Large Format/"Premium" Theaters (IMAX 15/70, Digital IMAX, XD, ETX, RPX, etc.)

[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by antovolk

JL is potentially a bigger deal because if they do it it would be the first IMAX non doc feature presented entirely in 1.43:1.

I doubt Warner is going to step on Nolan's toes like that. He keeps moving closer and closer to doing a full 1570 film.

Personally I just wish the IMAX Corp would quit trying to shove 3D down our throats. At least half of the showtimes should be in 2D for every IMAX release.

[NegaScott128]

Originally Posted by Blu-Malibu2009

I doubt Warner is going to step on Nolan's toes like that. He keeps moving closer and closer to doing a full 1570 film.

I don't think it would be stepping on Nolan's toes. JL is shot on 35mm, with no footage shot on either a 70mm or digital IMAX camera (which is extra weird since BvS had 15/70 IMAX footage but oh well). So if and when Nolan makes a feature entirely in 15/70 IMAX, it would still be a big deal because of the larger format.

Really, if anything's gonna step on Nolan's toes, it's Infinity War. It'll be shot entirely on digital IMAX cameras, so it'll probably get all the press for being the "first feature entirely in IMAX" even though it's not "real" IMAX.

[Blu-Malibu2009]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's fair enough, they replaced the screen a few years back and that won't have come cheap so I guess they blew their wad on that. But I also read something with an IMAX rep re: Laser that any existing IMAXes with screens under 80ft wouldn't be at the top of the list for a Laser install anyway, so I think there's a bit of inertia on both sides.

On a slightly different note I'm so pleased the BFI nabbed a 15/70 print of Rogue One after the debacle of missing out on a 15/70 print of Force Awakens. It's not that Rogue had any embiggened IMAX scenes or anything but it's the principle of the thing.

BFI is 84 feet wide. I don't think the IMAX person meant 80 feet tall. Those pretty much don't exist in the world. 99% of the true IMAX screens are less than 75 feet tall. Most of them are similar to BFI or smaller. BFI is 65 feet tall.

http://www.lfexaminer.com/searchResu...London+BFI+Ode

[Visionist]

I had a piece of the old BFI screen, but when I moved abroad for a couple years and returned I couldn't easily find it as everything had been moved. Hopefully it's still around somewhere. Came with a letter signed by the management.

I definitely want Nolan to go full 15/70 for a grand finale, although it'd reasonably be a 90-100 minute film. I'd love a car chase thriller; Nolan directed the tumbler chase in Begins well, with kinetic editing. Unfortunately his IMAX action shots are a lot more plodding, due to the heavy camera. He could fix this focusing on an all IMAX shoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5Ur3H9svg

Shove a 15/70 camera in the back of a wagon like this and let your stunt drivers loose on a closed highway.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Wonder Woman IMAX 3D - presented fixed 2.40, no expanded image (why did they put out that 1.9:1 TV spot with expanded image then??). And 3D conversion is meh, very flat overall, felt 2D at times but not really watchable with glasses off.

I can confirm this as well.. WTF??!?!?! At the end credits it said "ENHANCED FOR IMAX". So I am assuming that seeing this at Udvar Hazy Imax is pointless now as there is no full frame scenes. I was waiting as for the Themyscira to expand to full frame...and got NOTHING. Damn...such a shame. Save your money and go 2d, regular screen.

Another showing of that Dunkirk scene....they cranked the audio even louder than before.............are they seriously trying to make us deaf?

Yep I can tell that the camera was out of focus in the close up of the pilots....for an imax scene that really must be an ouch to have it blurry :\

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

I can confirm this as well.. WTF??!?!?! At the end credits it said "ENHANCED FOR IMAX". So I am assuming that seeing this at Udvar Hazy Imax is pointless now as there is no full frame scenes. I was waiting as for the Themyscira to expand to full frame...and got NOTHING. Damn...such a shame. Save your money and go 2d, regular screen.

Another showing of that Dunkirk scene....they cranked the audio even louder than before.............are they seriously trying to make us deaf?

Yep I can tell that the camera was out of focus in the close up of the pilots....for an imax scene that really must be an ouch to have it blurry :\

I was fully expecting that, both because of our earlier screening report, and because there was no advertising of IMAX ratio (which Dr Strange, Beauty and the Beast, Guardians, and Pirates all got). The tag added for IMAX ratio is "specially formatted for IMAX" (I got a big one at the end of Pirates), and this one isn't wrong, the film is "enhanced" for IMAX the way all IMAX releases are (custom DMR on the visuals, and a custom IMAX sound mix).

