How About some BASIC information? - Blu-ray Forum

WileyWyler · 05-08-2009, 06:34 AM

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...09&show=review

No mention on this site review of the conductor or orchestra. Sigh.

Found it on the Amazon site, but sad to see the performers aren't mentioned here, as they should be.

jw · 05-08-2009, 11:30 AM

I pmed the reviewer to get you a proper answer to this

4K2K · 05-09-2009, 03:53 AM

Why does it say "Video

Video codec: MPEG-2
Video resolution: 1080p
Aspect ratio: 1:78:1"

but then further down it says "Video
n/a

There is no video on this release. "

Sir Terrence · 05-09-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WileyWyler

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...09&show=review

No mention on this site review of the conductor or orchestra. Sigh.

Found it on the Amazon site, but sad to see the performers aren't mentioned here, as they should be.

Actually I did mention it in the original text of my review. When I copied it over to the site, it didn't show up. It is fixed, and I hope it meets your lofty standards.

Sir Terrence · 05-09-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4K2K

Why does it say "Video

Video codec: MPEG-2
Video resolution: 1080p
Aspect ratio: 1:78:1"

but then further down it says "Video
n/a

There is no video on this release. "

Unfortunately we have no option to not have a codec mentioned. You have to put something. This template was designed for movie reviews, not audio only music reviews. I will get with the site administrators to come up with a template that applies only to audio only Blu-ray titles.

Deciazulado · 05-09-2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WileyWyler

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...09&show=review

No mention on this site review of the conductor or orchestra. Sigh.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=3209

4K2K · 05-09-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Terrence

Unfortunately we have no option to not have a codec mentioned. You have to put something. This template was designed for movie reviews, not audio only music reviews. I will get with the site administrators to come up with a template that applies only to audio only Blu-ray titles.

While templates are being changed - another thing I noticed is that, whenever a new title is added where the details aren't known, it always says "Video Resolution: 1080p". Whether it is 1080p or not, eg. most concerts are 1080/60i but every time a new one is listed it is shown as 1080p. eg. if the resolution is unknown shouldn't it say "Video Resolution: Unknown" instead of "Video Resolution: 1080p"?

Also, by only listing whether a title is 1080p or 1080i, but never listing the field or frame rate, it makes it automatically sound like the latter is only half as good, when that's not necessarily the case (since it can have 2.5 times as many temporal samples, and 62 million new pixels per second compared to 49 million for 1080p24). So if templates are being changed please can, as well as showing the title's resolution, can it show the field rate too, eg. 1080/24p, 1080/50i or 1080/60i. Perhaps also the frame rate within 1080/60i too (eg. the Nine Inch Nails disc is claimed to be 1080p30 encoded in 1080/60i).

iceman · 05-10-2009, 01:34 PM

Template changes:

1. Audio only titles won't display bogus video information. (Field added for reviewers/admins to set "no video").
2. Video frame rate field added, will be displayed after video resolution, if set. (Field added for reviewers/admins).
3. Field for original aspect ratio was added some weeks ago and will also be displayed when set.

4K2K · 05-10-2009, 11:54 PM

Thanks.

Deciazulado · 05-12-2009, 06:43 AM

4K2K, for the time being 99% of movie Blu-rays are 1080p24 and the rest of the discs that are not 1080p24, are then 1080i60 instead. I know we'd like Blu-rays to be 1080p25 1080p30 and 1080i50 if the original frame rate was that, and there are a couple of 1080i50 releases in Europe, but mostly the majority of discs fall into the 1080p (24 fps) category, with a few in 1080i (60 interlaced fields encoded). There's no way to know if a disc is i (interlaced) unless the press release states it, or till the actual disc back cover shows up, or sometimes till a reviewer or a member puts it in his/her player, or has seen the video in question before and has knowledge of how it was made. For example, that 9" nails disc you allude to, is 30p transported inside a 60i frame rate, but there was no way to know that before the information was released (the player/display just tell you it's 1080i), (or unless someone with the technical savvy can analyze the fields/frames step by step or has an experienced eye to distinguish between 30 frames per second and 60 fields per second deinterlaced into 60p

)

One could assume that all concerts or made for TV programs/documentaries are presented in 60i and all movies are 24p when adding an entry to the database, but then Warner's BBC Planet Earth disc would have been entered as 1080i, when in reality the released disc in 1080p, and Warners BBC Galápagos came in 1080i (1080i60 transcoded from a 25/50i source), while Short Circuit, a movie which was shot at the normal 24 fps, came on a 1080i60 disc.

When we do know a release differs from 1080p24 the information is added to the database. Likewise if a 1080i disc turns out to be 50i, the informatiom is added when information is available.

05-08-2009, 06:34 AM	#1
WileyWyler Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 33	How About some BASIC information? https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...09&show=review No mention on this site review of the conductor or orchestra. Sigh. Found it on the Amazon site, but sad to see the performers aren't mentioned here, as they should be.

05-09-2009, 03:53 AM	#3
4K2K Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Region B	Why does it say "Video Video codec: MPEG-2 Video resolution: 1080p Aspect ratio: 1:78:1" but then further down it says "Video n/a There is no video on this release. " Last edited by 4K2K; 05-09-2009 at 03:57 AM.

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05-08-2009, 11:30 AM	#2
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	I pmed the reviewer to get you a proper answer to this

05-10-2009, 01:34 PM	#8
iceman Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Home Theater Gallery:13 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:121 DVD collection:26 MA collection:1 Digital collection:6 iTunes collection:10 iTunes music:2 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:1	Template changes: 1. Audio only titles won't display bogus video information. (Field added for reviewers/admins to set "no video"). 2. Video frame rate field added, will be displayed after video resolution, if set. (Field added for reviewers/admins). 3. Field for original aspect ratio was added some weeks ago and will also be displayed when set.

05-10-2009, 11:54 PM	#9
4K2K Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Region B	Thanks.

05-12-2009, 06:43 AM	#10
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1159 Blu-ray collection:7044 DVD collection:4041	4K2K, for the time being 99% of movie Blu-rays are 1080p24 and the rest of the discs that are not 1080p24, are then 1080i60 instead. I know we'd like Blu-rays to be 1080p25 1080p30 and 1080i50 if the original frame rate was that, and there are a couple of 1080i50 releases in Europe, but mostly the majority of discs fall into the 1080p (24 fps) category, with a few in 1080i (60 interlaced fields encoded). There's no way to know if a disc is i (interlaced) unless the press release states it, or till the actual disc back cover shows up, or sometimes till a reviewer or a member puts it in his/her player, or has seen the video in question before and has knowledge of how it was made. For example, that 9" nails disc you allude to, is 30p transported inside a 60i frame rate, but there was no way to know that before the information was released (the player/display just tell you it's 1080i), (or unless someone with the technical savvy can analyze the fields/frames step by step or has an experienced eye to distinguish between 30 frames per second and 60 fields per second deinterlaced into 60p ) One could assume that all concerts or made for TV programs/documentaries are presented in 60i and all movies are 24p when adding an entry to the database, but then Warner's BBC Planet Earth disc would have been entered as 1080i, when in reality the released disc in 1080p, and Warners BBC Galápagos came in 1080i (1080i60 transcoded from a 25/50i source), while Short Circuit, a movie which was shot at the normal 24 fps, came on a 1080i60 disc. When we do know a release differs from 1080p24 the information is added to the database. Likewise if a 1080i disc turns out to be 50i, the informatiom is added when information is available.

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