Ive learnt to love the black bars - Blu-ray Forum

Stu123 · 06-21-2010, 10:03 AM

I admit ive been one of those people who have come on here moaning about the black bars when i first started using the website.I've learnt that wider ratios are better as they show more information,are more detailed and everything dosent look as close to the camera.I think the people who don't like them probably have small sets.Ive even been one of those people who have even distorted the image with using different tv ratio settings but with the help of people in here ive educated myself to know watching a movie in its original ratio with pixel by pixel setting is the only way you should watch it.I now enjoy watching them with the black bars.I would say though to get that real big screen feel with a 2.40:1 movie youd need at least a 52" my 46" feels a bit small with a 2.40:1 movie.

p.s to hollywood please dont go more than 2.40:1 though i'll need a 65"

NorCo_1806 · 06-21-2010, 01:32 PM

hey there 'doo....glad you're adjusting well.

Wanted to mention, I have a 65" and I too love the 2.40 films. Seriously makes them feel more like FILMS....not just movies.

Do you ever get the sense that the outer edges are taller than the middle of the picture? Mine, ever so often (and maybe after a few drinks) tends to look like a curved screen! ...maybe I shouldn't be chewing on the window molding above 3-feet??

Blu-Benny · 06-21-2010, 01:40 PM

This is one thing I always hated explaining to people when I worked @ best buy and dvd’s just came out.

I used to keep a copy of ghostbusters on hand and when someone would complain about the black bars I’d throw it in, go to a specific scene (can’t remember which one) and show them the widescreen on one tv and the pan & scan on another and they could actually see the widescreen giving them more picture.

My brother in law still complains about them though!!

I’ve given up on him.

Morrissey · 06-21-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCo_1806

hey there 'doo....glad you're adjusting well.

Wanted to mention, I have a 65" and I too love the 2.40 films. Seriously makes them feel more like FILMS....not just movies.

Do you ever get the sense that the outer edges are taller than the middle of the picture? Mine, ever so often (and maybe after a few drinks) tends to look like a curved screen! ...maybe I shouldn't be chewing on the window molding above 3-feet??

SpaceDog · 06-21-2010, 02:11 PM

Original Aspect Ratio and the black bars that come with it are indeed something that someone has to learn to like. Without understanding that the bars allow for more picture, not less, you certainly wouldn't like it.

The most important thing is that you opened yourself to that learning experience

Now if you'll go on and convince others

Mr. Joshua · 06-21-2010, 04:37 PM

I have a good friend I have been working on for years. He would rather give up more picture to have full screen with no black bars. I told him he is losing picture and in some cases up to 50% with Jaws for example. He said the stuff he was not seeing was not important. I have given up on this lost cause....

bhampton · 06-21-2010, 05:17 PM

I love them too,... so peaceful. I find myself forgetting the movie and just losing myself to the void of the Black Bars. It's like heaven in some way, just tune the rest out.

HAMP · 06-21-2010, 06:51 PM

They never bothered me and I have always gotten widescreen. Funny thing about the widescreen that gets me is, when a movie such as 'Batman' and 'Transformers 2' will jump from the widescreen to a full IMAX for a short few scenes. When that happens, I do enjoy the full screen, but then get a little bothered when it goes back to the blackbars.

Since I am able to block out the blackbars, they go and pull a full screen on me to make it harder to block out the bars, because just a moment ago, I had seen a full screen.

HD Man · 06-21-2010, 07:01 PM

The bars don't bother me at all. Once you see the difference, it's almost impssible to go back.

I still remember during the early days of DVD when you had an option to buy full-screen or wide-screen versions and how my brother interupted a movie, (one of the Mummy's) saying something was wrong, only find out his wife bought the full-screen version.

ewsjr · 06-21-2010, 07:12 PM

What I always used to tell people was in some economic terms like would you pay for four new tires for your car but be happy when the company only put three on your car. That's what you are doing when you pay full price and then watch a full screen movie, you're throwing away a minimum of 25% of your investment. People still don't seem to get it though.

