768p vs 1080p

[sewerdog]

Just want to know I am going to buy the Sony 350 Blu-Ray player and was also thinking about an Insignia 50 in Plasma 1080p. The Plasma thread was not real kind to that tv. Someone said he bought a Panasonic 50in Plasma but it is only 768p will the 350 have just as good a picture on that as it would a 1080p set. Both set have good reviews from CNET. The tvs are at best buy and set right next to each other so watching them both at the same time I could see the picture quality both looked pretty good and actually could not see that much difference in the picture but my main concern is the quality of the blu-rays picture and my viewing range is between 7-9 feet. please help getting more confused by the minute

[Porfie]

Originally Posted by sewerdog

Just want to know I am going to buy the Sony 350 Blu-Ray player and was also thinking about an Insignia 50 in Plasma 1080p. The Plasma thread was not real kind to that tv. Someone said he bought a Panasonic 50in Plasma but it is only 768p will the 350 have just as good a picture on that as it would a 1080p set. Both set have good reviews from CNET. The tvs are at best buy and set right next to each other so watching them both at the same time I could see the picture quality both looked pretty good and actually could not see that much difference in the picture but my main concern is the quality of the blu-rays picture and my viewing range is between 7-9 feet. please help getting more confused by the minute

You would be better off going with a 1080p tv otherwise you will not see what blu-ray is capable of. You can find some lower priced SONY 1080p TVS. Try to stay with a brand like SONY or Pioneer if you can, if not go with a 1080p tv instead of a 720p.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by Porfie

You would be better off going with a 1080p tv otherwise you will not see what blu-ray is capable of. .

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http://www.hometheatermag.com/gearworks/1106gear/

You still will benefit with a 1080i TV and you will see what Blu-ray is capable of.

It also depends on the size of the TV and How far the TV is being Viewed at.

If you Do purchase lets say a 50" Plasma 1080i and your viewing is 10 feet or more you'll be fine

[My_Two_Cents]

Blanket statements like "you must go with 1080p to get the full advantage of HD/BD" are not accurate. There are many factors other than resolution that affect picture quality. In your particular case, you'd be MUCH better off getting a 768p Pany versus a 1080p Insignia. If you must buy the Insignia, then you better purchase the extended warranty, because chances are you will need it. Add-up the total cost, and you may see that you can afford a 1080p Pany after all....

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Blanket statements like "you must go with 1080p to get the full advantage of HD/BD" are not accurate. There are many factors other than resolution that affect picture quality. In your particular case, you'd be MUCH better off getting a 768p Pany versus a 1080p Insignia. If you must buy the Insignia, then you better purchase the extended warranty, because chances are you will need it. Add-up the total cost, and you may see that you can afford a 1080p Pany after all....

This is not true. As long as you can afford it, you should buy the 1080p.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Blanket statements like "you must go with 1080p to get the full advantage of HD/BD" are not accurate. There are many factors other than resolution that affect picture quality. In your particular case, you'd be MUCH better off getting a 768p Pany versus a 1080p Insignia. If you must buy the Insignia, then you better purchase the extended warranty, because chances are you will need it. Add-up the total cost, and you may see that you can afford a 1080p Pany after all....

I was going to add that there's good 1080i and bad 1080i,the same with 1080p. But you beat me to it

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

This is not true. As long as you can afford it, you should buy the 1080p.

I do agree with your statement.For Sure But a good make

The only problem i had really was the statement that you won't see what blu-ray is capable of using a 720p TV .This is absolutely not true

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by ckent22

This is not true. As long as you can afford it, you should buy the 1080p.

Again, statements like this only serve to confuse. A Dynex/Insignia/Vizio 1080p is NOT going to give you a better picture than a 768p Panasonic or Pioneer. Sorry, but they won't.

Will a 1080p Pany give you a better picture than a 768p Pany? Yes, depending on viewing distance and your eyesight. If you are looking to purchase a 42" set that will be viewed from 12' away, then your statement that you "should" buy 1080p has no basis behind it as you will not see a difference between the two resolutions at that viewing distance. At closer distances or with a bigger set, then you "should" start to see a difference.

