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Old 01-14-2009, 09:47 PM   #221
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Fullscreen is only good when the film is being shot at the 1.7-something:1 ratio, like the IMAX scenes in TDK. I love it when a movie fills the screen, but I won't sacrifice the sides just to have it that way.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:47 PM   #222
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The only good "full screen movie" is one that was filmed that way.
"Pan & Scan" should be illegal IMO
I don't think I can agree more!
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:49 PM   #223
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I got a 46 inch and I prefer Full screen as well even though I know that Wide Screen displays everything, it just makes everything look better and bigger IMO, you get more out of your screen. Now if I had a 60+ inch TV I probably wouldn't care as much. As long as the picture doesn't look stretched who cares if you're missing a bit on the side.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:56 PM   #224
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"Pan & Scan" should be illegal IMO
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:16 PM   #225
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yes, the black bars are your friend. what does it matter if you watch a movie in the dark, you won't see them anyway!!

i loved working @ best buy when customers would say "why are those black bars on the screen?? they are stupid. why would i pay for a 36" tv and not use the whole screen??" i'd then tell them that they were seeing the whole movie and it wouldn't take up the whole screen, i'd have a display set up on a tv showing widescreen vs. full screen and then ask them what they thought. no one ever had anything to say.

it was great.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:17 PM   #226
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yes, the black bars are your friend. what does it matter if you watch a movie in the dark, you won't see them anyway!!
On an OLED, yes. But on LCD or plasma... the black bars are obvious.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:22 PM   #227
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look for the aspect ratio of the release-- if it says 1:85 aspect ratio you
won't see black bars, if it says 2:35 aspect ratio you will have bars.

I'm happy either way-- I want the full (not to be confused with full screen)
picture but some movies are shot wider than others. A lot of great films are shot 2:35 so beware-- Star Wars series, Indiana Jones, most of the James
Bond films, etc etc

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Old 01-14-2009, 10:23 PM   #228
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...and you call yourself a BD master
have to admit that's pretty amusing!
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:24 PM   #229
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I hate those black bars they make me sick.
Thats pretty pathetic really. Black bars allow us to see various films in the intended aspect ratio.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:26 PM   #230
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On an OLED, yes. But on LCD or plasma... the black bars are obvious.
i've been watching dvd's for so long, i don't even notice them anymore. it's become a way of life when watching movies. i didn't even notice the apect ratio change in The Dark Knight.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:27 PM   #231
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oh boy here we go again....

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Old 01-14-2009, 10:28 PM   #232
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Love the black bars!! They are there for a reason, you are getting the correct aspect ratio that was intended by the director. A Full Screen picture is cropped to fill the screen and you are missing out on picture that you would see if the black bars were present and the picture was presented in its intended aspect ratio.

Everytime a new thread comes up like this you have to laugh...
This is not entirely true.

It has been found that the Full Screen release of Christmas Vacation shows some detail in the bottom middle which is now missing in the Widescreen blu-ray/DVD version.


Other titles may also have missing detail that is only available on Full screen releases.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:31 PM   #233
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To answer the OP's question, i just watched Get Smart and that is full screen - just as the OP likes...
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:34 PM   #234
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Other titles may also have missing detail that is only available on Full screen releases.
Like microphones?
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:49 PM   #235
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I smell a troll.

1. comes in and makes aggressive stament
2. comes back a post or so later and makes a veeeeeerrrrrry "flame me" type one line post.
3. Doesn't come back to the thread


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:55 PM   #236
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I had to make a similar list for my dad. He hates black bars and thinks that if a movie has them then it's not HD. It's hard to get him to understand somethings. Anyways, I didn't see any of these listed that I have:

Jingle All The Way
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:58 PM   #237
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I smell a troll.

1. comes in and makes aggressive stament
2. comes back a post or so later and makes a veeeeeerrrrrry "flame me" type one line post.
3. Doesn't come back to the thread


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I think you're on to something...
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:05 PM   #238
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Fullscreen is only good when the film is being shot at the 1.7-something:1 ratio, like the IMAX scenes in TDK. I love it when a movie fills the screen, but I won't sacrifice the sides just to have it that way.
Actually, IMAX has an aspect ratio much closer to 1.33:1. For TDK, a LOT of picture was cropped from the top/bottom to get it to fit the 1.78:1 screen.

However, if they had maintained the IMAX aspect ratio, there would have been huge pillarboxing for those scenes and it would have looked absurd, cutting back and forth from heavy letterboxing to heavy pillarboxing.

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This is not entirely true.

It has been found that the Full Screen release of Christmas Vacation shows some detail in the bottom middle which is now missing in the Widescreen blu-ray/DVD version.


Other titles may also have missing detail that is only available on Full screen releases.
Some times fullscreen releases skirt the director's intent and open the matte to show a 1.33:1 picture without relying on ugly "panning".

That doesn't make it better though. You're seeing things the director had no intention of you seeing.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:06 PM   #239
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Horizontal bars (top & bottom) =

Vertical bars (sides) =

Just my preference, but all in all, as stated before, it's all about the aspect ratios intended by the movie makers. The Dark Knight BD probably drives some unaware viewers batty as it switches from 1.78:1 to 2.40:1.

Although I've come to like widescreen formats so much over 4:3 "full screen," I still prefer not to "stretch" the 4:3 aspect ratio to the sides of the screen, effectively distorting everything horizontally.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:18 PM   #240
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I'm always amazed at anyone surprised to see black bars on widescreen displays. They somehow think that having a widescreen display means no more black bars, and I have to give them a simple lesson in geometry (and the fact that films come in many different aspect ratios).

Some people still can't get over the thought that they're 'missing' part of the picture. This feeling was much more prevalent in the early days of widescreen DVDs being displayed on 4:3 sets, where the dreaded black bars were REALLY prominent, especially on 2.35:1 films. Here's something I used to do to convince these people that 'full screen' (or pan & scan) images actually show LESS picture information:

1. Look at a dollar bill (any US paper currency will do, actually) and imagine that it's an image from a widescreen film. (Turns out that the shape of a dollar bill is almost identical to a 2.35:1 film.)

2. Now fold the bill a little more than 2.5 inches from one end, leaving a 3.5-inch piece. That's what you would see on your 4:3 display if it filled the entire screen, but obviously there's a LOT of missing information, and the end result is not very desirable. Of course you'd have to fold it a little less to illustrate how much would be shown on a 16x9 display, but people get the point.
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