Any Chance the classic "Predator" is going to get re-worked? - Blu-ray Forum

kobeeightjp · 01-07-2009, 11:33 PM

I love this movie (one of my favorites) but I have heard very negative reviews about the disc. Is the source material beyond hope and this is the best we can get? Or can we expect to see a re-work in the future?

DetroitSportsFan · 01-07-2009, 11:38 PM

Doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon.

By the way, it's not as bad as some would suggest. It's the best Predator has ever looked. If you're a fan, get it.

EDIT: It's going to be $14.99 at Best Buy starting this Sunday, January 11th.

Volume11 · 01-07-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon.

By the way, it's not as bad as some would suggest. It's the best Predator has ever looked. If you're a fan, get it.

I have to disagree. The BD looks meh at best. I know its a grainy and washed out film but I honestly think they could do better....my brother in law literally thought it was a DVD upscaled when he walked by and stopped to take a peek.

u_nick · 01-08-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

EDIT: It's going to be $14.99 at Best Buy starting this Sunday, January 11th.

Just what I've been waiting to hear. Thanks!

The Guilty Party · 01-08-2009, 12:27 AM

Is it one of the better BDs out there? No, but I do love the film as a poster said above... it is the best looking version of the film out there hence it was a no-brainer for me to purchase.

statikcat · 01-08-2009, 12:56 AM

It seems like a lot of action movies from the mid 80s to early 90s used really crappy film. Is it a coincidence that Predator, Total Recall, Terminator 1/2, Commando, etc all look poor? It's not simply their age because if you look at Road Warrior from 79 it looks jaw dropping. I think for these movies to look really good some major restoration would have to be done which probably will not happen until Blu-ray becomes more of a standard.

alienofwar · 01-08-2009, 02:45 AM

I just picked up Predator at Wal-Mart for $14.

Grim Reaper · 01-08-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon.

By the way, it's not as bad as some would suggest. It's the best Predator has ever looked. If you're a fan, get it.

EDIT: It's going to be $14.99 at Best Buy starting this Sunday, January 11th.

i can pick this up at walmart for the same price. and, its a regular price.

STARSCREAM · 01-08-2009, 04:03 AM

They might be able to get alittle more outta the pic but I think its just how the film is. Alot of these 80's flicks seem to be very poor quality film or somethin.

Jenksu · 01-08-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kobeeightjp

I love this movie (one of my favorites)...?

Predator is one of my all time favorites, and it was a no brainer for me to purchase for the holidays!!!

After comparing both formats, I can tell the PQ on some scenes where better and some look the same. However, the AQ no comparison, my system was rocking

just blowing my ears away!!! If you have a good system, you will appreciate the blu-ray version.

Meeklo · 01-08-2009, 05:14 AM

I'm still holding out for that Aliens/Predator set to be released on Blu before I buy anymore movies from those franchises.

Michael.Schinke · 01-08-2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by statikcat

It seems like a lot of action movies from the mid 80s to early 90s used really crappy film. Is it a coincidence that Predator, Total Recall, Terminator 1/2, Commando, etc all look poor? It's not simply their age because if you look at Road Warrior from 79 it looks jaw dropping. I think for these movies to look really good some major restoration would have to be done which probably will not happen until Blu-ray becomes more of a standard.

If I remember my limited cinema history correctly I think you pretty much nailed it. There was a period where the studios were using cheap film stock that just doesn't hold up. The only way to get anything better out of some of those films would be to go back to the negative, restore it, and make a new master from there. For most of these movies I don't think there is much incentive to invest that much. Especially not from 20th Century Fox. Tom Rothman HATES fantasy and science fiction films, which is evidenced by the number of high profile turds that studio has put out in recent years.

demoni · 01-08-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by statikcat

It's not simply their age because if you look at Road Warrior from 79 it looks jaw dropping.

Right on!! There's no need for old titles to look crappy.

Look at what they did to the original Star Wars trilogy for the special edition laserdisc editions. They physically cleaned all the film rolls...

And Predator being THE ultimate action movie of all time deserves a pristine Blu-ray release!

