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Old 03-17-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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Someone please provide a technical explanation of the DVD "upconvert" process available on some players, and your opinion of the quality. I own a Sony S300 Blu-ray player and I do notice a significant improvement in picture quality of my DVDs. How is this accomplished? Is the Sony S300 one of the best at upconverting DVDs? Is an upconverted DVD almost as good as Blu-ray? Any response appreciated -thanks.

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Old 03-17-2008, 03:47 PM   #2
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This can give you a first idea:
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdb...vdbasics12.htm

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Upscaling is a process that mathematically matches the pixel count of the output of the DVD signal to the physical pixel count on an HDTV, which is typically 1280x720 (720p) or 1920x1080 (1080i).

720p represents 1,280 pixels displayed across the screen horizontally and 720 pixels down the screen vertically. This arrangement yields 720 horizontal lines on the screen, which are, in turn, displayed progressively, or each line displayed following another.

1080i represents 1,920 pixels displayed across a screen horizontally and 1,080 pixels down a screen vertically. This arrangement yields 1,080 horizontal lines, which are, in turn, displayed alternately. In other words, all the odd lines are displayed, followed by all the even lines.
He is wrong after that about the "best" cable being analog component, the best is of course HDMI (digital component).
Also he does not mention 1080p, which can now be done by some DVD upscalers (like the Oppo 981).

The thing is, for an article destined to newcomers to HD, I am glad that he specifies that

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Don't confuse upscaling of standard DVDs with the native high definition output resolutions of Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Upscaling of standard DVDs is an appoximation of high definition, while Blu-ray and HD-DVD are true high definition sources.
Of course, HD DVD being dead ...
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search function....search function.....
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:23 PM   #4
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To Sardaukar1977:

I did try search function as you suggested, but it came up empty on topic - no previous threads. Any links appreciated - thanks.


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" search function....search function..... "


To Sardaukar1977:

I did try search function as you suggested, but it came up empty on topic - no previous threads. Any links appreciated - thanks.
Welllll, in this thread, which you started: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...946#post697946 , you, yourself ask essentially the same questions, and you've already advised everyone that you see no significant benefit via BD vs. upconversion (sic).

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Just wached my first Blu-ray (3:10 To Yuma). Great movie. But I must say I was not that impressed with the HD quality. I previously watched Indiana Jones movie in regular DVD format, and to be truthful, I could not really see any difference between the regular DVD and Blu-ray - that is, based only on these two movie comparisons. Is it just me, and maybe poor eyesight (I do have 20/20 vision)? Or were my expectations too high for Blu-ray?

John
Other than a technical explanation of "upconversion", how is this thread any different?

FYI, upconversion is the process used to change, say, analogue inputs to HDMI output. Upscaling is the process used to enhance 480i input to 1080p output.
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To RUR:

Not sure I understand your response - they are two entirely different threads, different subjects, that you refer to. You seem to be upset that I asked a question on DVD upconvert - therefore please remove yourself from this conversation. Apoligize if I offended you.

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Not sure I understand your response - they are two entirely different threads, different subjects, that you refer to. You seem to be upset that I asked a question on DVD upconvert - therefore please remove yourself from this conversation. Apoligize if I offended you.
OK, let's summarize:

Thread #1 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...946#post697946
Summary of your OP points:
  • Not impressed with HD quality
  • "could not really see any difference between the regular DVD and Blu-ray"
  • "Is it just me/were my expectations too high for Blu-ray?"

This thread:
Summary of your OP points:
  • Explain upscaling process
  • Opinions of upscaled quality
  • "Is an upconverted DVD almost as good as Blu-ray?"

The common theme seems to be "Why isn't Blu-ray significantly better than upscaled SD DVD/Is upscaled SD DVD almost as good as Blu-ray?" and, as sardaukar tried to point out, there are plenty of existing threads on this topic.

BTW, I wasn't upset, though your request that I "remove myself" from this thread is presumptuous, to say the least.
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