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Old 01-29-2009, 11:14 PM   #1
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Many people thought DVD would be the last way to view movies at home......my question is who believes that blu ray is the last?

Honestly, I really don't see how much better home video could be. Blu ray looks like it does in the theater, simply amazing!!
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:18 PM   #2
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I think it will be the last physical media...
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:26 PM   #3
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they are already working on a new disc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc but i think blu ray will be the best home viewing thing for a lonnnng timeee
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:34 PM   #4
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There will always be something "NEW" in the pipeline, however it's gunna be hard to beat Blu-ray with anything that will 'stick'...& I don't know about the rest of you but I'm more than happy with BD. I would be good for the next 50yrs or so!
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:36 PM   #5
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It may be the last CD size media.
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:41 PM   #6
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Many people thought DVD would be the last way to view movies at home......my question is who believes that blu ray is the last?

Honestly, I really don't see how much better home video could be. Blu ray looks like it does in the theater, simply amazing!!
I said this in another thread, but unless you've hit 65 and are collecting your Social Security check, I would certainly hope you would live long enough to see the next format or two (I also hope that anyone who has hit 65 still lives long enough as well). Technology is going to keep improving and I would hope at least some small part of that improvement is directed at home entertainment.

Do I want Blu-Ray to last a good long time? Yes. Will I drop it like a slutty lover when something better comes out? Hell yes.
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:42 PM   #7
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Many people thought DVD would be the last way to view movies at home......my question is who believes that blu ray is the last?

Honestly, I really don't see how much better home video could be. Blu ray looks like it does in the theater, simply amazing!!
blu-ray movies look better than in the theaters

i'm thinking that blu-ray will be the last disc-based media that is used for movie playback at home.
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:43 PM   #8
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I think your right about it being the last cd media. I can see something more along the lines of movies coming on thumb drives in 10 years or so. I think you'll defiantly see a terabyte thumb drive in 10 years. Prices are falling so much.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:02 AM   #9
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blu-ray movies look better than in the theaters
You must have the same kind of crappy theaters around you that I do, cuz blus definitely look better to me.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:05 AM   #10
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Developers are always about 5 years ahead of what we see. And in their minds, they are thinking 20 years ahead. No way blu is the last disc format, and I do not think that digital will catch on. People may find it ok, buying digital music, because who likes carrying around a cd player and a ton of cd's in their car. But people love collecting movies. Why would steelbooks and collector's editions be so sought after. People love them. And I know that I love to physically have my movies. But again to answer the question, no blu is not the last disc format.
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:31 AM   #11
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If you think technology is going to halt because you like your shiny new toys...... you're fooling yourself.......

There will be new.... and yes.... "Better"

It will be a long time, and it will likely only appeal to home-theater enthusiast for the first 5 years of its life..... but something new will certainly come.
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:13 AM   #12
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Developers are always about 5 years ahead of what we see. And in their minds, they are thinking 20 years ahead. No way blu is the last disc format, and I do not think that digital will catch on. People may find it ok, buying digital music, because who likes carrying around a cd player and a ton of cd's in their car. But people love collecting movies. Why would steelbooks and collector's editions be so sought after. People love them. And I know that I love to physically have my movies. But again to answer the question, no blu is not the last disc format.
Very well said! Definitely not the last format or even the last optical format. As far as downloads being the future I'll believe it when I see it.
Downloaded music/mp3 is for convenience period and not without sacrifices.Anyone who says they can't tell the difference between the actual cd and a mp3 regardless of bit rate is deaf in IMO. However I'm willing to sacrifice some quality to be able to put 10,000 songs in my pocket when I leave my car. There is no reason to make the same sacrifices at your home whether its music or movies. You want convenience and quality at home use a service like netflix. All the benefits no sacrifices, other than waiting for a movie. The thought of downloading a movie is just stupid to me.
Example of the 360's HD content specs:
Downloads are in VC-1 (aka WMVHD) at 720p, 6.8Mbps video with 5.1 surround.
Nowhere near what blu-ray offers so why bother.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:21 AM   #13
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I hope that this isn't the last physical media. Read an interesting article about a black hole on the 21st century. So much information on the internet can and will vanish forever with the simple flick of a switch. The White House website, completely changed, everything about Bush is gone permanently. The Olympics in Australia in 2000, gone. None of these are backed up anywhere. Who is to say that the same thing won't happen with non physical media. How many movies will we never be able to get again with draconian anti-resale measures. I doubt that there is very high demand for a movie like Mardi Gras Massacre which may never show up on any streaming/download service. It was relatively easily available on E-bay. 50 years from now, can that be said?

They will have to allow the option of some way to be able to transfer ownership of a movie to prevent it from vanishing from the public eye forever once people have disposed of their physical media players.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:22 AM   #14
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Nah...

bluray will last for a while, like DVD did, maybe even less. I kind of hope it will be the last optical disc format. I wish for movies to be stored flash drives, or memory cards (SD, XD, CompactFlash). That would be wicked sweet.