Blown 4.3 · 06-22-2010, 01:25 AM

the black bars blow chunks !!! always hated em !!! you guys can make excusses to like them. i'm not buyin it. the only reason i went projector was to get a larger pic than my 65" dlp could give me. the black bars cause 25%ish of your screen to NOT be used.

i don't have to worry about that now. i shift the image down to the bottom of the screen, and mask the top

wormraper · 06-22-2010, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blown 4.3

the black bars blow chunks !!! always hated em !!! you guys can make excusses to like them. i'm not buyin it. the only reason i went projector was to get a larger pic than my 65" dlp could give me. the black bars cause 25%ish of your screen to NOT be used.

i don't have to worry about that now. i shift the image down to the bottom of the screen, and mask the top

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. The excuse of "It's the directors intent to show a picture that way. Ok, huge excuse

FlipperWasIrish · 06-22-2010, 06:41 AM

I have no problem with the black bars, but some people do. As long as I can view in OAR (or close to it) I am happy.

It's not a matter of right or wrong, what matters is what a person likes. (IMO) As long as person is happy let them watch anyway they like it.

Buddy Christ · 06-22-2010, 06:56 AM

I wish for people to stop calling them black bars.

I do not see them as black bars but just areas missing information. Meaning there is nothing covering anything. Just your Tv is temporarily the wrong size for the movie.

FlipperWasIrish · 06-22-2010, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu2U

I wish for people to stop calling them black bars.

I do not see them as black bars but just areas missing information. Meaning there is nothing covering anything. Just your Tv is temporarily the wrong size for the movie.

I guess you mean a "vortex without light buffering the edges of your movie"...

Stu123 · 06-23-2010, 09:47 PM

I wish I had a bigger tv though. I'm very surprised about someone saying he was still bothered about them on a 65" I think once I got to 55" then a 2:40.1 movie would look big enough for me if I got close to the screen.Even when I was complaining about them I already knew pan and scan was horrible as it's not just cutting information it's cutting picture quality too with zooming

BigLuvJason · 06-23-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua

I have a good friend I have been working on for years. He would rather give up more picture to have full screen with no black bars. I told him he is losing picture and in some cases up to 50% with Jaws for example. He said the stuff he was not seeing was not important. I have given up on this lost cause....

people just dont get it......OAR is best! If thats the way they filmed it then its the best way to watch it!

STARSCREAM · 06-23-2010, 10:40 PM

I hate the black bars. Yes, I like OAR and yes I watch with the black bars still there BUT I still hate them. Would be awesome if they eventually made a tv that could do it's own masking for movies.

ScarredLungs · 06-23-2010, 10:45 PM

i love them as well. A few years ago I decided to force myself to watch movies with black bars.

ZoetMB · 06-23-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

I hate the black bars. Yes, I like OAR and yes I watch with the black bars still there BUT I still hate them. Would be awesome if they eventually made a tv that could do it's own masking for movies.

What do you mean, "it's own masking"? That's what the black bars are.

06-21-2010, 10:03 AM	#1
Stu123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Hadley's Hope on LV-426 4K collection:260 Blu-ray collection:559 DVD collection:392 Trading Score:9	Ive learnt to love the black bars I admit ive been one of those people who have come on here moaning about the black bars when i first started using the website.I've learnt that wider ratios are better as they show more information,are more detailed and everything dosent look as close to the camera.I think the people who don't like them probably have small sets.Ive even been one of those people who have even distorted the image with using different tv ratio settings but with the help of people in here ive educated myself to know watching a movie in its original ratio with pixel by pixel setting is the only way you should watch it.I now enjoy watching them with the black bars.I would say though to get that real big screen feel with a 2.40:1 movie youd need at least a 52" my 46" feels a bit small with a 2.40:1 movie. p.s to hollywood please dont go more than 2.40:1 though i'll need a 65"

06-21-2010, 01:32 PM	#2
NorCo_1806 Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Colorado Home Theater Gallery:41 Blu-ray collection:465 DVD collection:94 Trading Score:1	hey there 'doo....glad you're adjusting well. Wanted to mention, I have a 65" and I too love the 2.40 films. Seriously makes them feel more like FILMS....not just movies. Do you ever get the sense that the outer edges are taller than the middle of the picture? Mine, ever so often (and maybe after a few drinks) tends to look like a curved screen! ...maybe I shouldn't be chewing on the window molding above 3-feet??

