List of Fullscreen 16:9 1.66-1.85 Blu-rays

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by simplepinoi177

Well, I've seen 1.85:1 movies and they're not SO bad. That's why at first I wasn't thinking of including them, but it is close enough and isn't as bad as 2.4:1 movies. But for my own personal preference, I think bars on the side versus relatively small bars on the top and bottom is not enough to be called "fullscreen." Then again, I really have never watched a movie that was in 1.66:1 so I can't say for sure, but I'm thinking bars on the side might be as bad as 2.4:1.

Again, any mod, please change my thread name to "List of Fullscreen 16:9 1.78-1.85:1 Blu-rays". Thank you.

1.66:1 movies take up almost the whole screen too - though not as much as 1.85:1.

This is what I worked it out as - though I could be wrong:
2.39:1 is 74.38% of screen
2.35:1 is 75.65% of screen
1.66:1 is 93.375% of screen
1.85:1 is 96.095% of screen
1.78:1 is 100% of screen

So 1.66:1 takes quite close to the amount of screen space that 1.85:1 movies take up so surely 1.66:1 movies could be included too?

[simplepinoi177]

Originally Posted by 4K2K

1.66:1 movies take up almost the whole screen too - though not as much as 1.85:1.

This is what I worked it out as - though I could be wrong:
2.39:1 is 74.38% of screen
2.35:1 is 75.65% of screen
1.66:1 is 93.375% of screen
1.85:1 is 96.095% of screen
1.78:1 is 100% of screen

So 1.66:1 takes quite close to the amount of screen space that 1.85:1 movies take up so surely 1.66:1 movies could be included too?

Thanks for that info! It reinforces my belief that 1.66:1 is close to fullscreen. I have never seen a movie in this aspect ratio so I really couldn't be too sure. From what I heard and from what little I could research, I thought that it had black bars on the sides. Thank you for clarifying. In any case, no mods changed the title anyways...

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by simplepinoi177

Thanks for that info! It reinforces my belief that 1.66:1 is close to fullscreen. I have never seen a movie in this aspect ratio so I really couldn't be too sure. From what I heard and from what little I could research, I thought that it had black bars on the sides. Thank you for clarifying. In any case, no mods changed the title anyways...

They do have small black bars on the sides (just like films on Blu-ray that are actually presented at 1.85:1 and not cropped to 1.78:1 have small black bars on the top and bottom - assuming your TV shows all pixels and doesn't overscan). But they take up a lot lower percentage of the screen than the black bars that are on the top and bottom of 2.35:1 and 2.39:1 films.

Some of the James Bond Blu-rays are in 1.66:1 aspect ratio, like Dr. No (even though, according to imdb.com, their intended aspect ratio in American cinemas was 1.85:1).

[Sheytan]

You guys like to watch movies with butchered OAR

Movies is art i want to watch them as it was intended


4:3


1.77.1 (16:9 widescreen TV format)


1.85:1


2.2.1


2.35.1


2.66.1


2.76.1

[Blu-Buddha]

Originally Posted by baccusboy

My gf told me that the reason many Sony movies are releasing in Asia the same day as in the West (effectively allowing us to see them sooner here in Asia) is because many Sony movies are shot digitally. By doing this, they remove the middle-man of having to make film copies for each theater. They can quickly and easily get the movie into multiple theaters. She says this is giving Sony an edge over here, and is influencing the local Asian movie-makers to shoot on digital film. Having the movie on a digital theater format allows theaters to add more screens quickly, if the movie is a hit. In "opening day" fights between local movies and Hollywood movies, this is a big advantage, and can decide which film gets more screens and more money-making potential.... so Asian studios are starting to go with digital film, instead of the traditional route.

I thought I heard somewhere that this also makes transfer to BR much easier, cleaner, and it can also be made to fill up the screen more easily because it's shot that way sometimes.

I'm no film expert, but she was telling me all about what she'd heard on the news... this is what I remember.

Bollocks.

There's so much mis-information in that post I wouldn't know where to start.

[Blu-Buddha]

Originally Posted by 4K2K

They do have small black bars on the sides (just like films on Blu-ray that are actually presented at 1.85:1 and not cropped to 1.78:1 have small black bars on the top and bottom - assuming your TV shows all pixels and doesn't overscan). But they take up a lot lower percentage of the screen than the black bars that are on the top and bottom of 2.35:1 and 2.39:1 films.

Some of the James Bond Blu-rays are in 1.66:1 aspect ratio, like Dr. No (even though, according to imdb.com, their intended aspect ratio in American cinemas was 1.85:1).

The majority of American cinemas are only set up for two ratios: 1.85:1 (Flat) and 2.35:1/2.39:1 (Scope) and Dr. No, etc. is shot with the more narrow 1.85:1 in mind. Hence the intended U.S. ratio is listed.

Art house and specialty venues are often capable of showing 1.66:1 and 1.33:1 as well. (Either by using four separate lenses w/ side masking or just two lenses -flat/scope- w/ variable top/bottom/side masking.)

I set up a specialty venue a few years ago that had a proscenium width of 40' and a maximum height of 25' (the top of the arch was curved). They showed everything from modern Scope films to the old silents (1.37:1). I used just two lenses. Scope is 17'hx40'w, 1.85:1 is 16'hx30'w, 1.66:1 is 18'hx30'w and 1.33:1 is 22.5'hx30'w. That 1.33 ratio looks just awesome and seeing the silent Phantom of the Opera with the pipe organ playing is overwhelming.

