New to the forum - Blu-ray Forum

ussrelativity · 06-01-2007, 07:28 PM

Hello everyone!

I'm new to the forum, even though I've been looking at this site for about two months now. I didn't know much about the format war until last year, when I looked up information regarding DVD's. I learned about HD-DVD, and was impressed with the jump in space per layer, and the ability to have 1920x1080 video stored and viewed, as opposed to the 720x480 video with a standard DVD. I didn't know much about Blu-Ray, until I learned of more details regarding the PS3. I decided to do some research into Blu-Ray, and was just blown away! 25GB per layer, as opposed to the 15GB for HD-DVD. Support for more than two layers, with the disc design. Overall, sure the cost was a little higher, but as a kind of person who likes to think in the long term, I certainly began supporting Blu-Ray all the way. It's got the exclusive support of MGM, which controls the Stargate franchise, 20th Century Fox, Sony Pictures, Disney, and Lionsgate. Not to mention Columbia/Tristar--all exclusively to Blu-Ray!

This information I learned over the past several months put me in the direction that Blu-Ray would certainly win. I am glad that Warner and Paramount support the format as well, but I would prefer exclusive support to Blu-Ray. I am dissapointed that Universal Studios has chosen to support HD-DVD exclusively, because with the media power of NBC/Universal, it just grinds my gears. Heroes, Battlestar Galactica, both great shows, are controlled by NBC/Universal.

I have decided to throw my word into the forum here now, and show my support for Blu-Ray. I don't have any HD equipment, since I don't have the kind of financing needed. Besides, I would prefer more assurance as time goes on that Blu-Ray will certainly win as a successor to DVD. I analyze movie trailers now to see which studio is distributing the film. I am excited when it is Sony, Fox, or MGM. When it is Universal, I am dissapointed somewhat. When it is Warner or Paramount, I am glad that it will be on Blu-Ray, but with HD-DVD as well, the format war is prolonged.

Instead of boycotts, I would certainly support encouraging the studio companies to support Blu-Ray exclusively, or in Universal's case, to support Blu-Ray as well. A smart letter campaign could go a long way, if done right.

When I do get a HDTV, it will be certainly 1080p, or no deal. The first Blu-Ray movie I will get will most likely be Stargate. I've discussed Blu-Ray over at GateWorld in the forum, since MGM does Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis.

That's my word for now. Glad to be here!

The Don · 06-01-2007, 07:34 PM

welcome aboard....hopefully you can experience high def soon...

you're really missing out

ussrelativity · 06-01-2007, 07:38 PM

Thanks for the welcome. I hope to experience HD movies and TV in the future........ as soon as I can get a job.

Got my AS degree earlier this year, that should help.

movies3 · 06-01-2007, 07:42 PM

welcome to the forum! im glad to see you do alot of finding the information yourself! Glad to have you with the Blu!

ussrelativity · 06-01-2007, 07:58 PM

I happen to be highly knowledgeable with technology, but I've only gotten into the high-def format info in the past year, and have only started posting here today.

The motivators for me with Blu-Ray are the high capacity per layer, cost within reason compared to HD-DVD, the studio support, especially MGM, the potential for the format, and of course, Stargate, which is owned by MGM.

Durability for me is a major plus. I researched into the manufacturing of Blu-Ray discs, and was surprised to see how they used to be made, before the redesign. A very smart move.

Acceleration of Blu-Ray winning would be a move my Warner and Paramount to go Blu-Ray exclusive, as obviously stated. To do so would require careful considerations with studio decisions. The sales numbers are a major factor, so as soon as the numbers become so far ahead for Blu-Ray, (not 3 to 1, but 8 to 1), would be a certain decisive factor. Having excellent sales is good, even with overwhelming numbers, but it would take even higher numbers to turn Universal. I'm not one to bash them over going with HD-DVD exclusive. They see the cost advantage in manufacturing, and they feel the advantage for it, which is their decision to make. It is nice to have a slightly cheaper player to manufacture, but with capacity, limitations are apparent. Blu-Ray image quality is now exceeding HD-DVD in a few titles. With proper production, the additional space per layer can pay off big time.

I'm in support of Warner and Paramount phasing out HD-DVD over the next year, and Universal being brought into the fold. For me, Blu-Ray is the way to go for the long haul. To go exclusive with Blu-Ray, and switch support to Blu-Ray will take time for Warner, Paramount, and Universal. It can't be done overnight. Good support from consumers to the studios, instead of boycotts will show to the studios that we want to see a quick end to the format war.

