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Old 12-04-2008, 10:33 PM   #1
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Okay so I am planning on mounting a 52 inch TV to my wall. I don't want a wire running down my wall to the BD player. So....my plan is to install an HDMI jack in the wall and plugging the TV into that. From there, I want to run wiring from the jack through the wall to another point where another HDMI jack will be installed. At that jack, I want to plug my BD player in.

Now...the wiring between the two HDMI jacks. Do I use a 10 foot HDMI cable here or 16 gauge wiring or...not sure what to tell my electrician? Again...I'm not running an HDMI cable directly from the TV to the BD player.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:38 PM   #2
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This should do it.

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-HDMI-WP...8433851&sr=1-5

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:44 PM   #3
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Or you could order the wall plates from Monoprice as well, for cheaper too:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:46 PM   #4
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Looked, but didn't see them...
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:51 PM   #5
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Instead of the cost of the face plates, and then 3 HDMI cables (one from TV to plate, one from plate to plate, on from plate to player), why not just buy one long HDMI cable and have a small hole in the wall behind your TV where the cable goes in and another small hole in the wall behind your player where the cable comes out? Not the cleanest way, but certainly the cheapest. And no one would notice anyways since everything is behind the TV/player. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:57 PM   #6
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Looked, but didn't see them...
No worries, bro. Monoprice is incredible though-- is there anything that they don't have for cheaper than anybody else?

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Instead of the cost of the face plates, and then 3 HDMI cables (one from TV to plate, one from plate to plate, on from plate to player), why not just buy one long HDMI cable and have a small hole in the wall behind your TV where the cable goes in and another small hole in the wall behind your player where the cable comes out? Not the cleanest way, but certainly the cheapest. And no one would notice anyways since everything is behind the TV/player. Just my 2 cents.
Yup, thats a thought too. You can use these plates with a one gang low voltage box/plate:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Just make sure you use an in-wall rated cable to maintain electrical code requirements.

I've used all of the above plates/method with great results.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:19 PM   #7
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Just remember when running through the walls use wires that are rated CL2 or better. It is always best to run the low voltage (signal wires) perpendicular to power. When they are run parallel you take the chance of picking up noise on the line.
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:37 PM   #8
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Thanks Jason...exactly what I was looking for.
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Instead of the cost of the face plates, and then 3 HDMI cables (one from TV to plate, one from plate to plate, on from plate to player), why not just buy one long HDMI cable and have a small hole in the wall behind your TV where the cable goes in and another small hole in the wall behind your player where the cable comes out? Not the cleanest way, but certainly the cheapest. And no one would notice anyways since everything is behind the TV/player. Just my 2 cents.
The secondary plate where the BD player is gonna plug in...I'm also going to have speaker jacks...hoping to find a combo speaker jack/HDMI jack plate

Thanks for the tip, though.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:05 PM   #10
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I agree with purplegrasshopper...We've run 3 hdmi cables thru one plate on both ends (up by TV and down by the stand) with no problems at all. The more plates you have to more messy it looks. Same with the speaker wire. You can use the reverse nose plates for the cleanest look. And make sure the cables are cl rated or for fire rating. If there was ever a fire you're insurance company could deny the claim cuz the cables aren't code (cl rated). It's all hidden behind the stand and tv anyway? Plus it's the simplest and cheapest. That's the way I have mine and I'm a HT instller.
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:58 PM   #11
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If you live in california like me its sometimes cheaper to order from parts express so you don't pay tax.
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I plan on doing the same thing as the OP (2 wall mounts, upper and lower), but I'm confused as to what the best option is for the power cord?

Any suggestions?
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:03 PM   #13
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I'm looking at doing the same (using an HDMI wall mounts).

Three questions:

1) Are the wall mounts with the strain reliefs completely HDMI 1.3 compliant? In other words, are the short cables inside 1.3 also? I've heard they're not. How is the fit inside a standard gang box? Is it a tight/cumbersome install for existing construction?

