Large Format/"Premium" Theaters (IMAX 15/70, Digital IMAX, XD, ETX, RPX, etc.)

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

DUDE!!!! After months of promoting how this movie was filmed in IMAX and the whole IMAX vs standard viewing...and seeing it in both Regal LieMAX which actually fit the entire screen and not letterboxed....saw it today at Udvar in Chantilly, VA........Guess what? LETTERBOXED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FILM!!!! What the **** Udvar!!!?!?!?!?!?!?! Did the projectionist **** up??!??!

Is that a 1.43 screen? I saw Infinity War on a 1.43 screen (Lincoln Square), and yes there was some letterboxing throughout since the movie is 1.9.

[ITDEFX101]

Well according to
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...819467786&z=13

it's a 1.37:1 aspect ratio...

My first viewing of the movie was at Manassas Regal IMAX and according to that site
it is a 1.72:1 aspect ratio...

The image filled the entire screen during the entire movie.

err what's going on here?

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Well according to
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...819467786&z=13

it's a 1.37:1 aspect ratio...

My first viewing of the movie was at Manassas Regal IMAX and according to that site
it is a 1.72:1 aspect ratio...

The image filled the entire screen during the entire movie.

err what's going on here?

Well, with that 1.37 aspect ratio, I would expect some letterboxing. I'm not sure about a 1.72 screen (I'm assuming that's a digital IMAX, I know they make them wider than 1.9, but I wasn't sure about taller), but they may be deciding to use some cropping to fill the screen rather than try and perfectly present a 1.9 aspect ratio.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

Well, with that 1.37 aspect ratio, I would expect some letterboxing. I'm not sure about a 1.72 screen (I'm assuming that's a digital IMAX, I know they make them wider than 1.9, but I wasn't sure about taller), but they may be deciding to use some cropping to fill the screen rather than try and perfectly present a 1.9 aspect ratio.

So what was Avengers suppose to be projected as?

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

So what was Avengers suppose to be projected as?

It's 1.9 (right from the video description)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azx4iYYXUto

"Marvel and IMAX will make cinematic history with AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR, which marks the first Hollywood film entirely shot using IMAX cameras. Exclusively in IMAX® theatres, the film will be presented in its entirety in an expanded 1.9:1 aspect ratio – showing audiences up to 26% more of the image than standard theatres – providing IMAX fans with even greater scope and immersion."

The reason they always say "up to 26% more" is accounting for IMAX theaters with an aspect ratio wider than 1.9

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

It's 1.9 (right from the video description)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=azx4iYYXUto

"Marvel and IMAX will make cinematic history with AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR, which marks the first Hollywood film entirely shot using IMAX cameras. Exclusively in IMAX® theatres, the film will be presented in its entirety in an expanded 1.9:1 aspect ratio – showing audiences up to 26% more of the image than standard theatres – providing IMAX fans with even greater scope and immersion."

The reason they always say "up to 26% more" is accounting for IMAX theaters with an aspect ratio wider than 1.9

Hmmm then what was Dunkirk at? Now that movie filled the entire screen at Udvar...with the exception of a few sequences.

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Hmmm then what was Dunkirk at? Now that movie filled the entire screen at Udvar...with the exception of a few sequences.

Dunkirk is indeed 1.43, (and filled the IMAX laser screen completely for most of the movie) and the traditional variations are either 1.43 or 1.9. But I think there are some other ones (Star Trek Into Darkness uses 1.66 I believe for its IMAX footage).

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Agreed. Whatever special somethin' somethin' IMAX had, it quickly sold its soul to Hollywood. Alas, plenty of people still fall for the hype which is why there's so much "IMAX" stuff around now, one will continue to beget the other until 15/70 is but a distant memory.

As for them bigging up the audio, perhaps they should rename it to AMAX instead?

Sold to Hollywood indeed!

[GLaDOS]

This IMAX aspect ratio shenanigans is getting out of hands.

Went to Lockheed in DC and IW was partially letterboxed but it filled up most of the screen (that screen is 1.64:1 so the letterboxing isn't as egregious like in Udvar). Still a delight to watch.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by GLaDOS

This IMAX aspect ratio shenanigans is getting out of hands.

Went to Lockheed in DC and IW was partially letterboxed but it filled up most of the screen (that screen is 1.64:1 so the letterboxing isn't as egregious like in Udvar). Still a delight to watch.

Soooooooooooo is this the fill the screen IMAX movie that the company and studio has been talking about for months?!? Shit even Micheal Bay did a better job at giving us a full frame IMAX presentation for TLK...... What the hell is going on here!?!?!?!

