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[antovolk]

Originally Posted by Spike M.

They don't have a 1.43 solution either, Geoff. I made a fuss about it on Facebook and talked with whoever's running their account, and for now they're sticking with 1.9.

****, seriously? Eileen (their CMO) mentioned in a tweet last week iirc that 1.43 is possible on this - but I'd assume as per the ASC link posted by Geoff it'll be a crop down from the 2.1:1 native sensor. In fact that's sort of what I was intending to ask the Russos - were they considering composing CW for 1.43 & what were they thinking for IW.

So yeah, at this rate looks like we aren't gonna get an entirely shot in IMAX feature film that's presented in full height 1.43 unless Nolan ups the bar post-Dunkirk. Because apart from the increased resolution & origination benefits of using the Alexa 65, that's almost identical to any 1.85 films that get IMAX or "formatted for IMAX" stuff. To the average viewer, seeing CW on a - what they call now - "giant IMAX" screen is the same as seeing GOTG, and IW is the same as seeing Avengers, hell I wonder if the regular release of the IWs will be 1.85 or they go the Avatar route of having 1.85 for 3D and 2.40 for 2D.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by 42041

I think the Alexa 65 would be quite IMAX-worthy, if its 6560x3100 resolution was preserved through post. That may not be quite an IMAX negative but it may very well be an IMAX print (albeit matted vertically - though I'm sure the IMAX folks could get the right anamorphic glass made).

Yep, an anamorphic attachment for the camera would make use of the full sensor and really make sure that they're capturing something approaching IMAX res (seeing as VFX for IMAX is often done at 5.6K then filmed out to 65mm), even if it was downsampled to 'just' 4K after that. But given what the ASC said I don't think we'll get anything like that in-camera.

If the 4K laser projectors are going to do 1.43 then they'll definitely need those reverse anamorphic lenses, but the glass for those will be completely different than what's needed for the actual cameras, natch.

It'd be a shame if the 1.43 aspect died off as it's an immense experience, but given the shape of the sensor in the Alexa 65 they'd be better off sticking with 1.90 purely from a quality perspective. These days most new IMAX auditoriums seem to come with a 1.90-ish screen anyway, unfortunately.

[antovolk]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If the 4K laser projectors are going to do 1.43 then they'll definitely need those reverse anamorphic lenses, but the glass for those will be completely different than what's needed for the actual cameras, natch.

Most of the laser projector theatres are 1.43 actually so yeah I assume that's what they are doing to achieve it. I think the only 1.9 ones are the TCL Chinese in LA, the two UK ones (Empire London and Cineworld Sheffield) & one in Berlin. Rest are 1.43.

Anyway, booked tickets to see Civil War midnight on Thurs night/Fri AM at the Empire IMAX.......

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Most of the laser projector theatres are 1.43 actually so yeah I assume that's what they are doing to achieve it. I think the only 1.9 ones are the TCL Chinese in LA, the two UK ones (Empire London and Cineworld Sheffield) & one in Berlin. Rest are 1.43.

Anyway, booked tickets to see Civil War midnight on Thurs night/Fri AM at the Empire IMAX.......

Yeah, but they're 1.43 because of legacy screen installs, not because they really want them to be. Anyhoo, be sure to let us know what CW is like in laser!

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Most of the laser projector theatres are 1.43 actually so yeah I assume that's what they are doing to achieve it. I think the only 1.9 ones are the TCL Chinese in LA, the two UK ones (Empire London and Cineworld Sheffield) & one in Berlin. Rest are 1.43.

Anyway, booked tickets to see Civil War midnight on Thurs night/Fri AM at the Empire IMAX.......

Nice, I have tickets for X-plus Saturday on my birthday, let us know if the AR changes

[antovolk]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, but they're 1.43 because of legacy screen installs, not because they really want them to be. Anyhoo, be sure to let us know what CW is like in laser!

Yeah, all new builds are 1.9. Real shame they're doing away with 1.43 it seems. A massive 1.9 screen like the Empire is still good but, again, for full 1.43 IMAX stuff there's nothing better and more thrilling for me than a screen like the BFIs.

