Oblivion 4K UHD (2013) - Page 50 - Blu-ray Forum

brian9229 · 05-01-2018, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

This UHD is like ice cream with whipped cream topping for my eyes!

Justice League rocked!

Thats funny, watching the UHD is like having ice cream in my eyes.

RockyIII · 05-01-2018, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brian9229

Thats funny, watching the UHD is like having ice cream in my eyes.

Oh no you didn't

kristoffer · 05-01-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Some of these UHD caps are downright blurry. It does appear that there might be some edge enhancement on the Blu-ray and I do like the warmer color palette of the 4K disc which I own, but the 4k version should always in every circumstance have a greater level of detail than the Blu-ray. This disc needs a severe remaster period and should be replaced for free to owners of the 4K disc.

Agreed, it looks out of focus in some shots. Looks like a lot of filtering was used.

PeterTHX · 05-01-2018, 08:48 PM

Been looking at the disc and the screens. Disc doesn't look quite as bad when it's in motion. Still not good though.

HOWEVER...

I think Universal did a Lionsgate - a transfer & HDR grade of a film-out, rather than using the DI original.

Alfred E. Neumann · 05-01-2018, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Been looking at the disc and the screens. Disc doesn't look quite as bad when it's in motion. Still not good though.

HOWEVER...

I think Universal did a Lionsgate - a transfer & HDR grade of a film-out, rather than using the DI original.

It looks like they used the Blu-ray, upscaled it, added bigger black bars to get rid of the blurry edges, filtered everything and DNR'd the grain structure and altered the contrast and colors a bit.

PeterTHX · 05-02-2018, 01:06 AM

No, it's a completely different transfer.

ROSS.T.G. · 05-02-2018, 01:14 AM

Different look entirely. Colour temperature is drastically warmer compared to the colder BD. For all it’s problems the HDR grading is beautiful.

shield80 · 05-02-2018, 11:54 AM

I take the BD over the 4K.looks to blurry in 4K

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...1&l=0&i=3&go=1

RockyIII · 05-02-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shield80

I take the BD over the 4K.looks to blurry in 4K

http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...1&l=0&i=3&go=1

I guess you don't like ice cream?

gates70 · 05-02-2018, 02:14 PM

In motion it doesn't look as bad as the caps at all. The caps police need to just stop with that crap. It's far from telling the whole story. I think everyone agrees that it's not as sharp as the BD but it's also not as bad as what some are making it out to be either.

Geoff D · 05-02-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Been looking at the disc and the screens. Disc doesn't look quite as bad when it's in motion. Still not good though.

HOWEVER...

I think Universal did a Lionsgate - a transfer & HDR grade of a film-out, rather than using the DI original.

Nope. It really is just the existing DI given a heck of a beating with a low pass filter and they've cinched in the letterbox borders slightly to cover the ringing, as well as having a HDR pass of course.

reanimator · 05-02-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gates70

The caps police need to just stop with that crap. It's far from telling the whole story.

In years past, comparing DVD caps to BD caps made some level of sense -- because the only visual difference between DVD and BD was resolution. That's not the case in comparing BD to UHD -- resolution is only one part of the PQ equation. What we're getting now are "sharpness" comparisons, nothing more. The OBLIVION BD looks sharper than the UHD, but that doesn't mean it looks better.

Geoff D · 05-03-2018, 05:04 PM

The UHD is still smudged to balls though, caps or no caps. The capsaholic comparison just confirms what people were saying all along...

Vangeli · 05-03-2018, 05:19 PM

Well we're more than halfway to an anniversary release, where they could issue a better UHD disc. Only a few more years.

imsounoriginal · 05-03-2018, 05:20 PM

Yeah I don't see any way the UHD could be better than the BD, the cap of Freeman/Cruise/Jamie Lannister pretty much confirms it. Even if the UHD was as sharp as the BD (let alone sharper), the warmer color scheme really looks dreadful. Skin tones are maybe the one all-around beneficiary.

gates70 · 05-03-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Yeah I don't see any way the UHD could be better than the BD, the cap of Freeman/Cruise/Jamie Lannister pretty much confirms it. Even if the UHD was as sharp as the BD (let alone sharper), the warmer color scheme really looks dreadful. Skin tones are maybe the one all-around beneficiary.