[Geoff D]

I thought that the tallest you'd get out of the IMAX version of TLK was 1.90? That too was shot on the IMAX'd Alexa 65 just like IW. Maybe the ADHD effect of the alternating ratios made the taller 1.90 scenes more impactful than a straight 1.90 all the way through.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I thought that the tallest you'd get out of the IMAX version of TLK was 1.90? That too was shot on the IMAX'd Alexa 65 just like IW. Maybe the ADHD effect of the alternating ratios made the taller 1.90 scenes more impactful than a straight 1.90 all the way through.

So like what happened?!??!?! What did this movie shoot in compared to that of Dunkirk and TF:TLK that would cause those two movies to project full frame and IW to project in letterbox mode...something ain't right..... went to Udvar JUST to see the full frame of the entire movie...not letterboxed like Pacific Rim and I am glad I skipped TLJ at Udvar after seeing it letterboxed at the last minute

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Looks like this is the final weekend for Avengers in IMAX as Udvar is gonna show Deadpool 2 in IMAX..whoa...wait I thought they had a policy of not allowing R rated films at their screen?

oh that changed with 'Alien: Covenant' and a couple of one off showings of 'Alien', 'Aliens' over at Lockheed intown.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

oh that changed with 'Alien: Covenant' and a couple of one off showings of 'Alien', 'Aliens' over at Lockheed intown.

Oh now I remembered with A:C....

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by ITDEFX101

Soooooooooooo is this the fill the screen IMAX movie that the company and studio has been talking about for months?!? Shit even Micheal Bay did a better job at giving us a full frame IMAX presentation for TLK...... What the hell is going on here!?!?!?!

You cannot have a 1.43:1 (or similar) projection of a movie shot in 1.90:1, unless you zoom and cut off the sides. In which case, the 2.39:1 scenes would also appear zoomed and cropped horizontally.
The other way is if Bay himself did the pan & scan 1.43:1 for certain IMAX screens, which I highly doubt.

I know there are some IMAX screens where they indeed zoom and crop. But so far, I've only heard 1.89:1 IMAX screens to do so and only with 2.39:1 content because the audience would keep complaining about black bars.

[ITDEFX101]

Deadpool 2. Optimized for Imax....letterboxed all the way. blah

Sound mix wasn't great.

I dunno.....is it me/my theater OR has every movie after Ready Player One sound mix been not has aggressive as RP1?

[GLaDOS]

Not surprised. Deadpool 2 looked like it was shot anamorphic all the way.

[Riddhi2011]

Saw Deadpool 2 today. Most shots I noticed, at least a lot of the action stuff, was captured on 35mm anamorphic. I could immediately see the fine layer of grain and softness at the edges that you get with 35mm anamorphic.
Oddly though, the end credits do not mention Kodak at all, only Alexa. I may have missed it as well.
Much better film, with a real emotional heart, than Deadpool 1, in my opinion.
Oh, and the last scene was just awesome!

[Geoff D]

I only found out the other day that David Leitch directed Deadpool 2, with Jon Sela as his DP, and them two cats LOVE anamorphic so it's no surprise that they went that way on Mr The Pool 2. They like using the Hawk "Vintage" 74's (new lenses made to be all wafty and ill-defined like shitty old glass from 40 years ago) but switched to a newer type of anamorphics for this film, the "class-X" from Hawk which are designed to provide dat anamorphic look which we know and love but with more resolution and contrast. I like their V-Lites also, as used on the Kingsman movies.

https://www.vantagefilm.com/vf/previ...ZFa3ltNGFsOD0=

[CelluloidPal]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I only found out the other day that David Leitch directed Deadpool 2, with Jon Sela as his DP, and them two cats LOVE anamorphic so it's no surprise that they went that way on Mr The Pool 2. They like using the Hawk "Vintage" 74's (new lenses made to be all wafty and ill-defined like shitty old glass from 40 years ago) but switched to a newer type of anamorphics for this film, the "class-X" from Hawk which are designed to provide dat anamorphic look which we know and love but with more resolution and contrast. I like their V-Lites also, as used on the Kingsman movies.

https://www.vantagefilm.com/vf/previ...ZFa3ltNGFsOD0=

Here's the thing about Hawks. The anamorphic element is in the back of the lens and because of that, it doesn't give you the usual elements that's associated with anamorphic lenses. You have to use Vantage's Blue Filter in order to get those popular lens flares but then again, I've seen movies shot on digital anamorphic that look way off. Deadpool 2 didn't look very much like it was shot anamorphically.