The New Yamahas Are Here!

[kingofgrills]

I just went to Yamaha's website and found out they just released their new wave of A/V receivers for 2009. The biggest news is that full HDMI lossless audio processing and HD audio decoding makes it's way down the line, all the way to the new RX-V465 5.1 channel receiver. Hopefully, the on-screen GUIs have improved as well.

The replacement for the RX-V663 is the new RX-V665. It adds 2 HDMI inputs (4 total), 1080p upscaling, and has a new blue display (now on all new receivers). However, the amplifier section was stepped down slightly from the 663, which is a shame. It lists for $549, matching the suggested price of the RX-V663.

In order to get the same amplifier section of the 663 (665 total watts, 90 X 7 channels 20 Hz to 20kHz), you need to step up to the RX-V765. I don't see a new replacement for the RX-V863 yet though. It better not be the RX-V765. I hope Yamaha doesn't kill the 863's amplifier/power supply from the RX-V line, because it's really good.

Here they are:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/?lid=SPLAS...YECHome&lpos=A

[lutefisk69]

Just went down to the dealer. Saw the 09 R1 there. They told me it has 180Hp at the wheel..........oh, wrong forum sorry.

[masc360]

does anyone know if frys or best buy has them yet? i would love to be able to go and see them.

[Hendricks4333]

Originally Posted by lutefisk69

Just went down to the dealer. Saw the 09 R1 there. They told me it has 180Hp at the wheel..........oh, wrong forum sorry.

The new R1 is so ugly. ughhh. If your going for an ugly bike the Honda 1000 is the obv winner.

[kingofgrills]

Originally Posted by masc360

does anyone know if frys or best buy has them yet? i would love to be able to go and see them.

I doubt it. Definitely call ahead before burning the gas. Last spring, the 63 series was on Yamaha's web site for a good 4-6 weeks before appearing on store shelves.

What this does mean for now is that you'll start seeing sales for 663 and 863 once dealers get their new order sheets and see new '09 models.

[Yeha-Noha]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

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In order to get the same amplifier section of the 663 (665 total watts, 90 X 7 channels 20 Hz to 20kHz), you need to step up to the RX-V765. I don't see a new replacement for the RX-V863 yet though. It better not be the RX-V765. I hope Yamaha doesn't kill the 863's amplifier/power supply from the RX-V line, because it's really good.

Here they are:

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/?lid=SPLAS...YECHome&lpos=A

The V663 doesn't deliver 7 x 90 W continuous watts though. Those specifications were based on 500ms tone bursts. The small V663 power supply is only rated at 400 Watts. Don't expect more than 55 - 60 Watts continous with all 7 channels driven.

The yamaha site gives these specifications for the new RX-V series:

RX V665: 7-channel 630W powerful surround sound (90W x 7)
RX V765: 7-channel 665W powerful surround sound (95W x 7)

Jeez, there's no significant difference there. However, I would download the manuals, then go to the specifications page to find out how the power supply ratings compare.

I would think, just speculation, that the V765 will have a bigger power supply. And, if that is the case, I would expect the V765 to deliver more continuous Watts per channel with all 7 channels driven.

I wonder if the new V665 fixed the BTB and WTW clipping issue. Also, I would hope that it is supplied with a more powerful DSP chip that would allow one to matrix bitstreamed DTS-HD MA 5.1 to 7.1 channels.

[nezff]

I see alot of manuf. knocking the weight down a bit with different power ratings and power supplies. Onkyo did this with the 806, now Yamaha knocking the power ratings down also.

[got rice]

Style points for the Blue LCD instead of the orange.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by got rice

Style points for the Blue LCD instead of the orange.

Its Amber ,Personal like it better then the blue.

There putting out recievers fast but i don't see big improvements.I mean you can add more hdmi in and outs ,change the colour of the LCD, maybe down the road change the look of the recievers all together but If there's no improvement to the sound then its just another great yamaha reciever.

Well i guess iam trying to say for myself i guess I'll be holding on to mine for a little while

That's just my two cents

[Sling]

hmm maybe my 663 will break unreparable before warranty drys up and Bestbuy will replace with 665.
Don't get me wrong...I love my 663 but falling in love with 665.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by ozzman

Its Amber ,Personal like it better then the blue.

