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Old 04-16-2009, 07:30 PM   #1
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Who is trying to find accidents???

Once again this post is about a sub compact hitting a mid size car and the results, nothing else!

Not what would happen with a truck hitting a train or a full size car hitting a mid size one! Or weather larger cars are bad for the environment. It's about how safe you are in a sub compact if the horrible happens and a larger vehicle runs into you or vice verse!
ok since there's confusion in the other thread this thread is about trains hitting trucks.



these don't look so safe compared to a bigger vehicle


(train collisions with vehicles are rare as are head on collisions)
 
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Oopsy.



Whoops.



Uh-oh.


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Old 04-16-2009, 07:49 PM   #3
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looks like the engine is in the driver's lap!
 
Old 04-16-2009, 07:58 PM   #4
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Now lets see how the fit does against one which is the point that doesn't seem to be making it to your brain, of course if there would be anything even left to see. Of course we all hear about those car or truck vs. train accidents, happens everyday I'm sure! Whats funny is you couldn't even find a truck against a train picture to make your argument lol!

You say that the percentage of head on collisions is the same or less then as car vs train accidents, care to back that up with fact instead of nonsense?
 
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Now lets see how the fit does against one which is the point that doesn't seem to be making it to your brain, of course if there would be anything even left to see. Of course we all hear about those car or truck vs. train accidents, happens everyday I'm sure! Whats funny is you couldn't even find a truck against a train picture to make your argument lol!

You say that the percentage of head on collisions is the same or less then as car vs train accidents, care to back that up with fact instead of nonsense?
excuse me! this is a truck vs train thread not a fit vs truck thread.
 
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"So you think your truck is invinceable?"

Nope, but in the very unlikely event of a crash I am much better protected than a driver in a smaller and lighter vehicle. Even more importantly, my wife is better protected in my truck or her SUV than she would be in an economy car.

In addition to the additional safety factor, it has offroad and cargo capacities that are useful in my lifestyle.

Now was a 2nd thread really necessary to achieve your point?
 
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excuse me! this is a truck vs train thread not a fit vs truck thread.
So you want to act like a three year old, makes sense when your argument is about as solid as that fit in the accident vs. the accord!

Have a nice day!
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4K...3CABDF042A9514
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk
 
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"So you think your truck is invinceable?"

Nope, but in the very unlikely event of a crash I am much better protected than a driver in a smaller and lighter vehicle. Even more importantly, my wife is better protected in my truck or her SUV than she would be in an economy car.

In addition to the additional safety factor, it has offroad and cargo capacities that are useful in my lifestyle.

Now was a 2nd thread really necessary to achieve your point?

according to bigdog it was


but now you say that a truck is safer than a smaller car yet, i've posted proof from bigdog's source in the other thread

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to me it looks like the honda fit gets better ratings than a larger truck:

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1046

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1064

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1082

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=125

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=907


G = good A = acceptable M = marginal P = Poor

these tests are by the same people that did the article in the OP. so.... what's to believe??
i'm still waiting for proof that smaller car's are less safe than bigger trucks, until then, we can keep posting pictures of car wrecks. cause realistically, that's all the pictures in the other thread are right??

does it look like the drive cabin of any of these pics is any more intact than the pics in the other thread!?

the other thread is obviously an attack on drivers of smaller cars. so this thread is an attack agains drivers of larger cars. it's only fair right??

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So you want to act like a three year old, makes sense when your argument is about as solid as that fit in the accident vs. the accord!

Have a nice day!
sure. i've tried to act like an adult in your other thread yet you only want to listen to people that agree with your side of the argument. so really, you're the one acting like a 3 year old. i don't own a small car. i own a 09 mitsubishi lancer and a 2003 ford explorer. yet i'm grown up enough to know that a rare occurance does not make a car less safe. especially when smaller compact cars have far less rollover's than SUV's. that doesn't mean that everyone that drives an SUV is going to have a rollover.
 
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sure. i've tried to act like an adult in your other thread yet you only want to listen to people that agree with your side of the argument. so really, you're the one acting like a 3 year old. i don't own a small car. i own a 09 mitsubishi lancer and a 2003 ford explorer. yet i'm grown up enough to know that a rare occurance does not make a car less safe. especially when smaller compact cars have far less rollover's than SUV's. that doesn't mean that everyone that drives an SUV is going to have a rollover.
Spoken like a true scholar.

 
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thanks. here's another picture of a truck/suv:


 
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One set of pictures shows massive damage caused by small cars, the other set shows massive damage caused by trains and such. Either you can understand the differences in these circumstances and you are being intentionally obtuse, or you truly don't see the difference.

In either case I don't see any reason to continue this discussion. Drive the vehicle that fits you best and don't worry about the other guy's choices.
 
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One set of pictures shows massive damage caused by small cars, the other set shows massive damage caused by trains and such. Either you can understand the differences in these circumstances and you are being intentionally obtuse, or you truly don't see the difference.

In either case I don't see any reason to continue this discussion. Drive the vehicle that fits you best and don't worry about the other guy's choices.
!!! !!! Thank you!! finally you're understanding my point!
 
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ok guys! here's what we've all been waiting for..... an SUV with a head on collision. is the SUV completly intact!?? judge for yourself??


 
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well, I don't know if I'd call a Hyundai a truck...
 
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ok guys! here's what we've all been waiting for..... an SUV with a head on collision. is the SUV completly intact!?? judge for yourself??
I like your pictures, but I like mine with the Hummer the best, because it keeps reminding me of some quote I read in the other thread along the lines of "the Accord looks like it's where your legs would be".

In the Hummer picture, it looks like Mr. Bus is where the entire Hummer driver would be.... and that was just a rear-end collision. Imagine what would've happened if it hit the bus head-on.

For the people who don't get the point, the point is....

A smaller car might not be as "safe" as your truck when crashing into a car, but even in your truck there are still going to be bigger vehicles out there. The solution isn't to drive a bigger vehicle, it's to be a smarter driver.

If anything, if a grandma was suddenly barreling down the highway in the wrong direction, and headed right for me, I think I'd rather be in a smaller car, so she has a smaller target to hit. Or I could quickly swerve out of the way, and not risk tumbling over and possibly getting crushed by the weight of my car when it rolls onto the roof.

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One set of pictures shows massive damage caused by small cars, the other set shows massive damage caused by trains and such. Either you can understand the differences in these circumstances and you are being intentionally obtuse, or you truly don't see the difference.
The difference is that both sets of circumstances are extremely rare.

If it's truck vs train, or fit vs anything else in a collision they're both equally rare. Percentage speaking neither one is more safe than the other.

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The difference is that both sets of circumstances are extremely rare.

If it's truck vs train, or fit vs anything else in a collision they're both equally rare. Percentage speaking neither one is more safe than the other.

Logan
OMG someone understood the argument! Now the world will end.

 
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