"The Dark Knight" Version of the Joker Created by F. Paul Wilson? - Blu-ray Forum

J_UNTITLED · 01-14-2009, 03:48 PM

Apparently, author F. Paul Wilson has found all-too-similar traits in the latest big screen-portrayal of the Joker to his comic-bound version of the character from way back when.

Click here to check out io9's article on the debate which also has the link to check out F. Paul's claims as well as his original story.

Agree or disagree?

STARSCREAM · 01-14-2009, 04:22 PM

Weak. I'm sure they borrowed from many versions of the character. Plus, not just one can claim "they copie my version" as the joker has been portrayed pretty much the same throughout iterations, atleast the main underlying characteristics.

Sussudio · 01-14-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Weak.

+1

jono_0101 · 01-14-2009, 04:45 PM

super weak, ledger probably did a lot of research when deciding on how to play the character, and he might have come across this and added a little to his portrayal, but he probably took things from a lot of different versions of the joker

this guy is just trying to piggyback on the success of the movie

blooded predator · 01-14-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jono_0101

super weak, ledger probably did a lot of research when deciding on how to play the character, and he might have come across this and added a little to his portrayal, but he probably took things from a lot of different versions of the joker

this guy is just trying to piggyback on the success of the movie

+1000000000 totally agree with you unfortuneatly it probaly wont be the last time we get another poor attempt that somebody will try to come up with

McKellars · 01-19-2009, 02:36 PM

Yeah, and I came up with the new BatSuit.

thedarkangel1975 · 01-19-2009, 04:50 PM

It would be better if the Joker was inspired by Thomas F. Wilson who played Biff in Back To The Future. You can have the Joker going around calling everyone Butthead.

Sussudio · 01-19-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

It would be better if the Joker was inspired by Thomas F. Wilson who played Biff in Back To The Future. You can have the Joker going around calling everyone Butthead.

joker to batman: "ok BATS, why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here!"

P@t_Mtl · 01-19-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by J_UNTITLED

Apparently, author F. Paul Wilson has found all-too-similar traits in the latest big screen-portrayal of the Joker to his comic-bound version of the character from way back when.

Click here to check out io9's article on the debate which also has the link to check out F. Paul's claims as well as his original story.

Agree or disagree?

Would this then mean that he, Paul Wilson, stole the original idea from Bob Kane? The Joker is the Joker, there is not a million different way to play him. Like someone mention above, Heath Ledger probably spend time at DC Comics and started to read and look at the the incarnation of the Jokers over the years and then applied he his take on it. That is what a good actor does usualy.

superjoe89 · 01-20-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jono_0101

super weak, ledger probably did a lot of research when deciding on how to play the character, and he might have come across this and added a little to his portrayal, but he probably took things from a lot of different versions of the joker

this guy is just trying to piggyback on the success of the movie

And thats all i gotta say about that. Perfectly executed.

cajmoyper · 01-20-2009, 03:17 PM

I'm a little sketchy about the claims of anyone with a letter as a first name. (fart sound) to you F. Paul Wilson.

Liquid-Prince · 01-20-2009, 04:24 PM

Did you guys even read what he said? He just said he found similarities.

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Yeah, that's my Joker.

Am I saying they couldn't have come up with that Joker without me? Not at all. As I was watching I got hints of the infusion of anarchic nihilism I'd administered, but nothing to write an email about…until the interrogation room scenes and his scene in the hospital with Harvey Dent. I watched those multiple times, recognized the seductive evil a work, and realized the emailers were right: Somebody somewhere along the line, in researching the character, had read [Wilson's short story from the 1989 prose anthology The Further Adventures of Batman] "Definitive Therapy." He may not even remember. I know I didn't realize that Matheson's "Born of Man and Woman" became my "Faces," and Lovecraft's "The Thing on the Doorstep" became Sibs until I reread their stories. It happens.

Am I gonna sue? Hell, no. First off, I can't. The Joker is not my character and the story was work for hire, so what I did with him belongs to DC. (As I've said before, When you play in someone else's sandbox, they get to keep your castle. This is why I don't do work for hire unless the sand is so special I've just gotta play with it. Like the Joker.)

And second, I think it's cool they liked my guy enough to put him to work in their film.

01-14-2009, 03:48 PM	#1
J_UNTITLED Power Member Member since:Jul 2006	"The Dark Knight" Version of the Joker Created by F. Paul Wilson? Apparently, author F. Paul Wilson has found all-too-similar traits in the latest big screen-portrayal of the Joker to his comic-bound version of the character from way back when. Click here to check out io9's article on the debate which also has the link to check out F. Paul's claims as well as his original story. Agree or disagree?

01-14-2009, 04:22 PM	#2
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Weak. I'm sure they borrowed from many versions of the character. Plus, not just one can claim "they copie my version" as the joker has been portrayed pretty much the same throughout iterations, atleast the main underlying characteristics. Last edited by STARSCREAM; 01-14-2009 at 04:26 PM.

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01-14-2009, 04:45 PM	#4
jono_0101 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Location:St. Louis Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:7	super weak, ledger probably did a lot of research when deciding on how to play the character, and he might have come across this and added a little to his portrayal, but he probably took things from a lot of different versions of the joker this guy is just trying to piggyback on the success of the movie

01-19-2009, 02:36 PM	#6
McKellars Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Detroit, Michigan Blu-ray collection:24	Yeah, and I came up with the new BatSuit.

01-19-2009, 04:50 PM	#7
thedarkangel1975 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Pennsylvania 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:374 DVD collection:12 Digital collection:357 Blu-ray reviews: 1	It would be better if the Joker was inspired by Thomas F. Wilson who played Biff in Back To The Future. You can have the Joker going around calling everyone Butthead.

01-20-2009, 03:17 PM	#11
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	I'm a little sketchy about the claims of anyone with a letter as a first name. (fart sound) to you F. Paul Wilson.

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