Upscaling? - Blu-ray Forum

Prelude2Elude · 05-24-2007, 02:54 PM

call me weird but i updated the ps3 to 1.80 this morning and thought i would check it out. first i put GT4 and i was amazed i can see the difference. then i put in the fast and the furious and kept switching from 480p to 1080p and i cant see the diiference. my question is is there a difference in picture quality between upscaling and blu ray?

Greenmatiz2 · 05-24-2007, 02:59 PM

Did you turn the upscaling on? You have to go in the DVD menus of the PS3 and enable it. Try "Full." Try different settings.

Yes, there is a huge difference between upscaling and BR. The difference is in the resolution. Before today, my TV was forced to upscale PS3-sent standard DVD video. It looked edgy, and rough... like it wasn't anti-aliased and had some semi-transparent lines through it every few millimeters or so. What upscaling does is clean this all up so you don't see the rough edges, basically. But you still have the same definition of the source material.

Hero_Sky · 05-24-2007, 05:54 PM

Is it possible to upscale using component?

minimoke · 05-24-2007, 06:00 PM

I'm downloading it as we speak. I hope it works with component.

Shin-Ra · 05-24-2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero_Sky

Is it possible to upscale using component?

Games yes, DVD's no.

minimoke · 05-24-2007, 06:19 PM

indeed, to bad, need an hdmi set soon.

Lsalas76 · 05-24-2007, 06:26 PM

I downloaded the 1.8 update yesterday and I did not see the difference in dvds nor in ps2 game(s). Smackdown vs Raw 2007 looked the same when upscaling was turned on or off. Same with dvds. My game and some Dvds that I tried looked cloudy/gloomy and old.

And then again I can't see much difference between blu-rays and dvds yet either and I have a 1080P HDTV. Also, my ps3 is connected via an HDMI cable.

dakota81 · 05-24-2007, 06:33 PM

I've got a 56" 1080p Samsung DLP, and there was a huge improvement in both dvd video quality, and I put in God of War 2, and game upscaling is just as spectacular - clears up a lot of the pixelated edges.

Lsalas76 · 05-24-2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakota81

I've got a 56" 1080p Samsung DLP, and there was a huge improvement in both dvd video quality, and I put in God of War 2, and game upscaling is just as spectacular - clears up a lot of the pixelated edges.

Really? I have a Samsung 61" 1080P and I still haven't been able to see the difference yet. Any ideas as to what the problem could be or what I'm doing wrong? My settings on my ps3 and tv are set to where they need to be and as I mentioned connected via hdmi.

jon s · 05-24-2007, 06:59 PM

The source DVD plays a very important role in upscaling DVDs. DVDs with high bit-rates (i.e. less compression) of 7-8 Mb/sec appears a lot more detailed than DVDs with lower bit-rates of 3-5Mb/sec.

If you watch Pixar's "The Incredibles" upscaled, the picture quality is impressive, nearly equaling high def. OTOH, watching the recent "King Kong" movie which is nearly 3 hours on one disc, results in a mediocre image, no matter what you do. You can only extract so much information from a movie, and if the DVD does not have the info, well.... you can't get anything from nothing. Same with Casino, the movie runs nearly three hours, so you will not see much improvement.

Remember that all the "special features", DTS and foreign language soundtracks all results in less space for the movie itself which means higher compression and less info in the movie. usually movies under 100 minutes or DVDs with no special features or added tracks will look better when upscaled.

Sony's so-called SuperBit titles may not be improved over their standard titles as they usually add DTS soundtracks which can take away several hundred megabytes of space on the disk. This depends if the original DVD had a lot of special features which may have taken more space than the DTS soundtrack would.

The Don · 05-24-2007, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lsalas76

I downloaded the 1.8 update yesterday and I did not see the difference in dvds nor in ps2 game(s). Smackdown vs Raw 2007 looked the same when upscaling was turned on or off. Same with dvds. My game and some Dvds that I tried looked cloudy/gloomy and old.

And then again I can't see much difference between blu-rays and dvds yet either and I have a 1080P HDTV. Also, my ps3 is connected via an HDMI cable.

you either have a defective TV or it is set up improperly...

05-24-2007, 02:54 PM	#1
Prelude2Elude Senior Member Member since:Mar 2007	Upscaling? call me weird but i updated the ps3 to 1.80 this morning and thought i would check it out. first i put GT4 and i was amazed i can see the difference. then i put in the fast and the furious and kept switching from 480p to 1080p and i cant see the diiference. my question is is there a difference in picture quality between upscaling and blu ray?

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05-24-2007, 02:59 PM	#2
Greenmatiz2 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	Did you turn the upscaling on? You have to go in the DVD menus of the PS3 and enable it. Try "Full." Try different settings. Yes, there is a huge difference between upscaling and BR. The difference is in the resolution. Before today, my TV was forced to upscale PS3-sent standard DVD video. It looked edgy, and rough... like it wasn't anti-aliased and had some semi-transparent lines through it every few millimeters or so. What upscaling does is clean this all up so you don't see the rough edges, basically. But you still have the same definition of the source material.

05-24-2007, 05:54 PM	#3
Hero_Sky Member Member since:Mar 2007	Is it possible to upscale using component?

05-24-2007, 06:00 PM	#4
minimoke Member Member since:Dec 2006	I'm downloading it as we speak. I hope it works with component.

05-24-2007, 06:19 PM	#6
minimoke Member Member since:Dec 2006	indeed, to bad, need an hdmi set soon.

05-24-2007, 06:26 PM	#7
Lsalas76 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:USA 4K collection:391 Blu-ray collection:831 DVD collection:29 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:225	I downloaded the 1.8 update yesterday and I did not see the difference in dvds nor in ps2 game(s). Smackdown vs Raw 2007 looked the same when upscaling was turned on or off. Same with dvds. My game and some Dvds that I tried looked cloudy/gloomy and old. And then again I can't see much difference between blu-rays and dvds yet either and I have a 1080P HDTV. Also, my ps3 is connected via an HDMI cable.

05-24-2007, 06:33 PM	#8
dakota81 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007	I've got a 56" 1080p Samsung DLP, and there was a huge improvement in both dvd video quality, and I put in God of War 2, and game upscaling is just as spectacular - clears up a lot of the pixelated edges.

05-24-2007, 06:59 PM	#10
jon s Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	The source DVD plays a very important role in upscaling DVDs. DVDs with high bit-rates (i.e. less compression) of 7-8 Mb/sec appears a lot more detailed than DVDs with lower bit-rates of 3-5Mb/sec. If you watch Pixar's "The Incredibles" upscaled, the picture quality is impressive, nearly equaling high def. OTOH, watching the recent "King Kong" movie which is nearly 3 hours on one disc, results in a mediocre image, no matter what you do. You can only extract so much information from a movie, and if the DVD does not have the info, well.... you can't get anything from nothing. Same with Casino, the movie runs nearly three hours, so you will not see much improvement. Remember that all the "special features", DTS and foreign language soundtracks all results in less space for the movie itself which means higher compression and less info in the movie. usually movies under 100 minutes or DVDs with no special features or added tracks will look better when upscaled. Sony's so-called SuperBit titles may not be improved over their standard titles as they usually add DTS soundtracks which can take away several hundred megabytes of space on the disk. This depends if the original DVD had a lot of special features which may have taken more space than the DTS soundtrack would.

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