I still think it was worthwhile seeing in IMAX, and was great to see a movie shot on film in IMAX laser (as that's pretty rare, I think this might be the first one done at Lincoln Square, and as I suspect it would the image quality and filmic look held up that way). Obviously a 1.9 version would be even better and fill more of one's field of vision, but scope on a screen over 95 feet wide still feels pretty big (I was sitting in the 4th row).

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

I was fully expecting that, both because of our earlier screening report, and because there was no advertising of IMAX ratio (which Dr Strange, Beauty and the Beast, Guardians, and Pirates all got). The tag added for IMAX ratio is "specially formatted for IMAX" (I got a big one at the end of Pirates), and this one isn't wrong, the film is "enhanced" for IMAX the way all IMAX releases are (custom DMR on the visuals, and a custom IMAX sound mix).

I still think it was worthwhile seeing in IMAX, and was great to see a movie shot on film in IMAX laser (as that's pretty rare, I think this might be the first one done at Lincoln Square, and as I suspect it would the image quality and filmic look held up that way). Obviously a 1.9 version would be even better and fill more of one's field of vision, but scope on a screen over 95 feet wide still feels pretty big (I was sitting in the 4th row).

There were so many scenes that could have taken advantage of IMAX filming including the Intro, Themyscira exterior shots, No Man's Land Scene and so on. Now I am really starting to doubt going to see movies in IMAX. Transformers: TLK we know is IMAX with various AR (based on the trailers) so I will see it at the Regal Digital Imax screen (Only because I have a 10 dollars off credit towards and IMAX movie that expires at the end of this month) and depends on the changing AR, if those full frame shots are like amazing (like the entire intro scene with the knights fighting is in full frame Imax), then yes I will go back to Udvar and see it again in real IMAX.

Really don't like how my theater has cranked the Dunkirk preview audio to beyond max. That final scene where it sounds like a plane is about to crash into the troops was so loud beyond any movie I have heard before. I am curious about the movie but going to wait for the reviews before seeing it at Udvar.

[Dubstar]

Well my friend and I are already committed to seeing this at Udvar next week - eh, it's IMAX, it's laser, it's 3D, it's 12 channel sound, it's $12 --- I ain't complaining

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Blu-Malibu2009

BFI is 84 feet wide. I don't think the IMAX person meant 80 feet tall. Those pretty much don't exist in the world. 99% of the true IMAX screens are less than 75 feet tall. Most of them are similar to BFI or smaller. BFI is 65 feet tall.

http://www.lfexaminer.com/searchResu...London+BFI+Ode

They're still laser-less though, that's all I really care about. Such a waste on such an epic screen, not that I don't adore true 15/70 projection but I'd LOVE to see what laser looks like up in there. And no, I don't wanna trek all the way into London just to go to the Leicester Sq IMAX mit laser. It's the BFI or bust!

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Yep I can tell that the camera was out of focus in the close up of the pilots....for an imax scene that really must be an ouch to have it blurry :\

If you look closely it actually bounces in and out of focus due to the vibration....to which I can only say you try retrofitting a 70lb camera & load to the fuselage of a vintage fighter that's being powered by an engine thundering out a thousand horses, see how stable you can get it.

[Spike M.]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They're still laser-less though, that's all I really care about. Such a waste on such an epic screen, not that I don't adore true 15/70 projection but I'd LOVE to see what laser looks like up in there. And no, I don't wanna trek all the way into London just to go to the Leicester Sq IMAX mit laser. It's the BFI or bust!

I've never been to London but isn't Leicester like 20 minutes from BFI?

And here I am planning a 5-hour drive to see Dunkirk in Laser.

[Geoff D]

Yes, but it's getting to the BFI in the first place. I don't live in London no more, it takes a 7-hour round trip to get there from here! But for 15/70 I always make the pilgrimage.

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes, but it's getting to the BFI in the first place. I don't live in London no more, it takes a 7-hour round trip to get there from here! But for 15/70 I always make the pilgrimage.

I know my brother and some people will travel great distances for a movie sometimes, but I find it hard to go much further than an hour each way just to see a single movie (several years back I did go from New York to Toronto with the Film Festival for half a week, but I saw six films there and visited family in the area).