2)What about the 90 degree wall plates? Any input on those?
http://www.mycablemart.com/store/car...t_detail&p=469

3) How much, if any, signal degredation can I expect by connecting my PS3, for example, via HDMI to my receiver, then to the first wall mount, up the wall to the second wall mount and then out to the TV? (Right now I'm connected to the receiver and then to the TV.)

Thanks Guys.

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Old 12-08-2008, 08:30 PM   #14
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I'm looking at doing the same (using an HDMI wall mounts).
If you have all of these concerns about 1.3 and degredation, why bother? It's easier (and less expensive) to have a single cable between the TV and the receiver.
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If you have all of these concerns about 1.3 and degredation, why bother? It's easier (and less expensive) to have a single cable between the TV and the receiver.
True, but I'd like to clean things up a bit with the wiring/cabling. My questions are asked simply to determine the value of such an upgrade. If there is no degredation, then it's worth it to clean things up.
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:52 PM   #16
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After some more research, I think I'm going to connect everything using these:

For the power connection, I'll use this:

http://www.powerbridgesolution.com/home.html


For the HDMI connections, I'll use this:

http://www.onestopbuy.com/PBBWP-WH-36817.asp


That way, I'll have a secure, safe connection for the power cord without the cost of an electrician and a single, unseen HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV without the extra HDMI wall plates. Everything is hidden behind cabinets and the TV.

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Old 12-16-2008, 03:17 PM   #17
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I think he wants to do something like this:



I have my TV mounted using HDMI wall plates.

These are the ones I have that are shown in the picture:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

You will need two of them. Install is easy, but you will need to find a Home Depot/Lowes and get 2 low-voltage gang boxes. The wall plates mount directly to those.

For the cable run behind the wall, you will want to get an HDMI cable that is rated for in-wall installations.

This one should do nicely:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Then, all you will need is a couple of shorter standard HDMI cables to connect your BD player to the lower wall plate, and the upper wall plate to the TV.
There are tons to choose from here:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...09&cp_id=10240

I would try and keep the lengths as short as possible to make your wire management easier. I also highly recommend using a PowerBridge to run the power cable for your TV. You can read all about it here:
http://www.powerbridgesolution.com/a...werbridge.html

Good luck with the install!
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:51 PM   #18
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I'm looking at doing the same (using an HDMI wall mounts).

Three questions:

1) Are the wall mounts with the strain reliefs completely HDMI 1.3 compliant? In other words, are the short cables inside 1.3 also? I've heard they're not. How is the fit inside a standard gang box? Is it a tight/cumbersome install for existing construction?

2)What about the 90 degree wall plates? Any input on those?
http://www.mycablemart.com/store/car...t_detail&p=469

3) How much, if any, signal degredation can I expect by connecting my PS3, for example, via HDMI to my receiver, then to the first wall mount, up the wall to the second wall mount and then out to the TV? (Right now I'm connected to the receiver and then to the TV.)

Thanks Guys.
1. They make gang boxes without backs. Most of my HT ones are so I do not ned to fish wires though the little holes.

2. that looks fine but you would nee to run up and the second down. This seemes like it would cause more bend for the one that needs to go in the exact opposite direction. If I designed that, I would have made the back connectors like steps so you can have them both going the same direction.

2. Each connection can introduce latency, judder, noise, and a point of failure. It depends on how comfortable you feel in this design/setup.
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Old 12-30-2008, 02:54 AM   #19
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Okay I've reviewed the advice given here and have culled a stock list...input would be appreciated

In-Wall speaker jack plate

2 HDMI Wall Plates

2 35ft HDMI 1.3 in-wall cables
*note: wtf why do they say limit 1 per customer? Do I have to order this thing twice? Are these things rare?

50 foot 16 gauge in-wall speaker wire

Besides a power plug, do I need anything else behind the LCD TV besides an HDMI port and the coaxial cable port?

Secondly, Monoprice's brackets for LCD TVs are significantly cheaper than anything from Costco/Amazon, etc. Just wondering if these are viable or do I want to stick with a mount that is "guaranteed" for the particular TV I will be getting?
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