And will do. Expecting it to be similar to TFA. And yes @dvdmike several (legacy 1.43 w. laser actually) theatres have already confirmed AR does change to 1.9 for that one IMAX sequence. A couple people I know saw it at the Empire IMAX too at the press screening a week ago, they confirmed the same, goes full screen there.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Yeah, all new builds are 1.9. Real shame they're doing away with 1.43 it seems. A massive 1.9 screen like the Empire is still good but, again, for full 1.43 IMAX stuff there's nothing better and more thrilling for me than a screen like the BFIs.

And will do. Expecting it to be similar to TFA. And yes @dvdmike several (legacy 1.43 w. laser actually) theatres have already confirmed AR does change to 1.9 for that one IMAX sequence. A couple people I know saw it at the Empire IMAX too at the press screening a week ago, they confirmed the same, goes full screen there.

Cool thanks, hope the 3d blu has the switch like guardians

[antovolk]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Cool thanks, hope the 3d blu has the switch like guardians

I hope the 2D one does as well! It's not just one small sequence like TFA, it's 17 minutes.

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by antovolk

I hope the 2D one does as well! It's not just one small sequence like TFA, it's 17 minutes.

Yes, plus unlike Guardians, this film is being released in both 2D and 3D IMAX. So it would make sense for both home versions to follow IMAX (whereas the IMAX ratio in Guardians was specifically developed with 3D viewing in mind).

[Eric The Duke]

This is starting to remind me of the time when Star Trek into darkness came out and the sequences shot in IMAX were not 1.4 AR. They were something like 1.6.

[The Debts]

Originally Posted by Eric The Duke

This is starting to remind me of the time when Star Trek into darkness came out and the sequences shot in IMAX were not 1.4 AR. They were something like 1.6.

If I remember correctly, they were framed that way to make more room for the VFX's artists to do their work.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by The Debts

If I remember correctly, they were framed that way to make more room for the VFX's artists to do their work.

I actually read how it was to make the ratio shifts less "jarring", according to the cinematographer.

[The Debts]

Originally Posted by Poya

I actually read how it was to make the ratio shifts less "jarring", according to the cinematographer.

Maybe both?

[dvdmike]

Prince Charles cinema in the UK are showing Aliens this summer in 70mm blow up

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by The Debts

If I remember correctly, they were framed that way to make more room for the VFX's artists to do their work.

Technically 1.66 is less room than 1.43, which was part of the consideration seeing as producing two distinct sets of 5.6K VFX for stereo 1.43 could've pushed the lead time for the VFX beyond what they had available.

But Poya is also correct: in the ASC article one of the camera assistants says that they went with the smaller 1.66 ratio in an effort to bridge the gap between that and the 2.40 format to make the experience as seamless as possible. That also extends to the mandate that exteriors be IMAX while interiors be in 'scope, it lends a certain rhythm to the aspect ratio changes which I greatly appreciate, unlike Nolan's more random approach.

[antovolk]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

Yes, plus unlike Guardians, this film is being released in both 2D and 3D IMAX. So it would make sense for both home versions to follow IMAX (whereas the IMAX ratio in Guardians was specifically developed with 3D viewing in mind).

Really? Are there gonna be 2D IMAX showings too then? Or is that like BvS in select US locations (aside from 70mm)?

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Really? Are there gonna be 2D IMAX showings too then? Or is that like BvS in select US locations (aside from 70mm)?

It looks similar to how the non 70MM locations handled BvS. Going by Fandango, it seems as about half of its IMAX locations are doing 2D showings- usually split with one or two IMAX 2D showings daily.

[antovolk]

Originally Posted by xbs2034

It looks similar to how the non 70MM locations handled BvS. Going by Fandango, it seems as about half of its IMAX locations are doing 2D showings- usually split with one or two IMAX 2D showings daily.

Damn. And I thought Disney are the ones usually pushing the '3D IMAX only' mantra.....

Still, overseas, 3D only unfortunately

[antovolk]

Civil War IMAX laser - great. 3D added absolutely nothing, hell I even noticed several unconverted 2D shots in there haha

As for IMAX sequence - it's cool but not really much more than that. Having the extra height for a particular part of that sequence definitely helps and makes me think about what it'd have looked like in 1.43.....

[The Debts]

Originally Posted by antovolk

Really? Are there gonna be 2D IMAX showings too then? Or is that like BvS in select US locations (aside from 70mm)?

The Lie-MAX at Cinemagic in Saco is playing a 2D showing at noon (a bulk of the screenings are in 3D, however).