[Shinma]

sewerdog, you actually asked a pretty specific question about your own setup, but, to this point, have gotten replies that are general. The factors that you should probably consider are: black-levels, color accuracy/gamut range, resolution, and reliability. Of this list, the only advantage the 1080P will give you over the 768P is resolution. You list your viewing distance as 7'-9', and that is right at the border of where you will see an difference in the two resolutions in a 50" set. Most likely you will see a difference at 7', but probably not 9'. The two sets are from different manufactures, and I don't know enough about the specific on the Insignia, so it is difficult to comment on this specific case, but if the two sets are from the same manufactures, and from the same generation of screen, you almost always have better contrast from the lower resolution screen. This is because the pre-charge level needs to be greater for the higher number of pixels. The black levels in the same generation 1080P are generally not as good as the 768P or 720P.

Personally, given these two choices, I would go with the Panasonic for reasons of color and reliability. You are right at the edge of being able to tell a resolution difference, so I think these factors would outweigh a minimal difference in perceived resolution. If you know you will be sitting closer to 7' then the resolution would start weighing in significantly more heavily in the argument though.

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Again, statements like this only serve to confuse. A Dynex/Insignia/Vizio 1080p is NOT going to give you a better picture than a 768p Panasonic or Pioneer. Sorry, but they won't.

Will a 1080p Pany give you a better picture than a 768p Pany? Yes, depending on viewing distance and your eyesight. If you are looking to purchase a 42" set that will be viewed from 12' away, then your statement that you "should" buy 1080p has no basis behind it as you will not see a difference between the two resolutions at that viewing distance. At closer distances or with a bigger set, then you "should" start to see a difference.

You're wrong about this. It depends on the source material. 720p and 1080p Televisions both offer advantages and disadvantages, but it all depends o the source material. And if it's HD source material it will look better on the Insignia.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

You're wrong about this. It depends on the source material. 720p and 1080p Televisions both offer advantages and disadvantages, but it all depends o the source material. And if it's HD source material it will look better on the Insignia.

Insignia,are you sure Brother.

I was looking at Insignia when i was shopping around (trying to save a buck ).I had a 50" plasma. Rented it for a week to see what it was like.The picture was crap.

When i decided to buy my Samsung It was light night and day.I would say stay away from Insignia.

In my opinion there cheap TV 's because there cheap.

My personal opinion,GO PANASONIC

[PS3+HDDVD OWNER]

Originally Posted by sewerdog

Just want to know I am going to buy the Sony 350 Blu-Ray player and was also thinking about an Insignia 50 in Plasma 1080p. The Plasma thread was not real kind to that tv. Someone said he bought a Panasonic 50in Plasma but it is only 768p will the 350 have just as good a picture on that as it would a 1080p set. Both set have good reviews from CNET. The tvs are at best buy and set right next to each other so watching them both at the same time I could see the picture quality both looked pretty good and actually could not see that much difference in the picture but my main concern is the quality of the blu-rays picture and my viewing range is between 7-9 feet. please help getting more confused by the minute

You will be MUCH better off getting a Panasonic Plasma. I think you're focusing a little too much on 1080P right now. Sure a 50" Plasma 1080P for $1250 (plus tax...) looks like a good deal. But there is a catch....Its an Insignia!!! What if your Insignia breaks? I wonder how Insignia's customer service is . Seriously, why wouldn't you get a name brand for similar cost that also happens to be a 10 times better HDTV?


Panasonic Plasma 50" 720P for $999 on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Vier...1429874&sr=8-3

Insignia Plasma 50" 1080P for $1250 . Dont forget tax, which will be about $100.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1205538043295


I will guarantee you that even though the Panasonic is 720P, it will outperform that Insignia all day long. And if 1080P really matters to you, pony up the extra money and get the 1080P Panasonic. You'll be hard pressed to find a better 1080P plasma at that price


P.S- Your blu rays will thank you if you decide on the Panasonic. They definately make some of the best plasmas, and especially for the price! I have a 42" 720P Toshiba, and a 46" Samsung 1080P and honestly cannot tell much of a difference in PQ. I sit about 8 feet away from both sets while watching BD's and playing PS3 games.