DeeChizzle · 01-08-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by demoni

Right on!! There's no need for old titles to look crappy.

Look at what they did to the original Star Wars trilogy for the special edition laserdisc editions. They physically cleaned all the film rolls...

And Predator being THE ultimate action movie of all time deserves a pristine Blu-ray release!

You're wrong. I won't explain in detail because there's a ton of threads already about this topic.

DetroitSportsFan · 01-08-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

i can pick this up at walmart for the same price. and, its a regular price.

Thanks for the info. I wouldn't know, I try to stay out of Wal-Mart.

HeavyHitter · 01-08-2009, 04:32 PM

The Predator BD looks like pure film at 1080p/24. It was filmed on location using 80's film stock which has a grainy, drabby look to it.

For those of you complaining of the quality, simply turn up the DNR dial on your display and player to remove the grain. You might as well turn up the sharpness controls too.

Blu As Hell · 01-08-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kobeeightjp

I love this movie (one of my favorites) but I have heard very negative reviews about the disc. Is the source material beyond hope and this is the best we can get? Or can we expect to see a re-work in the future?

Well in the 80's to the early to mid 90's a majority of the movies made in that time frame were made on cheap film stock so they won't look as good as a movie made today or even a movie made in the 70's or 60's on blu-ray. The only thing they can do is maybe use a AVC codec for it and bump up the bitrate, that may help some but I think Predator looks as good as it can.

Brad1963 · 01-08-2009, 05:20 PM

Predator is a classic?

cdot2four · 01-08-2009, 05:27 PM

I put this in the same class as 28 days later the pic isnt that much better but the sound is off the hook

JessR · 01-08-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon.

By the way, it's not as bad as some would suggest. It's the best Predator has ever looked. If you're a fan, get it.

EDIT: It's going to be $14.99 at Best Buy starting this Sunday, January 11th.

I agree its actually pretty good.

01-07-2009, 11:33 PM	#1
kobeeightjp Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:1	Any Chance the classic "Predator" is going to get re-worked? I love this movie (one of my favorites) but I have heard very negative reviews about the disc. Is the source material beyond hope and this is the best we can get? Or can we expect to see a re-work in the future?

01-07-2009, 11:38 PM	#2
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	Doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon. By the way, it's not as bad as some would suggest. It's the best Predator has ever looked. If you're a fan, get it. EDIT: It's going to be $14.99 at Best Buy starting this Sunday, January 11th. Last edited by DetroitSportsFan; 01-07-2009 at 11:44 PM.

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The Guilty Party Active Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Zoo Jersey Blu-ray collection:119	Is it one of the better BDs out there? No, but I do love the film as a poster said above... it is the best looking version of the film out there hence it was a no-brainer for me to purchase.

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statikcat Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:67	It seems like a lot of action movies from the mid 80s to early 90s used really crappy film. Is it a coincidence that Predator, Total Recall, Terminator 1/2, Commando, etc all look poor? It's not simply their age because if you look at Road Warrior from 79 it looks jaw dropping. I think for these movies to look really good some major restoration would have to be done which probably will not happen until Blu-ray becomes more of a standard.

01-08-2009, 02:45 AM	#7
alienofwar Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alberta Blu-ray collection:151 Blu-ray reviews:1	I just picked up Predator at Wal-Mart for $14.

01-08-2009, 04:03 AM	#9
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	They might be able to get alittle more outta the pic but I think its just how the film is. Alot of these 80's flicks seem to be very poor quality film or somethin.

01-08-2009, 05:14 AM	#11
Meeklo Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2008 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:687 DVD collection:3 Blu-ray reviews:28 Trading Score:25	I'm still holding out for that Aliens/Predator set to be released on Blu before I buy anymore movies from those franchises.

01-08-2009, 04:32 PM	#16
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	The Predator BD looks like pure film at 1080p/24. It was filmed on location using 80's film stock which has a grainy, drabby look to it. For those of you complaining of the quality, simply turn up the DNR dial on your display and player to remove the grain. You might as well turn up the sharpness controls too.

01-08-2009, 05:20 PM	#18
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01-08-2009, 05:27 PM	#19
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