I do believe that Blu-Ray will win, but I'd prefer it within one year, instead of two or three. It's the smart decision.

movies3 · 06-01-2007, 08:01 PM

we would all love to see bluray win! oh and dont forget fox is only supporting bluray also. im hoping by the end of this summer we will see some big fox movies hit bluray

simcal · 06-01-2007, 08:02 PM

Hello and welcome! i wish you look on a well paying job to fund your BD future, I am thinking about taking a second job right now, but then when will i have time to watch anything?

ussrelativity · 06-01-2007, 08:15 PM

Well, from my being part of the Stargate fan community, I do know that MGM is producing two direct-to-DVD movies around Stargate SG-1. One is called Stargate: The Ark Of Truth, and the second is called Stargate: Continuum.

While these are coming directly to DVD later this year, I am unsure if these will also be available on Blu-Ray as well. If we get lucky, it just may happen.

Shin-Ra · 06-02-2007, 03:21 AM

If only everybody assessed the tech specs and studio support like you did, welcome aboard!

I love my 007 (got the VHS boxset that goes up to Goldeneye) but skipped on the DVD Ultimate set because I knew I could wait for the Blu-ray releases.

ussrelativity · 06-02-2007, 05:41 PM

Well said.

I've been explaining Blu-Ray a lot to my friends, and they seem to understand the idea well. My friend is planning on getting a PS3 later this year, so I mentioned to him about Blu-Ray.

zombieking · 06-02-2007, 09:25 PM

Welcome and enjoy! This is a very informative site!!

bluflu · 06-02-2007, 09:59 PM

Already sent in my fair share of letters.

Re: HD specs. Amazon has said similar things.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...BlurayandHDDVD

thunderhawk · 06-03-2007, 08:12 AM

Mmm...

Quote:

Because a Blu-ray player utilizes a shorter wavelength blue-violet laser than an HD DVD laser, it can focus even more closely to read more densely packed data.

Both use a 405 nm laser so that information is incorrect. BD does have a higher NA though.

By the way, welcome to the forums!

06-01-2007, 07:28 PM	#1
ussrelativity Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	New to the forum Hello everyone! I'm new to the forum, even though I've been looking at this site for about two months now. I didn't know much about the format war until last year, when I looked up information regarding DVD's. I learned about HD-DVD, and was impressed with the jump in space per layer, and the ability to have 1920x1080 video stored and viewed, as opposed to the 720x480 video with a standard DVD. I didn't know much about Blu-Ray, until I learned of more details regarding the PS3. I decided to do some research into Blu-Ray, and was just blown away! 25GB per layer, as opposed to the 15GB for HD-DVD. Support for more than two layers, with the disc design. Overall, sure the cost was a little higher, but as a kind of person who likes to think in the long term, I certainly began supporting Blu-Ray all the way. It's got the exclusive support of MGM, which controls the Stargate franchise, 20th Century Fox, Sony Pictures, Disney, and Lionsgate. Not to mention Columbia/Tristar--all exclusively to Blu-Ray! This information I learned over the past several months put me in the direction that Blu-Ray would certainly win. I am glad that Warner and Paramount support the format as well, but I would prefer exclusive support to Blu-Ray. I am dissapointed that Universal Studios has chosen to support HD-DVD exclusively, because with the media power of NBC/Universal, it just grinds my gears. Heroes, Battlestar Galactica, both great shows, are controlled by NBC/Universal. I have decided to throw my word into the forum here now, and show my support for Blu-Ray. I don't have any HD equipment, since I don't have the kind of financing needed. Besides, I would prefer more assurance as time goes on that Blu-Ray will certainly win as a successor to DVD. I analyze movie trailers now to see which studio is distributing the film. I am excited when it is Sony, Fox, or MGM. When it is Universal, I am dissapointed somewhat. When it is Warner or Paramount, I am glad that it will be on Blu-Ray, but with HD-DVD as well, the format war is prolonged. Instead of boycotts, I would certainly support encouraging the studio companies to support Blu-Ray exclusively, or in Universal's case, to support Blu-Ray as well. A smart letter campaign could go a long way, if done right. When I do get a HDTV, it will be certainly 1080p, or no deal. The first Blu-Ray movie I will get will most likely be Stargate. I've discussed Blu-Ray over at GateWorld in the forum, since MGM does Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis. That's my word for now. Glad to be here!

