Large Format/"Premium" Theaters (IMAX 15/70, Digital IMAX, XD, ETX, RPX, etc.)

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by Mike0284

Not sure if it was mentioned but it look like only 30 minutes of No Time to Die was filmed with IMAX cameras.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_in_IMAX#2020

That’s very normal given the huge technical issues with those film cameras. I believe only the later Nolan films have far more native IMAX 15/70 footage. I believe The Dark Knight, Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, Catching Fire, and Batman v Superman are all in that range. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, The Force Awakens, and First Man actually have far less IMAX footage.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

I saw Tenet today in 4K Laser IMAX at AMC Rosedale in Roseville MN.

I am very mixed on the movie itself. This is the first Nolan movie I had trouble following and it definitely hurt my viewing experience. More details on that here.

Again, I wore a N95 mask the whole time and the people around also wore masks. I felt much more comfortable this time.

When I watched Ford v Ferrari in 2K IMAX (different venue) I noticed the picture seemed dark during the trailers, I turned around and saw only one projector on and went out to say something. About 10 minutes later the image got brighter and I turned around to see both projectors on. Well...

For Tenet, during the trailers I noticed the image seemed dark, I turned around and only saw one light source. I went out to say something and the person said, "4K IMAX is only one projector," I still persisted that the image looked dark. I went back into the theater and about 10 minutes later during the trailer for Black Widow the brightness went way up. Definitely glad I went out to say something. I have no problem paying for IMAX, but I am paying for an experience, so that experience definitely needs to be perfect.

I am still thinking of driving down to Indianapolis, I do feel like maybe I'm missing something with Tenet but I just can't put my finger on it, I don't think the answer is 70mm, but it might be.

I also wanted to check out the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum

Thanks for the review. With the issues I have had at Rosedale's Dolby Cinema screen (misaligned projectors, bright blue lights in the corner of the screen, now bright blue LED light strips on the sides of the auditorium that don't turn off during the movie and wash everything out) and the garbage experience you've described with the 4K Laser IMAX digital projection like missing front left and right channels for Star Wars and now only one projector playing at a time (it's a dual projector setup always, you ****ing morons ) I won't go there anymore.

You *may* get a better experience at Southdale in Eden Prairie, but I walked out of 1917 in Dolby because of the light strips so YMMV.

[Dreamliner330]

Has anyone here been in the IMAX theater at the Indiana State Museum? I'm thinking of driving out there and am wondering which seats are best. Usually I sit mid/close but I know some of these full IMAX rooms are old and have quirks.

I'm also trying to debate whether I should go or not. I've seen Tenet twice in 4K IMAX and I liked it better the second time but it's definitely one of Nolan's lesser movies.

Part of me wanting to go is just to see in in 15/70mm and I'm kind of wanting to go on a road-trip anyhow. It's about 600 miles from me which really isn't that far. If I leave on a full tank I only have to stop once for gas.

[Dreamliner330]

I went to the IMAX theater at the Indianapolis State Museum to see Tenet in 15/70mm IMAX. Tenet is one of Nolans weaker movies but since it was only playing in 70mm IMAX in two theaters in the whole country it made me want to go, plus I was kind of looking for some sort of mini-adventure. 70mm IMAX is truly impressive. I really wish more people knew how amazing it was.

I live in Minnesota so the drive was a bit less than 10 hours each way and about 1300 miles round trip (I did bump into a guy who flew in from Arizona to watch it, so I'm not too crazy).

I left Sunday morning around 6 am and was in the theater watching my first 70mm screening at 6 pm.

I stayed the night and watched it again at 11 am Monday, then spent a couple hours at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway (museum and a tour on/around the track).

I headed back late afternoon and was home around 1 am. I was awake the next morning to be at Best Buy to get my crispy fresh copy of Home Alone 4K.

The seats in this theater were pretty nice. The sheer size of full IMAX is impressive. To me, it looked about the same size as the screen at the Minnesota Zoo that permanently closed in 2018.

I first saw this movie at the Rosedale 4K Laser LIMAX. The contrast difference is noticeable but the size of the full IMAX screen and aspect ratio is unparalleled. I also thought the sound in the newly renovated Rosedale 4K Laser IMAX room was better. Movies like this always remind me why I bring earplugs (concert earplugs to retain fidelity).






...I kind of want to go back...

[puddy77]

Imax Partners With Leading Camera Makers to Open Up Its Large-Format Production to More Filmmakers (Exclusive)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be...kers-exclusive

Until now, to make a movie billed as "Filmed in Imax," filmmakers required either the Imax 65mm large-format film cameras (Christopher Nolan’s cameras of choice, which he's used on movies including Dunkirk and most recently Tenet) or the Alexa 65 Imax digital camera (created through a development partnership with ARRI, based on ARRI’s Alexa 65 large-format camera and available through ARRI rental houses; they were used to shoot Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame). But the majority of motion pictures that play in Imax theaters do not take this route; they are instead converted to the Imax format using Imax’s remastering process during postproduction. Colligan reports that Imax will select only a limited number of films to participate in the new program each year and will continue to offer its conversion services to remaster additional titles.

