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Old 08-17-2016, 04:55 PM   #361
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One distributor?
It was an hypothetical example. Every major studio released pan & scan DVDs, as well, but later, they (more or less) stopped. The fact remains that the format is capable of producing the desired results; it's just a matter of convincing the distributors to use the format correctly.
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Old 08-17-2016, 05:06 PM   #362
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It was an hypothetical example. Every major studio released pan & scan DVDs, as well, but later, they (more or less) stopped. The fact remains that the format is capable of producing the desired results; it's just a matter of convincing the distributors to use the format correctly.
That's not gonna happen unfortunately. I believe that if HDR doesn't take off they will let the format die. HDR is the main selling point for them and they have contracts with Technicolor and other companies to regrade movies for HDR
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You can easily tell that the UHD disk looks better by just looking at the suit he's wearing. It's clearer on the UHD disc.
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:26 PM   #364
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You can easily tell that the UHD disk looks better by just looking at the suit he's wearing. It's clearer on the UHD disc.
It's better, but a lot of people are disappointed because it's not as good as they were expecting when compared to another 2K upscale: Lone Survivor.
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:40 PM   #365
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It's better, but a lot of people are disappointed because it's not as good as they were expecting when compared to another 2K upscale: Lone Survivor.

Thats 1 scene. I can find over an hours worth of scenes that are softer. I'd say it's 80%+ that's softer. Cherry picking 1 scene doesn't represent the entire movie.
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:43 PM   #366
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Thats 1 scene. I can find over an hours worth of scenes that are softer. I'd say it's 80%+ that's softer. Cherry picking 1 scene doesn't represent the entire movie.
I haven't A/B compared myself, I've done comparison pictures before, but the Samsung K8500 is fairly unwieldy. Perhaps I'll have to try when I can.
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:22 AM   #367
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Thats 1 scene. I can find over an hours worth of scenes that are softer. I'd say it's 80%+ that's softer. Cherry picking 1 scene doesn't represent the entire movie.
UHD 4K Converter to 1080p.

I don't noticed soft pictures this movie. I watch stop 1 hrs. the movie.
Audio Quailty is ....I speakless just word "WOW!.
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Old 08-19-2016, 02:55 AM   #368
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The official review is up. It received a 4.5. This is more in line with what I see with the Vudu version.
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:37 AM   #369
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Yea I don't get all the complaints. Pretty good looking UHD Disc. If people think this doesn't look good I wonder what they think about some of those Lionsgate releases.
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:18 AM   #370
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You can easily tell that the UHD disk looks better by just looking at the suit he's wearing. It's clearer on the UHD disc.

Not so sure about the suit, but--in this particular shot--the blu-ray coloration looks a little more primary, basic; the facial detail seems a bit splotchy, as if a color bandwidth roll-off--or something--clipped some of the extended detail available for display that the UHD brings out. But the blu looks plenty respectable, if not superior in other departments in different examples.

Looking forward to more comparisons, if anyone has a jones to post 'em.
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:26 AM   #371
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The UHD version looks washed out. The black bars look more gray on the UHD version as if your brightness is set too high.
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:34 AM   #372
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The UHD version looks washed out. The black bars look more gray on the UHD version as if your brightness is set too high.
Sunlight to HDTV screen.
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:36 AM   #373
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The UHD version looks washed out. The black bars look more gray on the UHD version as if your brightness is set too high.
now that i take a closer look, the colors are whats making the biggest difference. I can actually now see the softer edges in toms suit if you look near the shoulders. its plain as day once you know what to look for.

it also needs to be pointed out that with those pictures, the 4k is being downconverted to 1080P, (he doesnt have a 4k tv yet).
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:47 AM   #374
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I went back and decided to take a few more pix and check this out again.

BD on top, UHD bottom. and no, my camera is not out of focus. I zoomed in and never changed my zoom # the entire time. I find wide/long shots to be the worst, up close shots are much closer to each other.




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Old 08-19-2016, 07:03 AM   #375
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I've had a look at this by flicking between the 2 discs running simultaneously and I must agree with Ray. The some wide shots do appear softer, but some do not. Same goes for the close up shots. But overall with the WRG and HDR applied, there is a more colourful and dynamic picture. Some shots are simply stunning.

I personally prefer the UHD disc overall, just.
A solid 4.5/5 for me but if the overall detail level was improved it would be a solid 5/5.

It's funny how the reviewer on this site didn't comment on the softer image though?


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I've had a look at this by flicking between the 2 discs running simultaneously and I must agree with Ray. The some wide shots do appear softer, but some do not. Same goes for the close up shots. But overall with the WRG and HDR applied, there is a more colourful and dynamic picture. Some shots are simply stunning.

I personally prefer the UHD disc overall, just.
A solid 4.5/5 for me but if the overall detail level was improved it would be a solid 5/5.

It's funny how the reviewer on this site didn't comment on the softer image though?


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Ray0414 use on Samsung UHD player is not great picture quality. I don't know why Oblivion UHD looks soft picture.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:23 AM   #377
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I've been running my new copy of the 1080p Oblivion and stopped at this mark to look things over carefully on my calibrated set; I see none of the traits I previously mentioned about the BD shot. No blue tint, nothing splotchy, no dropouts nor loss of subtle gradient of shading on the facial features. In this sense, it looks a lot like the UHD sample...and detail is aces. Not sure what happened with your example, but then we had to know that everything is a factor here: Your camera's image sensor, exposure level, tv adjustments in different display modes for each respective format, etc.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:24 AM   #378
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Ray0414 use on Samsung UHD player is not great picture quality. I don't know why Oblivion UHD looks soft picture.


Well it appears that I'm seeing the same thing though. I'm using the Panasonic player and their OLED for UHD. For the 2K disc I'm using my Marantz 7007 and the same screen.


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Old 08-19-2016, 07:32 AM   #379
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I went back and decided to take a few more pix and check this out again.

BD on top, UHD bottom. and no, my camera is not out of focus. I zoomed in and never changed my zoom # the entire time. I find wide/long shots to be the worst, up close shots are much closer to each other.


Appreciate the pics; very interesting.

Atmos and HDR must really bring it for some to opt for the UHD over the standard blu. Do you have a format preference at this point?

This issue would drive me nuts, not just in noticing the softness...but it's the principle of the thing; the idea of paying for a performance hit. Pretty galling.

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