Onkyo 806

[TENSE]

does any one have this receiver? if so, how good goes it sound? how does it stack up with the onkyo 805? is there a big difference in terms sound quality between the 805 amd 806 like night and day? well, i would love to hear your opinion guy's!

[C_Doc]

I'll let you know in a day or two.. I just ordered an 806 from CrutchfieldCanada.com and it's on its way here. I'd originally ordered a 905 but when my wife saw the invoice, she said WTF??? so I had to downgrade a bit..

That'll teach her to pay attention when I ask if its ok to get the "expensive" one and she says "Ya whatever"...

I have no frame of reference to compare it to an 805, since I've never owned Onkyo before, but I can compare it to my Yamaha THX enabled, 120watt/ch 7.1 receiver that I'll be replacing for its lack of HD codecs...

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by C_Doc

I'll let you know in a day or two.. I just ordered an 806 from CrutchfieldCanada.com and it's on its way here. I'd originally ordered a 905 but when my wife saw the invoice, she said WTF??? so I had to downgrade a bit..

That'll teach her to pay attention when I ask if its ok to get the "expensive" one and she says "Ya whatever"...

I have no frame of reference to compare it to an 805, since I've never owned Onkyo before, but I can compare it to my Yamaha THX enabled, 120watt/ch 7.1 receiver that I'll be replacing for its lack of HD codecs...

nice, alright let me now when you get yours doc!

[C_Doc]

Well, after a heavy drooling session upon opening the box, my first impressions of the 806 are this:

• Very high quality build. It's a tank!
• The sound is very good, out of the box. I haven't even run the auto setup for the speakers yet, so it should only get better.
• One odd thing, that's either due to the fact I'm running HDMI->DVI currently to my projector, or that I have a crappy Blu-Ray player, but HDMI refuses to connect properly with my projector/player. The readout on my player goes back and forth from 1080p to 1080i and eventually gets a "no signal" error on the 806. I think this will clear up when I go full 1080p/HDMI on my projector (or at least I hope it does!)

I'll post more comments as I come across stuff

[crackinhedz]

The readout on my player goes back and forth from 1080p to 1080i and eventually gets a "no signal" error on the 806.

This is interesting. Maybe I don't understand your situation...do you have the Player outputting 1080p?

[TENSE]

keep me updated c doc!

[C_Doc]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

This is interesting. Maybe I don't understand your situation...do you have the Player outputting 1080p?

My 720P w/ DVI input projector can only accept up to 1080i, and I have my Samsung BDP1400 set to output 1080i. For some reason, even before changing amps, it resets to other resolutions. With the new amp, by running HDMI to the amp, then the PJ, it can't negotiate the correct setting. I have the amp's HDMI output set to "Through" so as supposedly not to interfere. The manual says HDMI->DVI can give unpredicatble results, and I think I'm proof of that.

Anyhow, as soon as I upgrade to a 1080p projector, I'd assume all is well (1080p pipeline from A to Z)

[HeManster03]

Originally Posted by TENSE

does any one have this receiver? if so, how good goes it sound? how does it stack up with the onkyo 805? is there a big difference in terms sound quality between the 805 amd 806 like night and day? well, i would love to hear your opinion guy's!

i don't have this unit, but we did carry the 805 at work and subbed it out in the exact setup for the 806. here are my initial impressions

-as previous poster said, this thing is a tank. if possible i think that they added 3-5 pounds to the 806 from last years model.
-the 5 hdmi inputs/1 output are a huge step up, further future proofing this reciever.
-i was actually most impressed with the remote as they made it look less complicated and more functional as to not scare the hell out of potential buyers, and more importantly their wives.
-initial setup was a snap, but if you have set up one onkyo 8 series reciever you have set them all up for the most part. lol

overall, i feel it is a worthy replacement to a phenominal reciever. most will probably do what i did though and grab the 606 or 706 as the THX certification means very little to a fair bit of people, at least in my area.

[sarge1976]

I heard that the DAC's aren't as good as the 805's,the 805 has Burr Browns and I'm not quite sure what the 806's have but I know its not the BB's,I originally wanted to trade my 805 in for the 806 but a few people on here recommended I'd be better off with the 805 if I didn't need the extra HDMI inputs.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by sarge1976

I heard that the DAC's aren't as good as the 805's,the 805 has Burr Browns and I'm not quite sure what the 806's have but I know its not the BB's,I originally wanted to trade my 805 in for the 806 but a few people on here recommended I'd be better off with the 805 if I didn't need the extra HDMI inputs.