These new partnerships give cinematographers a much wider range of choices. They can use any of the digital cameras certified in the program, which are ARRI’s Alexa LF (large format) and Mini LF, Panavision’s Millennium DXL2, Red’s Ranger Monstro and Sony’s Venice cameras, as well as the aforementioned Alexa 65 Imax system. (The program is designed for digital cameras; celluloid fans continue to have the availability of Imax film cameras.)

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Imax Partners With Leading Camera Makers to Open Up Its Large-Format Production to More Filmmakers (Exclusive)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/be...kers-exclusive

So “filmed in IMAX” is going to just become pure marketing BS. I guess it was already going that way with the Alexa 65 stuff (a very high quality camera, but basically just a software update on an existing system used for non IMAX productions), and now seems like most frequently used cameras are going to be certified as long as the filmmakers strike a deal with IMAX.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

So “filmed in IMAX” is going to just become pure marketing BS. I guess it was already going that way with the Alexa 65 stuff (a very high quality camera, but basically just a software update on an existing system used for non IMAX productions), and now seems like most frequently used cameras are going to be certified as long as the filmmakers strike a deal with IMAX.

IMAX is like Disney - a very well known brand. Yes there is a bit of deception going on. Many think that "Filmed in IMAX" means IMAX 15/70 when it's IMAX Digital 1.90 AR. The cost to shoot in 15/70 is astronomical compared to Digital IMAX. People are willing to pay the upcharge to see movies at an IMAX theater. That upcharge can approach almost 100% in some cases. Very lucrative for both IMAX and the studio whose film is being shown.

IMO, where this new deal came from has to do with the Chinese film The Eight Hundred which was shot 100% with IMAX Digital cameras - the first film to do so. This has resulted in full occupancy at IMAX theaters while regular theaters do not enjoy such occupancy.

So other camera makers want in on the money being spent on camera rentals. Of course like all film productions, it's the lenses that make all the difference in the quality of the images, not the cameras themselves.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

So “filmed in IMAX” is going to just become pure marketing BS. I guess it was already going that way with the Alexa 65 stuff (a very high quality camera, but basically just a software update on an existing system used for non IMAX productions), and now seems like most frequently used cameras are going to be certified as long as the filmmakers strike a deal with IMAX.

What do you mean "it's going to become pure marketing BS"? It's been bullshit for years with all these "IMAX" embiggened versions that just open up the mattes on something shot on Alexa, RED, whatever. As for "filmed in IMAX": pfffft, as they'll slap an IMAX sticker on anything these days, like the Canon DSLRs they used to shoot A Beautiful Planet with.

"But they can't get those big 15/70 cameras into space!"

"Huh, that's weird, they managed it well enough for the Space Station documentary."

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What do you mean "it's going to become pure marketing BS"? It's been bullshit for years with all these "IMAX" embiggened versions that just open up the mattes on something shot on Alexa, RED, whatever. As for "filmed in IMAX": pfffft, as they'll slap an IMAX sticker on anything these days, like the Canon DSLRs they used to shoot A Beautiful Planet with.

"But they can't get those big 15/70 cameras into space!"

"Huh, that's weird, they managed it well enough for the Space Station documentary."

[Geoff D]

As opposed to modern day "IMAX", lol

[singhcr]

They put IMAX stickers on Canon DSLRs????? God how the mighty have fallen.

IMAX film cameras have gone to Mount Everest and the International Space Station. I think you can shoot a movie with them on location or on a set.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

I went to the IMAX theater at the Indianapolis State Museum to see Tenet in 15/70mm IMAX. Tenet is one of Nolans weaker movies but since it was only playing in 70mm IMAX in two theaters in the whole country it made me want to go, plus I was kind of looking for some sort of mini-adventure. 70mm IMAX is truly impressive. I really wish more people knew how amazing it was.

Thanks for the review! I'm glad you enjoyed the experience. Where did you sit? At the MN Zoo I sat in the back row if I could. If the screens are about the same size I assume that's still the best way to go?

Were it not COVID times, it would have been great to do some kind of MN Blu-ray.com 15/70 road trip! Perhaps in the future, if you are ever interested in such an idea.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Thanks for the review! I'm glad you enjoyed the experience. Where did you sit? At the MN Zoo I sat in the back row if I could. If the screens are about the same size I assume that's still the best way to go?

Were it not COVID times, it would have been great to do some kind of MN Blu-ray.com 15/70 road trip! Perhaps in the future, if you are ever interested in such an idea.

The first time I sat in seat F-16 but it felt on the edge of too close, the second time I was in H-16. The H-16 seat is kind of busted so I wandered around a bit and ended up a row or two further back...16 is the center seat.

Now is really the best time to go. There was almost nobody there, 6 people in the room during my showings. They have every other row blocked out and your seat selection blocks 2 seats on each side.

It's really not that far. I left on a full tank and made it to Indiana before I had to stop for gas (went through Chicago on the way there). On the way back I bypassed Chicago completely (highly recommended) and went through the middle of Illinois (78 & 39). I made it from Indianapolis to Madison on one tank no problem.