Most specialty venues have just side masking so they use 4 lenses so the height is always the same. Needless to say, the 1.33:1 image in those theaters is underwhelming.

[meloveHD]

Originally Posted by Alan A

I agree, this is just plain silly and shows how dim people can really be.

Some people (like myself and several other people on this thread) use this list because we are breaking in our new plasmas and want to be able to watch a movie without bars during the break-in procedure. So use your brain before you make a jerk comment like that. You fail.

[meloveHD]

Zack and Miri Make a Porno, Cloverfield, and Quarantine can be added to this list

[nabster]

I for one applaud this thread, call me dim but its down to personal preference full screen for me is more enjoyable than the black bars.

So i thankyou

[simplepinoi177]

Originally Posted by meloveHD

Some people (like myself and several other people on this thread) use this list because we are breaking in our new plasmas and want to be able to watch a movie without bars during the break-in procedure. So use your brain before you make a jerk comment like that. You fail.

Originally Posted by nabster

I for one applaud this thread, call me dim but its down to personal preference full screen for me is more enjoyable than the black bars.

So i thankyou

Here here! I just want to say you're welcome and thank you guys for your support. This is all made for those like you and by those like you. I am just trying to share what we all collectively prefer/appreciate so we can all take advantage.

Originally Posted by meloveHD

Zack and Miri Make a Porno, Cloverfield, and Quarantine can be added to this list

Thanks for the contribution! It is appreciated!

[djluis2k6]

I think directors decide to put black bars on a movie just to add more to the movies themselves. Think about it, before big screen TV's were almost standard in every home, they used the small black bars that are now hidden on a wide screen TV. But now because of that, they still want the black bars on the screen, so they just make them bigger. Honestly, you can't give me 1 good reason for the black bars. Occasionally I can see it being a benefit, for instance with a wide screen TV, but it's almost like they're forcing the black bars on the movies for 'looks' and that's ridiculous, especially on an animation movie.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

I think directors decide to put black bars on a movie just to add more to the movies themselves. Think about it, before big screen TV's were almost standard in every home, they used the small black bars that are now hidden on a wide screen TV. But now because of that, they still want the black bars on the screen, so they just make them bigger. Honestly, you can't give me 1 good reason for the black bars. Occasionally I can see it being a benefit, for instance with a wide screen TV, but it's almost like they're forcing the black bars on the movies for 'looks' and that's ridiculous, especially on an animation movie.

ai yai yai, sooooooooooooooooo much wrong with this post I'm not even going there.

[djluis2k6]

Originally Posted by Sheytan

You guys like to watch movies with butchered OAR

Movies is art i want to watch them as it was intended


4:3


1.77.1 (16:9 widescreen TV format)


1.85:1


2.2.1


2.35.1


2.66.1


2.76.1

1.85:1 is more than enough, anything extra is never going to be that important that they can't just zoom out and show. Seriously, I would prefer to see my 46" screen filled instead of just 50% of it being used because the director wants you to see their movie like that.

[Valkyr47]

thats interesting, i actually dont mind the letterboxing above and below the image on my movies now that i have a big widescreen tv

before when i used to watch all my dvds on a 27" 4:3 crt, movies using the 2.35:1 ratio were hard to see from across the room

of course i got over it because watching a movie in its original aspect ratio is the only true way to enjoy a movie, that being said...

i totally dont mind them now i have a 46" widescreen, because the viewable area is so much bigger

just my 2 cents

[Teabaggins]

you can add Hellraiser

[jcorwin]

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

1.85:1 is more than enough, anything extra is never going to be that important that they can't just zoom out and show. Seriously, I would prefer to see my 46" screen filled instead of just 50% of it being used because the director wants you to see their movie like that.

...you just don't get it.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

I think directors decide to put black bars on a movie just to add more to the movies themselves. Think about it, before big screen TV's were almost standard in every home, they used the small black bars that are now hidden on a wide screen TV. But now because of that, they still want the black bars on the screen, so they just make them bigger. Honestly, you can't give me 1 good reason for the black bars. Occasionally I can see it being a benefit, for instance with a wide screen TV, but it's almost like they're forcing the black bars on the movies for 'looks' and that's ridiculous, especially on an animation movie.

Christ, I hope that's a comedy post. Talk about ill-informed.

[Flanger-Hanger]

Wtf, Barz On My Tv That Don't Have The Booze!? Whut A Gip!!!! Speilzberg Iz Gay For Putting Them In Their!!

[mozen_1ne]

it's not out yet but saturday night fever will be in 1.85:1

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=478

[simplepinoi177]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

you can add Hellraiser

Originally Posted by mozen_1ne

it's not out yet but saturday night fever will be in 1.85:1

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=478

Thanks you guys! I'll be sure to add them unto the list... But I have to hold a reservation for SNF mozen_1ne, cuz my list is compiled off of user witnessed movies and not simply ones that are read off of a movie detail. There are lists out there already that do that...if you or anybody buys/rents it and actually sees it fill up the screen, then i'll be sure to put it up there!

On a side note, although I try not to get into the debate about black bars or not in my thread, I have to say: I understand the need for OAR/black bars because it shows the whole frame. I especially understand this on old CRT or square shaped TVs. But, as what I think djluis2k6 was meaning, is that if we already have a properly widescreen display, isn't that supposed to take out the need for those black bars? Isn't the black bars there to properly display a 16x9 frame? So wouldn't those black bars not be needed with a proper 16x9 TV? I'm not claiming to know any better or anything, this is just the thought that strikes me.

In any case, thanks for the contributions to the thread and keep 'em coming!