You are correct, the 805 has PCM1796 Burr Brown DAC's found in the $5,000 Yamaha RX-Z11 and Denon $5,500 5308CI, the 806 has Cirrus Logic DAC's.
Advantage TX-SR805

The 805 will not process 24/192 Dolby TrueHD.
The 806 will process 24/192 Dolby TrueHD.
Bitstream: Advantage TX-SR806
PCM: Advantage neither

The 805 processes dts-ma 24/192 at 24/96
The 806 processes dts-ma 24/192 at 24/192
Bitstream: Advantage TX-SR806
PCM: Advantage neither

The 805 processes DSD directly to analog or to PCM for processing
The 806 processes DSD to PCM regardless of setting
Bitstream: Advantage TX-SR805
PCM: Advantage neither

The 805 has 60A High Instantaneous Current Capability
The 806 has 36A High Instantaneous Current Capability
Advantage TX-SR805

The 805 doesn't have bridging for front speakers for 2.1 listening
The 806 does have bridging for front speakers to 210W/ch (8Ω) for 2.1
Advantage TX-SR806

I think the 805 has better power, although the missing BTL capability did bother me, but for $614 new I couldn't pass up the 805. I listen to a lot of SACD's with the Oppo 980H that has DSD output, so I wanted DSD>Analog too which the xx6 series don't have.

The 5 HDMI inputs is pretty kick ass, but I only have three devices right now that I use for HDMI. If I were to add a standalone Blu-ray player for bitstreaming, I'd go component for my satellite dish.

[lobo81865]

I haven't heard the 806, but I have an 805. I love it, but I wish it had more than 3 HDMI inputs. If Oppo's upcoming player has the specs I am hoping for that may be a moot point though.

[jd213]

I also have an 805, I'm considering just getting an HDMI 1.3 switch from Monoprice if I need the extra inputs.

[sarge1976]

Do they even make BD's with 24/192 sound yet? if so is there a big difference between 24/96 and 24/192

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by sarge1976

Do they even make BD's with 24/192 sound yet? if so is there a big difference between 24/96 and 24/192

Yep, there have been DVD's released with 24/192 even, some DVD-Audio discs.
I have a few REM DVD-Audio's with 24/192 stereo tracks.

Is there a big difference between 24/96 and 24/192? I don't think so. But I don't want processing done where it doesn't need to be done, which is why I got the 805 as I wanted DSD>Analog with no PCM processing. I do think that sounds better when I go between the two.

There are no movies with 24/192, only audio discs.

[TENSE]

doby blue quote!
"""""" The 805 doesn't have bridging for front speakers for 2.1 listening
The 806 does have bridging for front speakers to 210W/ch (8Ω) for 2.1
Advantage TX-SR806 """""""""


wow! well since im going to run a 2.1 system for quite while, this feature would greatly convince me to buy the 806.

so basically the 805 just has a little better sound quality than the 806 then?
so if i was to compare them head to head, the 805 would sound better than the 806 like a difference between night and day? because seriously, as my first receiver, i think the 806 would be the better choice. it still has 130 watts x7 and plus has 5 hdmi inputs! if the sound is not that big of a difference then, i now know whats going to be under my Christmas tree this Christmas!

[sarge1976]

thanks doby for clearing that up for me

[dobyblue]

Whether or not the 806 and 805 sound different is not my place to guess for I haven't compared them side-by-side, nor do I expect to.

You need to do that for yourself.



What one person's reasons for choosing the 805 over the 806 may be totally different than what another person is looking for which would lead them to pick the 806.

At the current price of the 805 though, it's hard to pass up.

[Schrute Farms]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The 805 will not process 24/192 Dolby TrueHD.
The 806 will process 24/192 Dolby TrueHD.
Bitstream: Advantage TX-SR806
PCM: Advantage neither

The 805 processes dts-ma 24/192 at 24/96
The 806 processes dts-ma 24/192 at 24/192
Bitstream: Advantage TX-SR806
PCM: Advantage neither

So if someone has the 805, and has 24/192 TrueHD bitstreamed to the receiver, what happens? Will it sound different, or make no sound at all? I just got the 875 and it only does 24/96, so I was curious. Thanks!

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yep, there have been DVD's released with 24/192 even, some DVD-Audio discs.
I have a few REM DVD-Audio's with 24/192 stereo tracks.

Is there a big difference between 24/96 and 24/192? I don't think so. But I don't want processing done where it doesn't need to be done, which is why I got the 805 as I wanted DSD>Analog with no PCM processing. I do think that sounds better when I go between the two.

There are no movies with 24/192, only audio discs.

EDIT: I just read this by doby. clears that up.

[TENSE]

c doc, any more thoughts on the 806?

[Driver_King]

I believe the 875 has better video upscaling and video features than the 805, has an extra HDMI input, has Burr-Browns, and I think it can do bridging.

Edit: Yes it does.

BTL Capability For Front (200W)