Probably the furthest I've gone just for a movie is with Superman Returns in 15/70, and was around 100 minutes each way.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

Well my friend and I are already committed to seeing this at Udvar next week - eh, it's IMAX, it's laser, it's 3D, it's 12 channel sound, it's $12 --- I ain't complaining

I'd be pretty pissed if at Udvar is goes full frame.
$12??? I thought it was $15? I wonder why they haven't gone on the over charge band wagon considering it's IMAX and 3d.....both at Regal for D-IMAX is over 20!

Does make you wonder though..... if it's projected in Letterbox, how many feet of the screen is actually lost to empty black space?

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If you look closely it actually bounces in and out of focus due to the vibration....to which I can only say you try retrofitting a 70lb camera & load to the fuselage of a vintage fighter that's being powered by an engine thundering out a thousand horses, see how stable you can get it.

Yes, I did notice that the second time around of viewing this scene. Why would you risk an expensive camera like that for a *close up* of a pilot? The same effect could have easily been done similar to what they did for Oblivion and Rogue One where they had a cockpit that was infront of a really high res projection screen. I honestly thought it was a waste considering the sky shots were like meh....I think he can still reshoot those scenes real quick without risking the camera rig hundreds of feet up.

[Spike M.]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Yes, I did notice that the second time around of viewing this scene. Why would you risk an expensive camera like that for a *close up* of a pilot? The same effect could have easily been done similar to what they did for Oblivion and Rogue One where they had a cockpit that was infront of a really high res projection screen. I honestly thought it was a waste considering the sky shots were like meh....I think he can still reshoot those scenes real quick without risking the camera rig hundreds of feet up.

Because he's Christopher Nolan and he can spend and do whatever he wants.

[Geoff D]

Exactly. He's Chris Nolan, b*tch!

[sunnya23]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Yes, I did notice that the second time around of viewing this scene. Why would you risk an expensive camera like that for a *close up* of a pilot? The same effect could have easily been done similar to what they did for Oblivion and Rogue One where they had a cockpit that was infront of a really high res projection screen. I honestly thought it was a waste considering the sky shots were like meh....I think he can still reshoot those scenes real quick without risking the camera rig hundreds of feet up.

I think his intention in filming that shot within the cockpit is to convey the claustrophobic environment and add a heightened sense of reality to the dogfight. You really thought the sky shots were "meh?" The whole prologue was so intense with the ticking clock and the sky shots had me holding my breath as they took the entirety of the True IMAX screen I saw it on. I felt as though I was in the air as the dogfight ensued. And the sound of the bomber near the end as it crescendos was ear deafening. I had to catch my breath after that prologue. To my understanding the entire film is going to hold the intensity of that prologue. Essentially like a "Mad Max" war film. Also the entirety of the film is shot in 65mm and 70mm large format photography. So I can't wait for this movie to release. It will be more of an EXPERIENCE than sitting and passively watching a movie.

[Geoff D]

Aye, the prologue got my pulse racing, it was SO intense. If the movie can maintain that kind of tension and intensity throughout then it's going to be an incredible experience.

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Yes, I did notice that the second time around of viewing this scene. Why would you risk an expensive camera like that for a *close up* of a pilot? The same effect could have easily been done similar to what they did for Oblivion and Rogue One where they had a cockpit that was infront of a really high res projection screen. I honestly thought it was a waste considering the sky shots were like meh....I think he can still reshoot those scenes real quick without risking the camera rig hundreds of feet up.

Because it's more awesome when it's actually shot in-camera with minimal VFX instead of mostly green screen.

Also, he's Christopher f*cking Nolan.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

I'd be pretty pissed if at Udvar is goes full frame.
$12??? I thought it was $15? I wonder why they haven't gone on the over charge band wagon considering it's IMAX and 3d.....both at Regal for D-IMAX is over 20!

Does make you wonder though..... if it's projected in Letterbox, how many feet of the screen is actually lost to empty black space?

oh I'm a Smithsonian member - my $15 tix drops down to $12.

There have been dozens of scope 2.40 movies that have been projected on the 1.43 screen for the last umpteen years - it isn't new news - this harkens back to the day when TV's where 4:3 and the common complaint was that a letterbox movies drove people crazy ('Why do I want a movie with black borders above and below the screen ??'). Thankfully the trend lately has been to open movies up to 1.90 or more to take up more of the 1.43 IMAX screens, to take up maximum amount of screen and eliminate black borders.