06-02-2007, 09:59 PM	#12
bluflu Special Member Member since:Mar 2007	It's boycott Universal time for me. Already sent in my fair share of letters. Re: HD specs. Amazon has said similar things. http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...BlurayandHDDVD

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06-01-2007, 07:34 PM	#2
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	welcome aboard....hopefully you can experience high def soon... you're really missing out

06-01-2007, 07:38 PM	#3
ussrelativity Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	Thanks for the welcome. I hope to experience HD movies and TV in the future........ as soon as I can get a job. Got my AS degree earlier this year, that should help.

06-01-2007, 07:42 PM	#4
movies3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Location:KY Blu-ray collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:56	welcome to the forum! im glad to see you do alot of finding the information yourself! Glad to have you with the Blu!

06-01-2007, 07:58 PM	#5
ussrelativity Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	I happen to be highly knowledgeable with technology, but I've only gotten into the high-def format info in the past year, and have only started posting here today. The motivators for me with Blu-Ray are the high capacity per layer, cost within reason compared to HD-DVD, the studio support, especially MGM, the potential for the format, and of course, Stargate, which is owned by MGM. Durability for me is a major plus. I researched into the manufacturing of Blu-Ray discs, and was surprised to see how they used to be made, before the redesign. A very smart move. Acceleration of Blu-Ray winning would be a move my Warner and Paramount to go Blu-Ray exclusive, as obviously stated. To do so would require careful considerations with studio decisions. The sales numbers are a major factor, so as soon as the numbers become so far ahead for Blu-Ray, (not 3 to 1, but 8 to 1), would be a certain decisive factor. Having excellent sales is good, even with overwhelming numbers, but it would take even higher numbers to turn Universal. I'm not one to bash them over going with HD-DVD exclusive. They see the cost advantage in manufacturing, and they feel the advantage for it, which is their decision to make. It is nice to have a slightly cheaper player to manufacture, but with capacity, limitations are apparent. Blu-Ray image quality is now exceeding HD-DVD in a few titles. With proper production, the additional space per layer can pay off big time. I'm in support of Warner and Paramount phasing out HD-DVD over the next year, and Universal being brought into the fold. For me, Blu-Ray is the way to go for the long haul. To go exclusive with Blu-Ray, and switch support to Blu-Ray will take time for Warner, Paramount, and Universal. It can't be done overnight. Good support from consumers to the studios, instead of boycotts will show to the studios that we want to see a quick end to the format war. I do believe that Blu-Ray will win, but I'd prefer it within one year, instead of two or three. It's the smart decision.

06-01-2007, 08:01 PM	#6
movies3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Location:KY Blu-ray collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:56	we would all love to see bluray win! oh and dont forget fox is only supporting bluray also. im hoping by the end of this summer we will see some big fox movies hit bluray

06-01-2007, 08:02 PM	#7
simcal Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:El Cajon Home Theater Gallery:35 Blu-ray collection:499	Hello and welcome! i wish you look on a well paying job to fund your BD future, I am thinking about taking a second job right now, but then when will i have time to watch anything?

06-01-2007, 08:15 PM	#8
ussrelativity Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	Well, from my being part of the Stargate fan community, I do know that MGM is producing two direct-to-DVD movies around Stargate SG-1. One is called Stargate: The Ark Of Truth, and the second is called Stargate: Continuum. While these are coming directly to DVD later this year, I am unsure if these will also be available on Blu-Ray as well. If we get lucky, it just may happen.

06-02-2007, 03:21 AM	#9
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	If only everybody assessed the tech specs and studio support like you did, welcome aboard! I love my 007 (got the VHS boxset that goes up to Goldeneye) but skipped on the DVD Ultimate set because I knew I could wait for the Blu-ray releases.

06-02-2007, 05:41 PM	#10
ussrelativity Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	Well said. I've been explaining Blu-Ray a lot to my friends, and they seem to understand the idea well. My friend is planning on getting a PS3 later this year, so I mentioned to him about Blu-Ray.

06-02-2007, 09:25 PM	#11
zombieking Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:CANADA Blu-ray collection:304 Blu-ray reviews: 18	Welcome and enjoy! This is a very informative site!!

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