If I had to do it over, I'd probably spend 2 nights there. Definitely go to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and do the Kiss the Bricks Tour.

If you go now, you'll be able to see Tenet in 70mm IMAX.

[Amar1]

https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/imax-cinema

Science Museum IMAX in London re-opens in December with a new dual 4k IMAX laser projector, while still keeping it's 70mm IMAX projector. It is a traditional 1.43:1 aspect ratio IMAX screen.

Following a major revamp, our popular IMAX cinema returns this December.

Joining our much-loved IMAX 70mm film projector is a next-generation IMAX® with Laser 4K projector, giving you the rare opportunity to view the cult favourite format and the latest in immersive technology all on one giant screen – one of only two screens in Europe to feature the best of digital and analogue cinema.



This full refurbishment allows the museum to host newly released blockbusters, 3D educational films and cinema classic as well as an array of live events.



HOW IS IT DIFFERENT TO A NORMAL CINEMA EXPERIENCE? HOW HAS IT CHANGED?

The Science Museum’s IMAX cinema is now one of only two screens in Europe to feature the very best of both digital and analogue cinema on the same screen. A state-of-the-art next-generation IMAX with Laser projector is joining the Science Museum’s original IMAX 70mm film projector to offer two of the highest quality film formats.



The new cinema features modern seating to enjoy films and events in maximum comfort, while a new concessions area will complete the cinema-going experience with relaxed seating and refreshments bar.



WHAT IS IMAX WITH LASER?

IMAX with Laser is IMAX’s most advanced cinematic experience yet. It delivers increased resolution, crystal clear projection, sharper and brighter images, deeper contrasts as well as the widest range of colours available to filmmakers.



Combined with the introduction of IMAX’s incredible 12-channel precision sound system, it produces a thrillingly immersive 3D sound experience.



WHAT IS 70MM FILM/PROJECTION?

70mm film projection is one of the highest quality projection formats available. With an aspect ratio of 1.43:1, IMAX 70mm film offers viewers up to 40% more film image on screen than in standard cinemas, combining the largest, clearest images with specially created sound for a high-quality viewing experience.



A favourite among film makers and film buffs, the format was discussed by Director and Academy-Award winning Visual Effects Designer, Paul Franklin (Inception, Interstellar) on the Science Museum blog.


WILL YOU BE SHOWING FILMS IN 70MM?

Our educational films will all be shown in IMAX with Laser. We aren’t currently showing any titles in 70mm, however this is something we are reviewing for our blockbuster season depending on what becomes available.



WILL YOU BE SHOWING ANY BLOCKBUSTERS? HOW DO I FIND OUT?

Sign up to our mailing list if you would like to find out when we are next showing a blockbuster film.

[Amar1]

https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/abo...y-and-original



IMAX: The Ronson Theatre will be home to the best projection technology available allowing an even greater variety of IMAX films to be shown. With an aspect ratio of 1.43:1, the museum’s original IMAX 70mm film projector offers viewers up to 40% more film image on screen than in standard cinemas, combining the largest, clearest images with specially created sound for a high-quality viewing experience. A favourite among film makers and film buffs, the format was discussed by Director and Academy-Award® winning Visual Effects Designer, Paul Franklin (Inception, Interstellar) on the Science Museum blog.

Joining the Science Museum’s IMAX 70mm film projector will be the new IMAX Grand Theatre with Laser system featuring dual 4K laser projectors, providing film fans with a rare opportunity to view the cult favourite format and IMAX’s most advanced cinematic experience yet on one screen. The new IMAX with Laser delivers increased resolution, crystal clear projection, sharper and brighter images, deeper contrasts as well as the widest range of colours available to filmmakers, combined with the introduction of IMAX’s incredible 12-channel precision sound system to produce a thrillingly immersive 3D sound experience.

[Lee A Stewart]

40% huh

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

40% huh

They're not talking about 40% in terms of the physical real estate of the capture formats, just in terms of how much more you see vs a letterboxed 2.39 image on the same 1.44 screen. Their marketing has previously said that the 1.90 versions have "26% more", for example.

[Eric The Duke]

Anyone know if Wonder Woman 1984 will be shown at any 1.44 aspect ratio screens? Maybe a 1.44 print doesn't even exist?

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by Eric The Duke

Anyone know if Wonder Woman 1984 will be shown at any 1.44 aspect ratio screens? Maybe a 1.44 print doesn't even exist?

It’s definitely playing in some 1.44 sites, so if a 1.44 laser version is produced, it can play that way.

The “IMAX Behind the Frame” video clearly shows they planned on having 15/70 showings when they talk about the beauty of seeing an IMAX film print, but things may well have changed. Tenet ended up being in very few 15/70 locations, and WB may have felt burned having actually created more IMAX prints (which cost tens of thousands each) for locations that ended up never playing the film.

[Lee A Stewart]

The cost for a 2 hour 15/70 IMAX print is about $100,000. Both Tenet and WW1984 run 2 hours and 30+ minutes so the cost is even higher.