There putting out recievers fast but i don't see big improvements.I mean you can add more hdmi in and outs ,change the colour of the LCD, maybe down the road change the look of the recievers all together but If there's no improvement to the sound then its just another great yamaha reciever.

Well i guess iam trying to say for myself i guess I'll be holding on to mine for a little while

That's just my two cents

Ditto!

[masc360]

I was just at frys, and they had the 365 and the 465, dont know why they didnt have any of the other models.

[Keiths Light]

Anyone know when these will be available in Canada?

[kingofgrills]

Originally Posted by rwojtalewicz

The V663 doesn't deliver 7 x 90 W continuous watts though. Those specifications were based on 500ms tone bursts. The small V663 power supply is only rated at 400 Watts. Don't expect more than 55 - 60 Watts continous with all 7 channels driven.

The yamaha site gives these specifications for the new RX-V series:

RX V665: 7-channel 630W powerful surround sound (90W x 7)
RX V765: 7-channel 665W powerful surround sound (95W x 7)

Jeez, there's no significant difference there. However, I would download the manuals, then go to the specifications page to find out how the power supply ratings compare.

I would think, just speculation, that the V765 will have a bigger power supply. And, if that is the case, I would expect the V765 to deliver more continuous Watts per channel with all 7 channels driven.

I wonder if the new V665 fixed the BTB and WTW clipping issue. Also, I would hope that it is supplied with a more powerful DSP chip that would allow one to matrix bitstreamed DTS-HD MA 5.1 to 7.1 channels.

Be careful how you evaluate ratings. The 665's ratings are shown at 1kHz, and not rated full range, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, so they'd be lower than what's published under a full rating. Also, yes, Yamaha is not quoting a continuous power rating - I never indicated that either. Dig into the web site and compare the 663, 665, and 765 in terms of ratings and receiver weight, which gives a strong indication of the power supply / amp section. The outgoing 663 is 7.5 lbs heavier than the 665, and it's 2 lbs heavier than the 765.

[blu master]

The HTR series have some new ones to.

[Yeha-Noha]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

Be careful how you evaluate ratings. The 665's ratings are shown at 1kHz, and not rated full range, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, so they'd be lower than what's published under a full rating. Also, yes, Yamaha is not quoting a continuous power rating - I never indicated that either. Dig into the web site and compare the 663, 665, and 765 in terms of ratings and receiver weight, which gives a strong indication of the power supply / amp section. The outgoing 663 is 7.5 lbs heavier than the 665, and it's 2 lbs heavier than the 765.

You got the point I was trying to make though. And, I think that is a valid assumption that the heavier power supply will give better performance. I would still double check that against the power consumption rating for the power supply.

[Ferris]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

I doubt it. Definitely call ahead before burning the gas. Last spring, the 63 series was on Yamaha's web site for a good 4-6 weeks before appearing on store shelves.

What this does mean for now is that you'll start seeing sales for 663 and 863 once dealers get their new order sheets and see new '09 models.

Actually, Amazon already has the 565:

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V565BL-7-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B001S2RD9K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1236478683&sr =1-1

[masc360]

i just picked up the 465 and have to say that is a great receiver. very easy to set up and i have to say it is way better than my old sony receiver was.

[Kai Winters]

I am looking forward to some head to head testing and reviews of some of the new receivers by websites and/or magazines.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

Be careful how you evaluate ratings. The 665's ratings are shown at 1kHz, and not rated full range, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, so they'd be lower than what's published under a full rating. Also, yes, Yamaha is not quoting a continuous power rating - I never indicated that either. Dig into the web site and compare the 663, 665, and 765 in terms of ratings and receiver weight, which gives a strong indication of the power supply / amp section. The outgoing 663 is 7.5 lbs heavier than the 665, and it's 2 lbs heavier than the 765.

Originally Posted by rwojtalewicz

You got the point I was trying to make though. And, I think that is a valid assumption that the heavier power supply will give better performance. I would still double check that against the power consumption rating for the power supply.

The bench tests showed neither the 663 or the 863 had the continuous wattage that was listed in the specs, I am only going to assume that there isn't gonna be much of a change in that with these 2 newer models either.