06-21-2010, 01:40 PM	#3
Blu-Benny Michael Bay's #1 Fan Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:108 Trading Score:138	This is one thing I always hated explaining to people when I worked @ best buy and dvd’s just came out. I used to keep a copy of ghostbusters on hand and when someone would complain about the black bars I’d throw it in, go to a specific scene (can’t remember which one) and show them the widescreen on one tv and the pan & scan on another and they could actually see the widescreen giving them more picture. My brother in law still complains about them though!! I’ve given up on him.

06-21-2010, 02:11 PM	#5
SpaceDog Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Raleigh, NC Blu-ray collection:116	Original Aspect Ratio and the black bars that come with it are indeed something that someone has to learn to like. Without understanding that the bars allow for more picture, not less, you certainly wouldn't like it. The most important thing is that you opened yourself to that learning experience Now if you'll go on and convince others

06-21-2010, 04:37 PM	#6
Mr. Joshua Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:153	I have a good friend I have been working on for years. He would rather give up more picture to have full screen with no black bars. I told him he is losing picture and in some cases up to 50% with Jaws for example. He said the stuff he was not seeing was not important. I have given up on this lost cause....

06-21-2010, 05:17 PM	#7
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	I love them too,... so peaceful. I find myself forgetting the movie and just losing myself to the void of the Black Bars. It's like heaven in some way, just tune the rest out.

06-21-2010, 06:51 PM	#8
HAMP Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Michigan Home Theater Gallery:13 Blu-ray collection:272 Trading Score:1	They never bothered me and I have always gotten widescreen. Funny thing about the widescreen that gets me is, when a movie such as 'Batman' and 'Transformers 2' will jump from the widescreen to a full IMAX for a short few scenes. When that happens, I do enjoy the full screen, but then get a little bothered when it goes back to the blackbars. Since I am able to block out the blackbars, they go and pull a full screen on me to make it harder to block out the bars, because just a moment ago, I had seen a full screen.

06-21-2010, 07:01 PM	#9
HD Man Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Wash, DC area Blu-ray collection:253 Trading Score:2	The bars don't bother me at all. Once you see the difference, it's almost impssible to go back. I still remember during the early days of DVD when you had an option to buy full-screen or wide-screen versions and how my brother interupted a movie, (one of the Mummy's) saying something was wrong, only find out his wife bought the full-screen version.

06-21-2010, 07:12 PM	#10
ewsjr Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Akron, Ohio Home Theater Gallery:78	What I always used to tell people was in some economic terms like would you pay for four new tires for your car but be happy when the company only put three on your car. That's what you are doing when you pay full price and then watch a full screen movie, you're throwing away a minimum of 25% of your investment. People still don't seem to get it though.

06-22-2010, 01:25 AM	#11
Blown 4.3 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:2	the black bars blow chunks !!! always hated em !!! you guys can make excusses to like them. i'm not buyin it. the only reason i went projector was to get a larger pic than my 65" dlp could give me. the black bars cause 25%ish of your screen to NOT be used. i don't have to worry about that now. i shift the image down to the bottom of the screen, and mask the top

06-22-2010, 06:41 AM	#13
FlipperWasIrish Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008	I have no problem with the black bars, but some people do. As long as I can view in OAR (or close to it) I am happy. It's not a matter of right or wrong, what matters is what a person likes. (IMO) As long as person is happy let them watch anyway they like it.

06-22-2010, 06:56 AM	#14
Buddy Christ Power Member Member since:Aug 2009 Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:142 Blu-ray reviews:7	I wish for people to stop calling them black bars. I do not see them as black bars but just areas missing information. Meaning there is nothing covering anything. Just your Tv is temporarily the wrong size for the movie.

06-23-2010, 09:47 PM	#16
Stu123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Hadley's Hope on LV-426 4K collection:260 Blu-ray collection:559 DVD collection:392 Trading Score:9	I wish I had a bigger tv though. I'm very surprised about someone saying he was still bothered about them on a 65" I think once I got to 55" then a 2:40.1 movie would look big enough for me if I got close to the screen.Even when I was complaining about them I already knew pan and scan was horrible as it's not just cutting information it's cutting picture quality too with zooming

06-23-2010, 10:40 PM	#18
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	I hate the black bars. Yes, I like OAR and yes I watch with the black bars still there BUT I still hate them. Would be awesome if they eventually made a tv that could do it's own masking for movies.

06-23-2010, 10:45 PM	#19
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	i love them as well. A few years ago I decided to force myself to watch movies with black bars.

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