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by ozzman

Insignia,are you sure Brother.

I was looking at Insignia when i was shopping around (trying to save a buck ).I had a 50" plasma. Rented it for a week to see what it was like.The picture was crap.

When i decided to buy my Samsung It was light night and day.I would say stay away from Insignia.

In my opinion there cheap TV 's because there cheap.I say go Panasonic but thats just my personal suggestion

Well obviously. Samsungs are arguably the best HDTVs on the market. But, not a 768p Panasonic compared to a 1080p Insignia.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Well obviously. Samsungs are arguably the best HDTVs on the market. But, not a 768p Panasonic compared to a 1080p Insignia.

Sorry my friend i do disagree with you,But hey thats what this forums for

[PS3+HDDVD OWNER]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Well obviously. Samsungs are arguably the best HDTVs on the market. But, not a 768p Panasonic compared to a 1080p Insignia.

You'd take a 1080P Insignia over a 720P Panasonic?

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by PS3+HDDVD OWNER

You'd take a 1080P Insignia over a 720P Panasonic?

Not to be rude,but i have to agree. Sorry

[DeadDog]

I would suggest not getting too hung up on the 1080p over 720p deal. As many have stated, you will have a better picture on the Panasonic due to such things as contrast ratio, black levels, etc. When I was looking for a TV this article helped ease my thoughts about 1080p

http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/?tag=bubbl_3

Bottom line, a really good 720p set is going to be much better than an ok/decent 1080p. But, if you feel your the type of person than needs the piece of mind of having a 1080p set, then I think your decision is already made. Either way it's your choice. Everyone here is just trying to help you get the most bang for your buck.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

But, not a 768p Panasonic compared to a 1080p Insignia.

When i had that Insignia it was new out of the box.The blacks weren't black there were dark grey and belive me i tried to work the contrast and brightness with color.

It was terrible.It was a nightmare.I could not make this TV look half decent.
The color blew on it.
Its not worth buying.You can do much better.unless you know something i don't know with this TV.I believe Insignia TV's are for people that don't no any better!

Have you sampled one in your Home or are you just saying this because it's a 1080p .
Iam not trying to be sarcastic,Truley I just want to understand where your coming from ?

[RichArab]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Blanket statements like "you must go with 1080p to get the full advantage of HD/BD" are not accurate. There are many factors other than resolution that affect picture quality. In your particular case, you'd be MUCH better off getting a 768p Pany versus a 1080p Insignia. If you must buy the Insignia, then you better purchase the extended warranty, because chances are you will need it. Add-up the total cost, and you may see that you can afford a 1080p Pany after all....

I think if you did reviews on cnet alot less people would get ripped off

[ricky tee78]

couple of thoughts....

it's useless saying "768p", its 720p. The only time you will see those extra 48 lines of resolution is with an analog signal from a computer.

also, 1080i is a useless statement. a 720p tv has max resolution of 768 vertical lines. You're not going to grow over 300 lines of resolution like some kind of miracle. if you set a 720p TV to 1080i, all your doing is watching in 720i.

theres only a few tv's that can do 1080i (other then 1080p TV's of course) and those are some Hitachi's...

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Now back to your question. Insignia is a garbage television. If you go to Best Buy and talk to a salesmen about them, they will feed you this retail story of how Insignia is made by LG. Well a slight reality check for everyone... LG provides the parts for roughly 60% of all flat panel TV's on the market. (the only TV's I know of to NOT be made with LG parts are Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, and Pioneer, and oddly enough, they are regarded to be the best 4 TV's on the market).

My personal opinion on what TV someone should get, Samsung LCD's slightly better then Sony and are also cheaper. Plasma's, Panasonic's are pretty close if not even with Pioneer's, and are alot cheaper.