There's always new technology emerging, such as; discs/tv's/players with native resolution 2160p, 3-d (which is a loooooong ways away i think), oled tv's (not any better than lcd or plasma imo though - check out the specs and price for the first oled tv on sony's website), so on and so on.

i'm fine with any physical media... i'm happy as long as movies/music don't go mainstream downloading/streaming.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:23 AM   #15
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Blu-Ray is just amazing, and it's still catching on it will be around for ages to come. I don't see how they can make it much better.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:36 AM   #16
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Blu-Ray is just amazing, and it's still catching on it will be around for ages to come. I don't see how they can make it much better.
The only reason I see the need to go beyond 1080p is if the screen is extremely big relative to where you are sitting. You can have it taking up the entire width of you're view and you'll be hard pushed for an even higher resolution to be noticable. (there's a THX excel style file that explains this, but I currently cannot find it).

More on topic, I think Blu Ray will be the last disk (at least for in a long time) that stores movies (it will slowly move to downloads though I believe). However it'll be a while untill that will be feasible whilst maintaning the quality of blu ray.

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Old 01-30-2009, 08:32 AM   #17
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I think it would last a lot longer then dvds did, If they choose to make the PQ a better quality and use more storage there's always that 500gig blu ray disk they've been working on. In 10 years or so it might be bigger then 50gig but it will still be blu rays.
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:41 AM   #18
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I can't relate to thinking DVD would be the last... I sort of thought it was the first worthwhile format.

Blu Ray is better in every way but DVD was watchable and didn't get damaged when used like VHS did. (And,.. LD looks pretty bad unless you have a good video processor.)
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The only reason I see the need to go beyond 1080p is if the screen is extremely big relative to where you are sitting. You can have it taking up the entire width of you're view and you'll be hard pushed for an even higher resolution to be noticable. (there's a THX excel style file that explains this, but I currently cannot find it).

More on topic, I think Blu Ray will be the last disk (at least for in a long time) that stores movies (it will slowly move to downloads though I believe). However it'll be a while untill that will be feasible whilst maintaning the quality of blu ray.
Well, I can agree that technology always moves forward, but I've never bought that dig-download theory working. If Blu-ray has a lifespan similar to DVD, maybe a ten year span or so, it's possible digital downloads will be much more feasable. Drives would have to be huge to hold the 30 gig or so HD movies. Download speeds would have to have increased a lot more than what we have now.
And are these new drives going to be reliable enough to have you trust your collection on? I have seen a lot of computer hard drives die on me over the years, I always back up and copy things I treasure. I'd hate to trust my movie collection to a hard drive.
And then theres going to be what? A type of home player with a huge built-in drive storing your entire collection? I'm up around 1700 movies, with 400 or so on blu-ray...
What happens when that player dies? and... are the movies even going to be transferable to another machine? (providing of course one can even salvage the priceless drive's contents...
I'll stick with physical media unless they offer me something really special. I like physical media. I like getting and giving movies to friends and family on Christmas and Birthdays. I can't see that happening with downloads.
Lastly, although I'm sure the movie industry will want to sell their movies once again on yet another type of media or format to get the payday once more, how much better can this get?
The movies already look pretty much equal to the studio master on a good transfer. Where else are they going to take this? Turning a non 3D movie into 3D...? I can't say I would want my classic movies altered like that. I'm a purist.
Maybe new films will offer something new to audiences filmed on some advanced holographic camera system, but the movies we know and love from the classics to what is being churned out daily right now can only show us what they are...
As to beyond 1080p, your right, it would make a difference on really large screens, but how many people are going to want or be able to go to that kind of size?
Personally, if my place was bigger, I guess I could see myself going to a movie theatre size screen, but I am not in a huge place.
And that's the other factor, the girlfriend/wife factor.
Most females are only grugingly accepting the 40 to 50 or so inch screens as it is. That type of feeling might change in the fairer sex in ten years or so, but I somehow doubt it.
I'm single, so I buy what I want, when I want it and can afford it. Most of my friends and work collegues have to knuckle under to their wives and girlfriends. A lot of the guys I know who haven't progressed to HD blame their reluctant mates for it. "She won't let me." or: "She says she can't tell the difference from regular DVDs" to: She doesn't want to get a larger TV, cause it won't fit in the entertainment center."
Sheesh!
It's going to be one hard sell to get another system sold to consumers, especially the female ones, or get really huge sets into your place with your significant other glaring at you like you just cheated on her with her little sister.
And that probably means the average home owner without a very large room or space is still going to be watching 50 or 60 inches at best.
And at 50, 60 inches, are we going to notice a difference beyond 1080p?
I think blu-ray is liable to be around at least 10 years...
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With just a small portion of the world now having converted over to 1080i/p(be it HDTV or BD).
I believe it's going to be sometime before the next step.
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