How to find a new Jasper 360 - Blu-ray Forum

mikejet · 12-11-2008, 03:02 PM

How to find a new Jasper 360

All in the voltage. Look closely through the little hole!

camper · 12-11-2008, 03:28 PM

Well, according to this article I didn't get a Jasper. The arcade I got just a week ago was manufacured 9/28/08 and had NXE pre-installed. It also has the white-face DVD tray instead of the silver, and runs quieter.

No biggie, I paid the extra $20 for a 2 year warranty from TRU so if it fails I'm not concerned.

Though, I had 2 360's fail within weeks of each other, right after a power spike so I'm wondering if that had more to do with it than bad equipment (since both were running at the time).

camper

Deadset · 12-11-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by camper

Well, according to this article I didn't get a Jasper. The arcade I got just a week ago was manufacured 9/28/08 and had NXE pre-installed. It also has the white-face DVD tray instead of the silver, and runs quieter.

No biggie, I paid the extra $20 for a 2 year warranty from TRU so if it fails I'm not concerned.

Though, I had 2 360's fail within weeks of each other, right after a power spike so I'm wondering if that had more to do with it than bad equipment (since both were running at the time).

camper

So did you get the Falcon then? I was just reading this link Mike posted and was wondering if you found this thread

mikejet · 12-11-2008, 03:32 PM

I might sell my 360 and grab a Jasper after Xmas. My coworker is looking for a 360 and he's gonna pay around 70. I told him I''d sell for $125.

Beta Man · 12-11-2008, 03:35 PM

I read it.... but still don't know what a "Jasper" is????

Uniquely · 12-11-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I read it.... but still don't know what a "Jasper" is????

It's the neew smaller chipset for both the CPU and GPU that produces less heat and should be less prone to failure.

camper · 12-11-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deads3t

So did you get the Falcon then? I was just reading this link Mike posted and was wondering if you found this thread

Yeah, it's got to be the falcon if the amps are the tell-tale sign. The other one it replaced is a falcon too, and I was going to move that one into the bedroom and sell the first one I bought used that died.

What's odd is the one I just got back from the repair center (the one I bought used with an '07 date) is a full replacement system, newer, and it runs as fast & quiet as the arcade I got back. Didn't have NXE pre-installed though, so I'm wondering what's really under the hood.

That new arcade is really puzzling though...it had NXE pre-installed, but it came with the 256MB memory card.

camper

mikejet · 12-11-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by camper

Yeah, it's got to be the falcon if the amps are the tell-tale sign. The other one it replaced is a falcon too, and I was going to move that one into the bedroom and sell the first one I bought used that died.

What's odd is the one I just got back from the repair center (the one I bought used with an '07 date) is a full replacement system, newer, and it runs as fast & quiet as the arcade I got back. Didn't have NXE pre-installed though, so I'm wondering what's really under the hood.

That new arcade is really puzzling though...it had NXE pre-installed, but it came with the 256MB memory card.

camper

That is odd, according to what I've read the NXE after installation leaves 212MB onboard memory free. Free memory card!

jkwest · 12-11-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejet

That is odd, according to what I've read the NXE after installation leaves 212MB onboard memory free. Free memory card!

wow...256MB sure gets you far nowadays...lol...

jkwest · 12-11-2008, 03:51 PM

lol..its almost as if MS is throwing anything together to meet the replacement demands...how odd...not very wise business practices if you ask me..

mikejet · 12-11-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jkwest

lol..its almost as if MS is throwing anything together to meet the replacement demands...how odd...not very wise business practices if you ask me..

The two times that I sent mine in for repair they sent me refurbs back. I've never technically had a unit repaired for me. It's faster for them to do it that way. Just send replacement units out and repair units in the background.

dialog_gvf · 12-11-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejet

How to find a new Jasper 360

All in the voltage. Look closely through the little hole!

Still a lot of non-surface mount components.

Comparison pics between PS/3 and probably an older 360 board

It doesn't look like Jasper is any kind of major redesign. Did they drop the trace size on the major chips?

Gary

mikejet · 12-11-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Still a lot of non-surface mount components.

Comparison pics between PS/3 and probably an older 360 board

It doesn't look like Jasper is any kind of major redesign. Did they drop the trace size on the major chips?

Gary

Both the GPU from ATi and the CPU use 65nm architecture.

Deadset · 12-11-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Still a lot of non-surface mount components.

Comparison pics between PS/3 and probably an older 360 board

It doesn't look like Jasper is any kind of major redesign. Did they drop the trace size on the major chips?

Gary

view my post above, it's tough to tell VLSI improvements by looking at a board

xtop · 12-11-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

It doesn't look like Jasper is any kind of major redesign. Did they drop the trace size on the major chips?

Gary

didnt need to be. rrod isnt at 33 percent and hasnt been in a long time. rrod was pretty much gone with falcon

camper · 12-11-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xtop

didnt need to be. rrod isnt at 33 percent and hasnt been in a long time. rrod was pretty much gone with falcon

Where can you find the actual failure rates? I keep hearing one number over another, and I would like to know factual data.

I'm also very curious to know the PS3 & Wii failure rates as well.

camper

Deadset · 12-11-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by camper

Where can you find the actual failure rates? I keep hearing one number over another, and I would like to know factual data.

I'm also very curious to know the PS3 & Wii failure rates as well.

camper

Agreed, i'd also like to know a reputable site.

jkwest · 12-11-2008, 04:53 PM

come on...if you can find it anywhere on the internets...it must be true, right?

xtop · 12-11-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deads3t

Agreed, i'd also like to know a reputable site.

dunno. but its a pretty safe assumption it isnt 33 like fanboys think it is, thats all i was saying

dialog_gvf · 12-11-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xtop

didnt need to be. rrod isnt at 33 percent and hasnt been in a long time. rrod was pretty much gone with falcon

I wonder if they increased the bandwidth to the HDMI chip, or is it still unable to do 1080p + multi-channel LPCM?

Gary

12-11-2008, 03:02 PM	#1
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12-11-2008, 03:28 PM	#2
camper Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:367 DVD collection:445 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Well, according to this article I didn't get a Jasper. The arcade I got just a week ago was manufacured 9/28/08 and had NXE pre-installed. It also has the white-face DVD tray instead of the silver, and runs quieter. No biggie, I paid the extra $20 for a 2 year warranty from TRU so if it fails I'm not concerned. Though, I had 2 360's fail within weeks of each other, right after a power spike so I'm wondering if that had more to do with it than bad equipment (since both were running at the time). camper

12-11-2008, 03:32 PM	#4
mikejet Banned Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:29	I might sell my 360 and grab a Jasper after Xmas. My coworker is looking for a 360 and he's gonna pay around 70. I told him I''d sell for $125.

12-11-2008, 03:35 PM	#5
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I read it.... but still don't know what a "Jasper" is????

12-11-2008, 03:51 PM	#10
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	lol..its almost as if MS is throwing anything together to meet the replacement demands...how odd...not very wise business practices if you ask me..

12-11-2008, 04:53 PM	#18
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	come on...if you can find it anywhere on the internets...it must be true, right?

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