is 1.37, what you call full frame. You can compose for widescreen and protect for 4:3 but you can't compose for 4:3 and show in widescreen.

[unjichan]

is this mean Snow White & Pinocchio are gonna release in 4:3 Blu-Ray? with the black bars on the side???

[H9k_]

Most likely yes.

[EricJ]

In terms of movie-restoration faithfulness, 4:3 has become the Widescreen of a new nitpick-fan generation.
(Well, that and the "grain" thing.)

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Btw when I saw 101 in the 90's it was in 1.85, a print made before that.

Academy ratio is 1.37, what you call full frame. You can compose for widescreen and protect for 4:3 but you can't compose for 4:3 and show in widescreen.

Well, that didn't stop Disney from showing Fantasia, Pinocchio, Snow White and other classics cropped for modern theaters throughout the 80's. Fantasia actually had a scope version released in the 50's, as hard as that is to fathom.

The outcry over the cropped 50th anniversary release of Snow White in 1987 led to Disney releasing "window-boxed" theatrical re-releases of Fantasia (1990), 101 Dalmatians (1991), Pinocchio (1992), and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1993).

[jsub]

How about shifting aspect ratios?

[wildphantom]

Originally Posted by jsub

How about shifting aspect ratios?

Well, Brother Bear had a shifting ratio for sure
I remember seeing that in theatres, and it went from around 1.85:1 (around there) to 2.35:1 when he became a bear.

The UK DVD didn't preserve this ratio and the whole movie is in 1.85:1 which I've always hated because

a) missing animation
b) the impact of the screen blowing out in theatres was awesome. The movie changed as well as the world around the character

US DVD I believe preserves the ratio shift as I'm sure many of you US owners can testify.

[Midnightsailor]

Originally Posted by Canada

Peter Pan an Pinocchio are full screen I know that.

Better refer to them as Full Frame, so as not to confuse it with full screen/pan & scan.


EDIT: Once, in the news section of THIS site...I saw screen shots of Peter Pan in 1.78, or something similar. I sure hope it keeps it's original 1.37 aspect ratio when it hits Blu-ray.

EDIT #2: Found it! Pictures here.