So you are just going by caps and haven't seen it ? No it doesn't confirm it. The only place the BD has an advantage is that it's sharper. Colors, HDR, and ATMOS make it a better release for me. I'll never watch the BD again. This isn't Predator level of wax job, far from it. But opinions and all....

Geoff D · 05-03-2018, 05:52 PM

Personally I love the grading of the HDR version (the caps are in converted SDR, remember) but I hate the softness, which isn't DNR but simply a very strong low pass filter, hence it not looking waxy (reminds me of the scene in Gladiator's UHD between Maximum and Proximo). I love the sharpness of the BD version but I'd rather have the HDR colour scheme. Combine the two and this would've been an extraordinary looking disc, one of the best the format has to offer despite a mere 2K finish, but as it is it's fundamentally flawed.

imsounoriginal · 05-03-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gates70

So you are just going by caps and haven't seen it ? No it doesn't confirm it. The only place the BD has an advantage is that it's sharper. Colors, HDR, and ATMOS make it a better release for me. I'll never watch the BD again. This isn't Predator level of wax job, far from it. But opinions and all....

To be fair some of the sharpness on the BD looks artificial (especially the cap of TC and the trees outside his cabin), but on the whole I can't see preferring the softer look of the UHD, even if/when I see it in-motion.

gates70 · 05-03-2018, 05:58 PM

Rocky III should be chiming in any minute about how it's the bestest UHD out there...in 3....2....1....

shield80 · 05-03-2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gates70

Rocky III should be chiming in any minute about how it's the bestest UHD out there...in 3....2....1....

Wait for it

05-01-2018, 08:48 PM	#984
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	Been looking at the disc and the screens. Disc doesn't look quite as bad when it's in motion. Still not good though. HOWEVER... I think Universal did a Lionsgate - a transfer & HDR grade of a film-out, rather than using the DI original.

05-02-2018, 01:06 AM	#986
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	No, it's a completely different transfer.

05-02-2018, 01:14 AM	#987
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	Different look entirely. Colour temperature is drastically warmer compared to the colder BD. For all it’s problems the HDR grading is beautiful.

05-02-2018, 11:54 AM	#988
shield80 Special Member Member since:Oct 2010 4K collection:104 Blu-ray collection:994 DVD collection:425 Blu-ray reviews:3	I take the BD over the 4K.looks to blurry in 4K http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=...1&l=0&i=3&go=1

05-02-2018, 02:14 PM	#990
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:289 4K collection:1527 Blu-ray collection:5355 Blu-ray reviews:1	In motion it doesn't look as bad as the caps at all. The caps police need to just stop with that crap. It's far from telling the whole story. I think everyone agrees that it's not as sharp as the BD but it's also not as bad as what some are making it out to be either.

05-03-2018, 05:04 PM	#993
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	The UHD is still smudged to balls though, caps or no caps. The capsaholic comparison just confirms what people were saying all along...

05-03-2018, 05:19 PM	#994
Vangeli Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2017 Location:Maine, US Trading Score:3	Well we're more than halfway to an anniversary release, where they could issue a better UHD disc. Only a few more years.

05-03-2018, 05:20 PM	#995
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:321 Blu-ray collection:949 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Yeah I don't see any way the UHD could be better than the BD, the cap of Freeman/Cruise/Jamie Lannister pretty much confirms it. Even if the UHD was as sharp as the BD (let alone sharper), the warmer color scheme really looks dreadful. Skin tones are maybe the one all-around beneficiary.

05-03-2018, 05:52 PM	#997
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Personally I love the grading of the HDR version (the caps are in converted SDR, remember) but I hate the softness, which isn't DNR but simply a very strong low pass filter, hence it not looking waxy (reminds me of the scene in Gladiator's UHD between Maximum and Proximo). I love the sharpness of the BD version but I'd rather have the HDR colour scheme. Combine the two and this would've been an extraordinary looking disc, one of the best the format has to offer despite a mere 2K finish, but as it is it's fundamentally flawed.

05-03-2018, 05:58 PM	#999
gates70 Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:289 4K collection:1527 Blu-ray collection:5355 Blu-ray reviews:1	Rocky III should be chiming in any minute about how it's the bestest UHD out there...in 3....2....1....

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